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bagelman
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« on: December 02, 2020, 02:05:00 AM »

huh I thought "Elliot Page" was this new actor, possibly with a family relation to Ellen.
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2020, 04:55:51 AM »

It's great to see more positive representation for my community, although can news outlets please stop referring to him using his deadname in the literal headlines? Like, I get it makes it a little less confusing, but it doesn't make it right.

huh I thought "Elliot Page" was this new actor, possibly with a family relation to Ellen.

Unlike actress Ruby Rose, who I know identifies as genderfluid and who at least publicly contemplated the possibility that she might undergo transition to male at some point in the future, yesterday's news about Elliot Page came as a bit of a surprise to me. (Case in point: If you go to Elliot Page's own newly renamed Instagram account you'll still find a posting from November 2 there, advertising an Instagram live event with "real life superheroes Ellen Page and Edafe Okporo".)

Insofar I find it totally okay, even necessary, to make some sort of reference to his deadname in news articles because that's the name he had made movies und TV shows under for the past 20 years. Otherwise people will certainly start to ask "huh, who is this??? what the hell is going on?". One could debate whether this reference should be made right in the headline or at some point in the article (I saw one news article in Germany which tried to somehow circumvent the issue by using the headline "Hollywood star Page comes out as transgender", omitting any first name). And obviously, it would weird, even inappropriate, if media news outlets still refer to him as "Elliot Page, the actor formerly known as Ellen Page" six months from now. The reference is only necessary as long as the fact that a gender/name change happened constitutes actual "news" in itself.

Anyway, I wish him well and all the best. Certainly also some form of milestone for the trans community to have a representative of such prominence in public life now.

especially for FtM who are far less represented in popular culture.
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bagelman
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2020, 09:36:53 PM »

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... he said "latinx"...

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I still love him. Nobody's perfect. The rest of the tweet is awesome.

I think it's forgivable to use "Latinx" in a specifically trans context, since the term is somewhat popular in that community. Although since he was specifically talking about women, it seems "Latina" would have sufficed.

And yeah, otherwise great statement. I love how he stuck it to the transphobes.

I imagine people who are "trendy" enough to be among Hollywood people use the word latinx even in reference to themselves. Not to mention the ultra odd non-binary/gender nonconforming/attack helicopter crowd.
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