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[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

In the Christian Workers' Party primaries between me and Scott, a fairly obvious denominational cleavage happens. In addition to that (and partly caused by that) there is a racial cleavage too, as Scott does well among Black voters and I do well among Hispanic voters. In the end I prevail by narrowly carrying the big Southwestern prizes.

[John Dule]

A completely batshit realignment occurs, in which the AOC wing of the Democratic Party and the Evangelical wing of the Republican Party join forces to nominate Battista Minola. In the face of this sudden emergence of a Christian Socialist movement, the remaining #SECULAR HEROES and economically moderate voters join forces behind the obvious candidate: John Dule.

This election puts America to a major test: Who do we hate more, atheists or socialists? It's honestly hard to decide. Ultimately, the nation elects Minola by a slim electoral vote margin, but not before a number of states drastically shift and realign themselves along this new partisan axis. California proves decisive, voting for Minola by an extremely slim margin, and suddenly becoming a swing state as the left alienates non-religious and suburban voters alike. Dule, meanwhile, manages to win a number of states with growing suburban populations, including Texas, Virginia, Colorado, and Arizona. His legacy is a massive improvement for the Right in the cities, and a simultaneous collapse in rural areas.

[Mr. Smith]

A completely batsh[inks] realignment occurs, in which the AOC wing of the Democratic Party and the Evangelical wing of the Republican Party join forces to nominate L.D. Smith. In the face of this sudden emergence of a Christian Socialist movement, the remaining #SECULAR HEROES and economically moderate voters join forces behind the obvious candidate: John Dule.

This election puts America to a major test: Who do we hate more, atheists or socialists? It's honestly hard to decide. Ultimately, the nation elects Dule by a slim electoral vote margin, but not before a number of states drastically shift and realign themselves along this new partisan axis. New York proves decisive, voting for Dule by an extremely slim margin thanks to insane backlash in the Upstate area towards Mr. Smith.

Ultimately the battle becomes a hodge-podge of The Deep South, Midwest, and Mormon Belt against the Seaboard and Plains States.

[Goldwater]

A completely batsh[inks] realignment occurs, in which the AOC wing of the Democratic Party and the Evangelical wing of the Republican Party join forces to nominate L.D. Smith. In the face of this sudden emergence of a Christian Socialist movement, the remaining #SECULAR HEROES and economically moderate voters join forces behind the obvious candidate: Goldwater.

This election puts America to a major test: Who do we hate more, atheists or socialists? It's honestly hard to decide. Ultimately, the nation elects L.D. Smith by a slim electoral vote margin, but not before a number of states drastically shift and realign themselves along this new partisan axis. New York proves decisive, voting for Smith by an slim margin thanks to controversial Goldwater made about not being willing to live anywhere north of NYC because "it's too dann cold up there".

[Chips]

I run as a moderate Democrat while Goldwater runs as a libertarian-Republican.

It's either a narrow Chips win:



Or a narrow Goldwater win with more of a traditional before-Trump GOP victory map.



I do believe I could keep Ohio close and win MI and PA in any event but I could also see myself having trouble winning states like CO, VA and NH as a Democrat especially with Goldwater as the GOP nominee.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Chips and TimTurner, both moderates, face off in a Dem primary with only two candidates of significance. Chips becomes the anti-establishment candidate in name only, and TimTurner becomes the establishment candidate in name only. TimTurner's personal opinions on abortion costs him CT, NJ, and most of the Western US. However, TimTurner's pro-union stances wins him union endorsements, and he also wins support from key Democratic constituencies due to his support for priorities like raising the federal top rate of taxation, as well as his opponent being far from a perfect fit for the party as a whole either. Both candidates win their home states. TimTurner is a moderate well-suited to the South, and Chips is a moderate well-suited to the Midwest; both win most of the states in those regions. The race is a nail-biter from start to finish, with Tim's lead in the Northeast being matched by Chips' leads in the West. Tim manages to nab a narrow win due to his margins in the South.
(apologies if I'm selling you short, Chips. I just don't know much about you and made the assumption that more of your views would be seen as "heretical" by the Dem base)

[Chips]

Chips and TimTurner, both moderates, face off in a Dem primary with only two candidates of significance. Chips becomes the anti-establishment candidate in name only, and TimTurner becomes the establishment candidate in name only. TimTurner's personal opinions on abortion costs him CT, NJ, and most of the Western US. However, TimTurner's pro-union stances wins him union endorsements, and he also wins support from key Democratic constituencies due to his support for priorities like raising the federal top rate of taxation, as well as his opponent being far from a perfect fit for the party as a whole either. Both candidates win their home states. TimTurner is a moderate well-suited to the South, and Chips is a moderate well-suited to the Midwest; both win most of the states in those regions. The race is a nail-biter from start to finish, with Tim's lead in the Northeast being matched by Chips' leads in the West. Tim manages to nab a narrow win due to his margins in the South.
(apologies if I'm selling you short, Chips. I just don't know much about you and made the assumption that more of your views would be seen as "heretical" by the Dem base)

No offense taken. Now I'll do maps under the assumption you run as a Democrat and I run as Republican.

TIMTURNER WINS:



CHIPS WINS



To all future posters, Run me as the opposite party of you.

[John Dule]

In this partisan realignment, the Republican Party has swung back to Bush-era "compassionate conservatism" and nominated Chips, a disillusioned Trumpist who is generally center-right on social and economic issues. The Democrats, meanwhile, complete their transition into a Libertarian party, becoming the Liberal Democrats and nominating John Dule.

Unlike the Dule vs Minola election, this one is a blowout. From the beginning, Dule's message of laissez-faire economics doesn't play well among the old Democratic base, and his extremism on social issues alienates the moderate wings of the party as well. Chips, meanwhile, runs a well-oiled campaign that paints itself as stable, reliable, and more in line with the American political tradition. In the final weeks, Dule makes up some ground among women voters by pushing hard left on abortion, and also makes some gains in the mountain west by publicly supporting fracking and defending the second amendment.

On election night, Chips blows through the ancestral "blue wall" states, winning Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Minnesota easily, and cracking 60% in Iowa. Illinois flips to the Republicans due to the candidacy of an activist left-wing candidate who is dissatisfied with both major party nominees, thus splitting the liberal vote. Dule holds on to most of the Democratic states in the West, performing well in the Pacific Northwest and even Montana, North Dakota, and Alaska. He also performs well among Cuban voters. However, he is demolished in both the popular vote and the electoral college as Chips wins New York for the Republicans for the first time in a generation.

[NewYorkExpress]

NewYorkExpress/S019 54%
John Dule/Justin Amash 44%

[Dr. MB]

Not a close race. NYExpress's weird statements about "rounding up registered Republicans and disappearing them", wanting to ban NASCAR and take Law+Order off the air, literally wanting to remove Christmas as a federal holiday, wanting NYTimes to fire white staff, wanting to ban white males from voting, and his total lack of a sense of humor make him nonviable with pretty much everyone besides maybe the Nation of Islam and some extremely woke activists.

[MR DARK BRANDON]

I assume it would be a primary, soooooo something like this IG if I did well? Idk. I’m blue you’re green

[LAKISYLVANIA]

i'm sorry, but while you're more popular on the forum, i likely would win

2 scenario's:

D Primary



if i run as a republican



The only states swinging D are: Utah (heavily), Georgia (narrowly) and Virginia. Perhaps Maryland and Hawaii. But the campaign would be vital, as I would probably coalesce independents, students, social conservatives, Trumpists, and make major inroads with hispanics and satisfy the Religious Right enough. I would have not to alienate evangelicals which won't happen.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

I assume it would be a primary, soooooo something like this IG if I did well? Idk. I’m blue you’re green

i would have an easy time describing you as an elitist latte liberal, therefore flipping a lot of states. Utah might go third party.

[MR DARK BRANDON]

I assume it would be a primary, soooooo something like this IG if I did well? Idk. I’m blue you’re green

i would have an easy time describing you as an elitist latte liberal, therefore flipping a lot of states. Utah might go third party.

I don’t support M4A or the Green new deal tho, I prefer Dems such as Biden over Dems such as AOC, and I am a capitalist, or is that what you meant?

[LAKISYLVANIA]

I assume it would be a primary, soooooo something like this IG if I did well? Idk. I’m blue you’re green

i would have an easy time describing you as an elitist latte liberal, therefore flipping a lot of states. Utah might go third party.

I don’t support M4A or the Green new deal tho, I prefer Dems such as Biden over Dems such as AOC, and I am a capitalist, or is that what you meant?

To be clear, it's no criticism of you. I would describe you as something who doesn't want change, has no plans, would be inefficient, be more of the same and even if he wants, would have to deal with a hostile parliament. As I would certainly seek an agressive approach, re-iterate my support for evangelical christians and propose a lot of socialist and populist proposals, i would keep the base and compete/improve with students, leftists and independents.

I would support M4A, yes. But not the GND, instead accusing rich class/foreign countries for pollution, while not entering Paris. My foreign policy approach would be like Trump, only even more erratic, unpredictable and perhaps (slightly) more hawkish as i'm less patient (if i ran as a republican).

On social issues, i would be pro-civil rights and pro-LGBTQ but anti-immigration, pro-law and order, and so on. Avoiding gun rights and abortion.

On economic issues, i would be the opposite of a SINO. A socialist, but not one in name because the brand is toxic, disguising under populism and "the working class coalition", while sometimes being more Keynesian instead of socialist.

But of course, I would not be myself, sacrificing my identity to get elected as a Republican (and would never win a GOP primary)

[S019]

Primary: Laki toying with supporting the GOP means I'd probably win easily



By March 10, Laki has only won ID and OK and drops out, but I still lose KY and WV, because the Demosaurs there are unhappy with my nomination

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Primary: Laki toying with supporting the GOP means I'd probably win easily

Which i wouldn't do... UT D's are also very liberal btw...

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

January 2023: The stage is set. A house investigation reveals President Joe Biden is in fact a beta-edition Japanese robot animating a moldering corpse. Vice President Harris successfully invokes the 25th amendment and assumes the presidency. After a wildly successful two weeks, President Harris decides she is #SoOver being president and gives a fiery speech, culminating in the awkwardly phrased declaration: "That little girl who used to not be president. That little girl was me."

With President Harris out of the race for 2024, two frontrunners naturally lead the Democratic field. Los Angeles policy wonk and milquetoast centrist, Blairite, seeks to unite America behind a platform of free trade, open borders, and taco trucks on every corner. Bringing together Obamaworld, Hillaryworld, and Kamalaworld in one establishment candidate, he assembles a crack campaign team of Rahm Emmanuel, Neera Tanden, Maya Harris, and the Lincoln Project Voter for Anthony Brindisi. One sunny January evening in Pershing Square, he declares his bold agenda before five homeless people, two lost tourists, and some strung-out old guy with the courageous vision: "If I'm elected president, the line will go up two-point-eight percent and the world will be more gooder!"

A thousand miles to his north, a different vision for the Democratic Party is unfolding. Laki, a former canvasser for the Republican, Democratic, and Birthday parties decides that his experience in the land of the french fries--Idaho--makes him naturally suited for the Presidency of the United States. Looking to reassemble the Sanders-Kucinich-Jennings Bryan coalition, he brings in Kyle Kuklinski, the Japanese robot reanimation of Mike Gravel, and a guy from Mongolia who illegally donated $2.95 to Sanders' campaign to lead the fight. Rather than lay out a governing agenda, Laki plans to kick off his campaign skydiving into famously leftist Downtown Boise. Unfortunately, he mistimes his leap and lands in the middle of unfriendly territory--the Nampa Adult Shop. Unfazed if slightly brused, he skyrockets to the top of the polls and looks poised to crush Blairite's dreams with a coalition of anti-elitists.

After a series of visious debates (Blairite hits Laki for preferring Trump to Clinton, Laki lands a blow about California elitists), Laki holds a slim but persistent lead over Blairite heading into Iowa. Corn and soy are kinda like potatoes and Blairite talks way too much about argula, after all. Blairite's only hope is to make it through to South Carolina (New Hampshire is a lost cause and Blairite spent way too much time talking about how pointless and ugly Nevada is and how anyone who chooses to live there is dumb.)

As expected, Laki sweeps the Iowa caucus with 69% of the vote. He repeats the performance in New Hampshire and then tops 80% in Nevada. Team Blairite is not feeling good headed into South Carolina. Even with Laki's gaffes about "low information voters", the #populism is unstoppable. Blarite's only hope is to hold through until Super Tuesday when #elitist California and Virginia vote. Then, two hours before the South Carolina primary, the unthinkable happens. Neera rushes to the cockpit of Blairite's blimp as it slowly drifts from Greenville to Spartanburg with incredible news! Laki randomly decided to switch parties for absolutely no reason and run in the Republican primary instead.

The field was clear! Blairite cleared 90% of the vote in South Carolina. He was on track to sweep every primary on through June. Even a late entry by Tulsi Gabbard didn't make a dent in his numbers.

Democratic Primary:


Blairite: 89%
Laki: 9%
Tulsi Gabbard: 2%

But the election wasn't over yet! Laki's late entry into the Republican primary upended everything. Eight years prior, the Republican electorate made one thing clear: it didn't give a sh!t about party loyalty, conservatism, or actual policy proposals. All that mattered was #populism . And now they had the ultimate #populist chad to vote for: the party-switching canvasser from the land of the famous potatoes. Poor Mike Pence couldn't possibly compete. Despite entering the race with less than 85 minutes before polls opened in South Carolina and a last minute Pence endorsement from Nikki Haley, ExtremeConservative, and the Japanese reanimated corpse of Jeff Flake, over 90% of South Carolina Republicans chose Laki to be their nominee. Pence dropped out the very next day and Laki swept the rest of the primaries.

Republican Primary:


Laki: 90%
Mike Pence: 8%
Also Tulsi Gabbard: 2%

America was ready! The general election was set. It was time for the showdown of the century, the #populist vs the #elitist , the race you've all been waiting for: Laki (R-ID) vs Blairite (D-CA). Once again, America was falling in love with #populism . Despite laying out detailed plans to  make the line go up a full two-point-nine percent, Blairite was polling ten points behind Laki through the summer. It was time to shake things up. Rahm thought Blairite lacked authenticity. Something about being from Downtown Los Angeles was off-putting to everyday Americans. It was time for a VP with down-home authenticity. There was only one man for the job. Blairite called up his old friend HillGoose. A couple "Let's Roll"s later and the ticket was ready to go.

Laki was on defense! He needed his own Southerner to rebalance the scales. Only one American was equipped to take the fight to the Facebook comments section and defend Laki's near-hourly policy shifts. Fuzzy was ready for action!

Going into election day, the race had tightened, but the Laki-Fuzzy ticket was still up over Blairite-Goose by eight points. It was even rumored that J. Miles Coleman had "I've seen enough" copied to his clipboard, ready to tweet the moment the clock struck 8:00 p.m. EST. As the blimp descended into Fort Lauderdale for one last rally (bewildering a number of shorebirds) Neera rushed forwards with some exciting news. With three hours until polls closed, Laki had released a public statement:

"I have decided to take an indefinite break from politics. I do not want to be president right now and I may never return to the political arena. Ima get some fries and get off the grid in Cour d'Alene for a few months."

America was in chaos, but that didn't mean it was ready for #elitism . Once all the votes were counted, the electoral map was clear:

2024 General Election

Unpledged Republican Electors (R): 277 electoral votes, 53%
Blairite-Goose (D): 256 electoral votes, 45%
Tulsi Gabbard, once again (I): 0 electoral votes, 2%

Chaos reigned! Despite the best lobbying efforts of Rahm, Neera, and Maya, the unpledged Republican electors were united by one thing: Blairite would not become President of the United States. But they couldn't agree on anything else. Some supported Mike Pence. Some wanted the Japanese to reanimate the corpse of Donald Trump. Some were supporting Laki-Fuzzy anyway. Some backed Tulsi Gabbard. As the day for the electoral college to vote inched closer, nobody knew what to expect. When all was done, the tally stood at:

Blairite-Goose: 256
Pence-Haley: 102
Laki-Fuzzy: 96
Reanimated Trump-Pence: 75
Gabbard-Modi: 4

No candidate reached 270 electoral votes. But the house would decide, surely. As the vote neared, the delegations were at a deadlock. Blairite only had the support of 24. Nonetheless, Pence was stuck at 25. Marjory Taylor-Greene--all by her lonesome--refused to support anyone except Tulsi Gabbard. With Hank Johnson inconveniently contracting a wasting plague, the delegation was tied. 24 delegations, as expected, cast their votes for Blairite. 25 cast their votes for Pence. But Georgia abstained. No candidate had reached the required 26 delegations to assume the presidency.

The House Vote


Pence: 25
Blairite: 24
Abstain: 1

All eyes were now on the senate. They would pick the new vice president who would then assume the presidency. The choice was clear: the next leader of the free world would be HillGoose or FuzzyBear. And it was thought that Fuzzy would have the slight edge. But this is where Blairite's choice to elevate Rahm Emmanuel payed off. For the next week, Rahm made the rounds through Dirksen, Russell, and Hart from office to office. He employed every tool in his arsenal: bullying, belittling, and dancing pirouettes. He was even seen dangling Ron Johnson upside down out of a window! When the senate finally convened, an upset occurred. By a margin of two votes, HillGoose (I-TN) would be the 48th President of the United States.

As inauguration day dawned, Kamala Harris wrote a note to her successor, made final preparations for her post-presidential podcast, and took a motorcade down to the Capitol where she greeted HillGoose warmly. At noon, he was sworn in as president. At one, he ordered a nuclear assault be made against Russia. At two, America was obliterated and democracy had perished from this earth.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Two neoliberals from each party were nominated in large parts due to a divided field which resulted in an election campaign that was solely centered on policy issues and differences rather than any personal attacks and would be regarded as a relatively clean campaign. The biggest debates would be over foreign policy and are opinions on federalism  where we would debate vigorously during the debates .


At the end it would be one of the closest elections ever and end with this map and a 269-269 tie

[NewYorkExpress]

Old School Republican/Paul Ryan 55% 373 EV
NewYorkExpress/Ayanna Pressley 42% 165 EV

[LAKISYLVANIA]

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Laki, initially considered an underdog, defeats Scott by a narrow margin. Laki's primary win comes as a result of his broad coalition of Hispanics, young people, and the grassroots progressive left. Scott, a fellow progressive, was the overwhelming favorite of black voters and particularly churchgoers. The median age of Scott's supporters is therefore considerably higher than Laki's.

[Chips]

I assume I run as a Republican in this scenario.

Scott victory:



Chips victory:

[MR DARK BRANDON]

If I somehow won


If you won



Likely scenario

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Laki vs Chips 2024