Echelon-Insights Poll : Senate control split at 45/45, voters fear a democratic trifecta (user search)
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Frenchrepublican
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« on: November 23, 2020, 05:41:47 PM »
« edited: November 23, 2020, 05:51:00 PM by Frenchrepublican »

These numbers are a bit different from the other poll done by Harris for The Hill which had the partisan preference for the Senate at 44D / 56R ; still these numbers could be challenging for democrats especially considering that more Biden voters are open at the idea of a split government than Trump ones.



Also contrary to a common idea in the progressive world (AOC & co) many liberal ideas are not exactly uber popular, at least according to this poll, which should give pause to the theory that Sanders/Warren would have won in a landslide, contrary to Biden.



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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2020, 05:53:51 PM »

These questions are absurdly leading. Phrase "full control" as "punishing obstructionism" and "defunding" as "common sense reform" and I guarantee another 10% of voters support it. Frankly, I'm pretty surprised that 37% of Americans support or at least don't care much about "moving the country in the direction of socialism."

You have a big third of the US electorate which would prefer a socialist economy to a capitalist one.

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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2020, 05:57:25 PM »

This is an obvious push poll. Wouldn’t read too much into it. If anything, the fact that this is only a tie, with all those “questions” (most of which are blatant GOP talking points) is a decent sign for Democrats. But I wouldn’t read too much into it either way.

Yeah we know every future election will be a blue wave, you have just to run bold progressives.
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2020, 08:05:37 AM »

What are the top messages for a Dem trifecta? Hopefully this isn't a push poll.

It’s not a push poll, by the way the sample is Biden voters +5.
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2020, 12:04:00 PM »

If Ds win the trifecta they will expand the SCOTUS and make DC a state, that is why Rs need to save the senate at all costs, to protect conservative policies.

Oh yeah, that would really be terrible if those...urban people had representation in Congress!


People of DC have representation in the House which is the popular chamber of Congress (aka the people's chamber), but as DC has never been intented to be a state it is logical you have no senator from the district.
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2020, 03:49:25 PM »

If Ds win the trifecta they will expand the SCOTUS and make DC a state, that is why Rs need to save the senate at all costs, to protect conservative policies.

Oh yeah, that would really be terrible if those...urban people had representation in Congress!


People of DC have representation in the House which is the popular chamber of Congress (aka the people's chamber), but as DC has never been intented to be a state it is logical you have no senator from the district.

Not voting representation, so it doesn't even matter, and why should someone be disenfranchised based on where they choose to live? The current statehood plan keeps DC stateless, it just makes a new state out of the populated areas.
Well in this case you can simply give voting power to the congresswoman of DC.

As for the dem plan which was approved by the House it's just insanity, it would create a new state which would be smaller than Staten Island, besides the entire economy of this state would depend of the federal government money (which would create a lot of problems as this state by definition would get much more federal fundings per capita than any other state). And I'm not even talking of the different constitutionnal issues which could emerge, keep in mind that DC is actually built on lands which technically could still be reclaimed by the state of Maryland.
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