Which party system would you prefer?

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"Early 2000's Kucinich" Democrats vs. "Early 2000's Bloomberg" Republicans

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But Manchin and Bloomberg are both Dems

I'm surprised this is all you can say when this thread seems like an oremine for your "Blairite is actually far-left etc. etc." thing.

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I like the insane belief many people have that people like Manchin and the old Blue Dogs were politically incorrect yet economically populist types who wanted an expansion of New Deal programs unlike those evil shill ring wing neoliberal effette obama dems who only care about PMC feels. This is a belief that can be quickly rectified, by um, looking at the voting record of the blue dogs.

There's a reason why I answered "early 2000's Kucinich Dems" instead.

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I like the insane belief many people have that people like Manchin and the old Blue Dogs were politically incorrect yet economically populist types who wanted an expansion of New Deal programs unlike those evil shill ring wing neoliberal effette obama dems who only care about PMC feels. This is a belief that can be quickly rectified, by um, looking at the voting record of the blue dogs.

I didn’t mean to suggest that Manchin is to the left of Obama ecomomically. I also don’t understand why Atlas thinks it’s impossible for someone to be for Obamacare but against abortion.

[citation needed]

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Manchin and Bloombergs are hardcore Republicans masquerading as Democrats. No thank you.

Manchin’s voting record is more liberal than every Republican in Congress.

Probably far to the right of Senator Jacob Javits or Clifford Case.

Ok??
Clifford Case and Jacob Javits both left Congress thirty years before Joe Manchin entered it.