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« on: November 20, 2020, 02:26:49 PM »

So if you want to do a lot of math and are into details and all that this might be the job for you. Post here or let me know privately.
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2020, 02:33:54 PM »

Has Blairite become inactive? He hasn't disappeared from the forum, so hopefully sufficient effort has been made to reach out to him.
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2020, 03:03:03 PM »

Has Blairite become inactive? He hasn't disappeared from the forum, so hopefully sufficient effort has been made to reach out to him.
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2020, 03:17:25 PM »

lfromnj's interested from a PM from a couple months ago, I'll PM him
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2020, 03:25:55 PM »

Blairite has been inactive for months dating back to August/September. He didn't respond to several requests made by both DTC and I for budget adjustments and projections in the South. There was a monthly economic report that came out in September but to my knowledge it has been radio silence ever since.
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2020, 01:45:19 PM »

Blairite has been inactive for months dating back to August/September. He didn't respond to several requests made by both DTC and I for budget adjustments and projections in the South. There was a monthly economic report that came out in September but to my knowledge it has been radio silence ever since.
Can confirm this —FT has been trying to get budget numbers from Blairite as well, with no success.
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2020, 02:23:23 PM »

Requests for Lincoln Budget numbers were sent to Lumine and Blairite last night, hopefully one of them has the time to give a response.
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2020, 03:19:40 PM »

I'd be willing to offer my services if nobody else wants to. Could be a fun project, I can't promise I could commit to it indefinitely however.
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2020, 03:23:07 PM »

On the one hand, I am a Mathematics student and in general I like to do calculations.

On the other hand, I don't really need yet another excuse to miss university lessons and let my 'career' go sh**t.
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2020, 04:20:09 PM »

We need to require legislators to score their own bills
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2020, 05:18:45 PM »

We need to require legislators to score their own bills
"Want to run for Lincoln Assembly Council? Please demonstrate your mathematical ability."

Yeah no.

Real life has the congressional budget office and it works

why we can't find someone who can be active no matter who is in power is beyond me.
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2020, 07:55:24 PM »

We need to require legislators to score their own bills
"Want to run for Lincoln Assembly Council? Please demonstrate your mathematical ability."

Yeah no.

Real life has the congressional budget office and it works

why we can't find someone who can be active no matter who is in power is beyond me.

Because having a fake internet job where you do tons of math and don't get rewarded for it is boring lmao
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2020, 09:18:50 PM »

We need to require legislators to score their own bills
"Want to run for Lincoln Assembly Council? Please demonstrate your mathematical ability."

Yeah no.

Real life has the congressional budget office and it works

why we can't find someone who can be active no matter who is in power is beyond me.

Because having a fake internet job where you do tons of math and don't get rewarded for it is boring lmao
Exactly. Hence why making that every job would be a disaster.
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2020, 09:21:31 PM »

To summarize a conversation I had earlier on Discord, this is an old problem, and legislative reform won't fix it. The practical solution as Ted says is for individual legislators to take on the burden themselves —but some people won't be up to that, while others will, so it's not a good idea to make a strict rule about it. There is always going to be this hole in the boat —we can't fix it, and we can't get a new boat, so we try to plug it up the best we can and keep going.

I will also point out that the budget process is much more important than the actual numbers themselves from a gameplay standpoint, so while of course we want to be realistic, it's okay if the math isn't exactly right.
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2020, 01:40:56 PM »

I was indeed contacted to help in the budgetary process, but as I mentioned in the Lincoln budget thread I'm both A. not legally allowed to take on duties which are explicitly given to the Comptroller General (unless I were to take a very broad and wide-ranging definition of the actual scope of my powers) and B. both not knowledgeable enough in economics and already rather overwhelmed with my present duties as it is, meaning I have a substantial GM backlog still to address (which I probably won't be able to for a few days yet).

I would like to say I think the existence of the position is a very positive thing - I would not have been able to take on the GM job if the Comptroller General wasn't a separate position -, but much like the actual GM office it does require a reasonably active and committed officeholder. Particularly because the office is bound to receive some rather daunting requests in terms of costing stuff or working on budgets.

There really isn't an immediate solution to this other than private initiative, Blairite returning to active duty or finding a new Comptroller General (which will take time due to the need for a confirmation), but it does raise once again the issue of how much the Game Engine depends on one or two individuals, which is obviously problematic.
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