Get Off the Track! (1860 runoff)

[KaiserDave]

Tilden again!

[KaiserDave]

This is where Sumner lost me "Sumner's platform is a callback to the Yankee republicanism of an earlier time: denouncing the Republicans as radical redistributionists and attempting to tie Tilden to the liberal and socialist revolutions in Europe, they call for an end to the culture of corruption that has pervaded Washington under Seward and now Frémont, labor reform, temperance, protectionism, and opposition to state involvement in private business ventures."

[KaiserDave]

1. You're taking this game too seriously.

2. The end result would have been the same under Sumner, but with more bloodshed.

3. For labour and for Ireland, it was worth it.

Taking it seriously is fun

[KaiserDave]

I can't believe this forum elected Samuel effing Tilden over Charles Sumner. Undoubtedly Sumner was far too radical for the time and would've lost in a landslide, but on Atlas? One would think this place full of Dunning School acolytes or fans of the first volume of David Herbert Donald's Sumner biography. By the way, James M. McPherson wrote a review of the second volume of said biography called Left of Lincoln. You guys just blew a huge opportunity by preferencing silly Northern identity politics over the actual issue at stake in this election, Reconstruction.

Northern Identity Politics≠Core Economic Issues

Sumner lost because he's no friend of the working man