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Question: How should/will (respectively:) the U.S. respond to a nuclear test by N. Korea
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U.S. Economic Sanctions
 
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« on: June 19, 2006, 10:47:33 PM »
« edited: July 04, 2006, 09:40:21 PM by Inks.LWC »

I saw a US News Article today on the internet w/ people's comments and was curious what you all think.
Personally I think we should start a Ground/Air War, and I think we will (if they test a missile).
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2006, 10:48:58 PM »

OK--somebody didn't get it--in the 1st 5 you vote for what you think we should do.  In the 2nd 5 options, what we will do.
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2006, 07:16:17 AM »



It's kinda hard to implement US sanctions on a country which we already have sanctions on.  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2006, 07:21:25 AM »

Combined US and UN sanctions should suffice as an appropriate punishment for North Korea.  Military action of any kind seems a bit overboard in relation to the original provocation. 
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2006, 07:47:54 AM »

The best way to punish the N. Korean government is to inform the people where the food is coming from - currently all humanitarian aid with US or other international flags on it has those symbols removed so that the people think that the food is coming from the North Korean government. That aid is what's keeping the N. Korean population from almost starving to death. So instead of handing over that aid to the N. Korean government, para-drop it over populated areas as needed with propaganda pamphlets telling the people what's really going on in their government. Don't stop until the N. Korean government either collapses or bends to our will.
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2006, 08:39:28 AM »

The best way to punish the N. Korean government is to inform the people where the food is coming from - currently all humanitarian aid with US or other international flags on it has those symbols removed so that the people think that the food is coming from the North Korean government. That aid is what's keeping the N. Korean population from almost starving to death. So instead of handing over that aid to the N. Korean government, para-drop it over populated areas as needed with propaganda pamphlets telling the people what's really going on in their government. Don't stop until the N. Korean government either collapses or bends to our will.

Or, we can launch missles over N. Korea, scare the crap out of the little man when he sees them coming, and then really scare him when the missles open up with all the rice the N. Koreans could eat.  hahaha
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2006, 10:29:37 AM »



It's kinda hard to implement US sanctions on a country which we already have sanctions on.  Smiley

My point was keep them on them--announce the sanctions to the media more.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2006, 02:49:46 PM »

No response/probably no response

Let them test all they want, they have absolutely zero interest in nuking the USA.  If they did, they'd be finished.  Kim knows this and isn't dumb enough to go nuking superpowers.
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2006, 03:37:32 PM »
« Edited: June 20, 2006, 03:41:32 PM by David S »

I would just make it clear to the government and the people of N Korea that if they attack the US the result for them will be annihilation.  Iwould also make sure that we either have or are doing everything possible to develop a missle defense system capable of stopping at least a small attack from a fruitcake country like N Korea.

John Dibble's idea is good one but I would also inform the Korean people that money being spent by their government on nukes is money not being spent on food and useful consumer goods.
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2006, 03:49:59 PM »

Tell the Japanese its their problem! Have them change their constitution and rearm. They have kicked ass before let them do it again.
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2006, 04:51:38 PM »

One alternative might be declaring North Korea a "No Fly Zone."  Anything that goes up comes down, hard.
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2006, 09:57:19 PM »

I kind-of agree with Dibble. Airdrop food, also the no fly zone option is a good one (although I think that Kim would refuse to comply and declare war).

I voted War / UN Sanctions.
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2006, 11:20:03 PM »

No response/probably no response

Let them test all they want, they have absolutely zero interest in nuking the USA.  If they did, they'd be finished.  Kim knows this and isn't dumb enough to go nuking superpowers.

Then why build missile that can reach us?
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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2006, 11:22:43 PM »

Tell the Japanese its their problem! Have them change their constitution and rearm. They have kicked ass before let them do it again.

So what happens if you get Japan involved, then they're left open to China--who has threatened Taiwan recently.  If they're bold enough to threaten U.S.-backed Taiwan, what's stopping them from invading an off-to-war-in-Korea Japan-->starting WWIII?
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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2006, 11:27:15 PM »

One alternative might be declaring North Korea a "No Fly Zone."  Anything that goes up comes down, hard.

It's a good idea, but enforcing it would mean occupying N. Korea-->WAR!
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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2006, 12:12:56 AM »

One alternative might be declaring North Korea a "No Fly Zone."  Anything that goes up comes down, hard.

It's a good idea, but enforcing it would mean occupying N. Korea-->WAR!

Not necessarily.  You can use "stand off" weapons.  Keep in mind that they are effectively violating foreign airspace when they send a missile over Japan, or worse yet, the US.

Another alternative might be to detonate conventional explosives over North Korea.  Harmless, but more than enough to demonstrate to NK that there is a massive retaliation possibility.  It also has the benefit of letting the peasants see it.  Kim might suddenly fear a mutiny of his armed forces.  This could be coupled with knocking state radio off the air with a more powerful signal.  That's the "stick."  We could offer some "carrots" as well.
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2006, 12:20:30 AM »

One alternative might be declaring North Korea a "No Fly Zone."  Anything that goes up comes down, hard.

It's a good idea, but enforcing it would mean occupying N. Korea-->WAR!

Not necessarily.  You can use "stand off" weapons.  Keep in mind that they are effectively violating foreign airspace when they send a missile over Japan, or worse yet, the US.

Another alternative might be to detonate conventional explosives over North Korea.  Harmless, but more than enough to demonstrate to NK that there is a massive retaliation possibility.  It also has the benefit of letting the peasants see it.  Kim might suddenly fear a mutiny of his armed forces.  This could be coupled with knocking state radio off the air with a more powerful signal.  That's the "stick."  We could offer some "carrots" as well.

True; however the only way that Kim will back down is if there is a gun pointed at his head.
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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2006, 09:37:42 AM »

One alternative might be declaring North Korea a "No Fly Zone."  Anything that goes up comes down, hard.

It's a good idea, but enforcing it would mean occupying N. Korea-->WAR!

Not necessarily.  You can use "stand off" weapons.  Keep in mind that they are effectively violating foreign airspace when they send a missile over Japan, or worse yet, the US.

Another alternative might be to detonate conventional explosives over North Korea.  Harmless, but more than enough to demonstrate to NK that there is a massive retaliation possibility.  It also has the benefit of letting the peasants see it.  Kim might suddenly fear a mutiny of his armed forces.  This could be coupled with knocking state radio off the air with a more powerful signal.  That's the "stick."  We could offer some "carrots" as well.

True; however the only way that Kim will back down is if there is a gun pointed at his head.

There are guns and there are guns.

Another possibility is using missile defense weapons.  Problem is, they might not work.  They have had some success, but the don't have a particularly successful track record.
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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2006, 09:46:02 AM »


I still say the best way to deal with N. Korea in general is sending in a bunch of S. Korea special forces into the North through China and lead an uprising.  But, do it with a CNN crew on hand with a live feed showing the North's crack down on the uprising, sparking off both domestic and international outrage against Kim.  Sure, people will die in the process, but I bet it will be a lot less than if the US went in there with overwhelming force.
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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2006, 10:03:49 AM »

No response/probably no response

Let them test all they want, they have absolutely zero interest in nuking the USA.  If they did, they'd be finished.  Kim knows this and isn't dumb enough to go nuking superpowers.

Then why build missile that can reach us?

To try to bring us to the negotiating table.
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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2006, 02:26:31 PM »

No response/probably no response

Let them test all they want, they have absolutely zero interest in nuking the USA.  If they did, they'd be finished.  Kim knows this and isn't dumb enough to go nuking superpowers.

Then why build missile that can reach us?

To try to bring us to the negotiating table.

To accomplish what--we won't give in to anything.  The only thing it can do to them is get Kim killed.
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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2006, 09:48:00 PM »

Here's Japan's proposed response:

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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2006, 09:52:16 PM »

"...if the reclusive communist country..."

North Korea isn't even communist-in-name anymore.
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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2006, 10:26:10 PM »

I say Boss Tweed is correct. Kim Jong Il has no intention of launching nuclear weapons at the United States. If he did so, our ABMs could shoot them down (in theory) and the combined retaliation from the United States, the United Nations, South Korea, and Japan would reduce North Korea into rubble.

My biggest fear is that North Korea could give nuclear weapons to terrorists. Therefore, if N. Korea tests a missile, we should retaliate against North Korean missile sites with airstrikes (similar to Iraq in 1998 for violation of UN resolutions).

North Korea's only retaliatory option would be against South Korea, and if they crossed the demilitarized zone, they'd bring in the entire United Nations and initiate a full-scale war, which they'd ultimately lose.
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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2006, 12:10:05 AM »

I say Boss Tweed is correct. Kim Jong Il has no intention of launching nuclear weapons at the United States. If he did so, our ABMs could shoot them down (in theory) and the combined retaliation from the United States, the United Nations, South Korea, and Japan would reduce North Korea into rubble.

My biggest fear is that North Korea could give nuclear weapons to terrorists. Therefore, if N. Korea tests a missile, we should retaliate against North Korean missile sites with airstrikes (similar to Iraq in 1998 for violation of UN resolutions).

North Korea's only retaliatory option would be against South Korea, and if they crossed the demilitarized zone, they'd bring in the entire United Nations and initiate a full-scale war, which they'd ultimately lose.

Your points seem logical, but since when has Kim Jong Il acted according to logic?  I see Kim as completely unpredictable, and in the end, ultimately stupid--he just wants to see how far he can get, but eventually he's gonna get melted.
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