S.20.4.3 - Vexillology On My Mind Resolution [FAILED]
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« on: November 15, 2020, 04:35:23 PM »
« edited: November 22, 2020, 08:28:03 PM by KoopaDaQuick »

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A CHAMBER RESOLUTION
referring to one of our states' usage of Confederate symbolism on its flag

BE IT ENACTED BY THE SOUTHERN CHAMBER RESOLVED.

Section 1, TITLE AND DEFINITIONS.
1. The title of this Resolution shall be, the "Vexillology On My Mind Resolution."

Section 2, RESOLUTION TEXT.
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WHEREAS, the flag of the Confederate States of America’s government from November 28, 1861 to May 1, 1863, nicknamed the “Stars and Bars”, displays a blue canton with 13 stars alongside three horizontal stripes alternating red and white;

WHEREAS, the current flag of the state of Georgia is this exact design unchanged, with the exception of the state seal being charged in the middle of the canton;

WHEREAS, it is extremely inappropriate and distasteful for a state to bear such obvious Confederate symbolism on its flag in the 21st century;

WHEREAS, many African-Atlasians who live in Georgia are not comfortable with flying a flag of such checkered history;

BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE CHAMBER OF DELEGATES:

1) Condemns the current state flag of Georgia for its blatant bigotry.

2) Desires to remove all instances of neo-Confederate symbolism from her states’ official symbolism, whether it be state seals, flags, or mottos.

3) Urges the state of Georgia to adopt a new flag that has absolutely no Confederate symbolism to speak of.

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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2020, 04:47:18 PM »
« Edited: November 15, 2020, 04:57:15 PM by KoopaDaQuick »

Various states in the Southern Region have been far too accepting of Neo-Confederate symbolism on its flags, seals, and other forms of symbolism. For example, Georgia has been constantly using Confederate symbols on its flags since 1879. The current flag (the 2003 variant that Lumine confirmed to be the current state flag in the Atlasia universe, displayed on the right) is literally just the First National Flag of the Confederacy (left) but with the state seal charged in the canton.


I do not need to lecture you about how glorifying the Confederacy is wrong. Keep our history in the history books, but don't let racism on our flags. With this resolution, I hope we can convince the state government of Georgia to adopt a design that all Georgians can fly. I yield the floor.
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2020, 03:17:18 AM »





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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2020, 06:11:54 PM »

Personally, I would disagree that it is "obvious confederate symbolism" compared to the Confederate Battle Emblem - at first glance, I thought the 13 stars represented the 13 original colonies. The current flag was passed by the voters with over 73% with people on both sides of the issue supporting it and now saying it is a settled issue (see article below). Of course, if there is a movement of Georgians to change it, I absolutely support all efforts of letting The People of Georgia having the final say on these issues.

FWIW: https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/behind-why-georgia-flag-not-flashpoint-anymore/jgsroEDOdhFaXaPT9GYCUO/

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The hard-fought compromise that emerged was struck with bipartisan support from Black and white lawmakers that spanned the terms of three separate governors, and there’s little appetite among current political leaders and activists to revisit the debate now.
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2020, 06:59:49 PM »

Yeah, in my opinion, the current flag "glorifying" the confederacy is a huge stretch. I see no issue in this, and I would rather not create more work than is necessary. I am inclined to vote no on this resolution as it currently stands.
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2020, 11:23:43 PM »

As much as I hate neoconfederates and racist scum,  this seems like overreach even to me.  Georgia voters should change their flag, just like Mississippi did.
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2020, 02:12:56 AM »

As much as I hate neoconfederates and racist scum,  this seems like overreach even to me.  Georgia voters should change their flag, just like Mississippi did.

And they can. This is just a resolution, the gov't of Georgia is not going to be obligated to anything. All this is really is just a nudge and a wink.
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2020, 03:17:58 PM »

I think everyone has formed an opinion on this, I'm calling for a final vote.
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2020, 03:24:45 PM »

A final vote has been opened. Please vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN.

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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2020, 03:44:34 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2020, 04:13:06 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2020, 08:22:32 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2020, 07:16:58 PM »

nay
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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2020, 08:29:28 PM »

Vexillology On My Mind Resolution
The Third Bill of the Twentieth Southern Chamber, Sponsored by Koopa D. Quick (P-AR)

FEDPAXD.A.LABTOTAL
Aye
0
1
0
1
2
Nay
2
0
1
0
3
Abstain
0
0
0
0
0
Not Present
0
0
0
0
0

Mr. DTC of Georgia (FED/IND)
Mr. HARVEY LEE UPDYKE III of Alabama (LAB/IND)
Ms. KOOPA D. QUICK of Arkansas (PAX/STR)
Mr. REAGENTE of Missouri (FED/DPP)
Mr. TMTHFORU94 of Kansas (DA/AFP)

The bill fails. No further action from the governor is necessary.
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