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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2020, 06:13:37 AM »
« edited: November 14, 2020, 06:24:12 AM by Frenchrepublican »

If Germany were a U.S. state, all its 114 electoral votes would go to Biden. Cheesy

Yeah, but it's unlikely that Biden would get 90% of the vote, I mean if Germans were US citizens they would vote according to a more traditional right / left divide, yeah Trump is very unpopular among Germans but it doesn't mean that 90% of Germans are liberals / progressives, if they were US citizens and were voting on domestic issues rather than on the personnality of the candidates the divide would be closer to something like a 2 to 1 advantage for Biden rather than a 9 to 1 one.
The corallory to this valid point is that it also works in case of more pro-Trump nations like Russia.

Russia would be weird ; LOL. Someone like Ross Perot / George Wallace could do well here.
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« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2020, 06:16:41 AM »

If Germany were a U.S. state, all its 114 electoral votes would go to Biden. Cheesy

Yeah, but it's unlikely that Biden would get 90% of the vote, I mean if Germans were US citizens they would vote according to a more traditional right / left divide, yeah Trump is very unpopular among Germans but it doesn't mean that 90% of Germans are liberals / progressives, if they were US citizens and were voting on domestic issues rather than on the personnality of the candidates the divide would be closer to something like a 2 to 1 advantage for Biden rather than a 9 to 1 one.
The corallory to this valid point is that it also works in case of more pro-Trump nations like Russia.

Russia would be weird ; LOL. Someone like George Wallace or David Duke could do well here.
I figure Russia's big enough that the two parties would have to massively reinvent themselves, but even if we assume the two parties just stay mostly the same somehow, I could see a very high rate of third party votes (like, say, 20%), and Dems and Rs never getting more than double the vote of the other party.
Ironically, that would look a lot like...Alaska, which we purchased from Russia. Lol.
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« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2020, 08:06:11 AM »

Too bad Germany doesn't have electoral votes

Republicans would never win national election then, lmao.
Germany would have 118 Electoral Votes or something.

83,166,711 / 39,512,000 * 53 + 2 = 113.56 ≈ 114

(If you want to be ubercorrect, you ought to use the population figures of 2010, but I can't be bothered to look them up now. 🙅🏼)
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« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2020, 08:12:43 AM »

Too bad Germany doesn't have electoral votes

Republicans would never win national election then, lmao.

Why not adopt the Nebraska/Maine method? I'm sure Trump would thereby have gained some electors in Saxony, on the German-Polish border or in Swabia. Tongue
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« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2020, 08:17:52 AM »

Too bad Germany doesn't have electoral votes

Republicans would never win national election then, lmao.
Germany would have 118 Electoral Votes or something.

83,166,711 / 39,512,000 * 53 + 2 = 113.56 ≈ 114

(If you want to be ubercorrect, you ought to use the population figures of 2010, but I can't be bothered to look them up now. 🙅🏼)
My estimate was based on Germany's population of around 83 million divided by the 700,000, which isn't far from the average total for a house district, but I realize now that is flawed math.
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« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2020, 08:28:42 AM »

Too bad Germany doesn't have electoral votes

Republicans would never win national election then, lmao.
Germany would have 118 Electoral Votes or something.

83,166,711 / 39,512,000 * 53 + 2 = 113.56 ≈ 114

(If you want to be ubercorrect, you ought to use the population figures of 2010, but I can't be bothered to look them up now. 🙅🏼)
My estimate was based on Germany's population of around 83 million divided by the 700,000, which isn't far from the average total for a house district, but I realize now that is flawed math.

The problem with that method is the fact that even tiny U.S. state are heavily overrepresented - not only in the Electoral College, but also in the House of Representatives.
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« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2020, 09:34:21 AM »

Too bad Germany doesn't have electoral votes

Republicans would never win national election then, lmao.
Germany would have 118 Electoral Votes or something.

83,166,711 / 39,512,000 * 53 + 2 = 113.56 ≈ 114

(If you want to be ubercorrect, you ought to use the population figures of 2010, but I can't be bothered to look them up now. 🙅🏼)
My estimate was based on Germany's population of around 83 million divided by the 700,000, which isn't far from the average total for a house district, but I realize now that is flawed math.

The problem with that method is the fact that even tiny U.S. state are heavily overrepresented - not only in the Electoral College, but also in the House of Representatives.
Not sure I follow fully.
Small states as a whole aren't heavily overrepresented in the House, though the very smallest states are; they are disproportionately likely to be underrepresented and overrepresented, as you have a smaller range of possible seats for such a given state. Montana, for instance, has the smallest amount of voting power in the US House relative to population, and both Dakotas (or at least SD) at-large CDs are well above the national average in relative terms in regards to population.
For every Vermont and Wyoming, there is a Montana and Delaware.
Not to mention the fact that these are basically analomies in the overall total. Population per representative doesn't change all that radically once you break out of the bottom third maybe, of states by population?
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« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2020, 09:49:03 AM »

Not sure I follow fully.
Small states as a whole aren't heavily overrepresented in the House, though the very smallest states are; they are disproportionately likely to be underrepresented and overrepresented, as you have a smaller range of possible seats for such a given state. Montana, for instance, has the smallest amount of voting power in the US House relative to population, and both Dakotas (or at least SD) at-large CDs are well above the national average in relative terms in regards to population.
For every Vermont and Wyoming, there is a Montana and Delaware.
Not to mention the fact that these are basically analomies in the overall total. Population per representative doesn't change all that radically once you break out of the bottom third maybe, of states by population?

I just wanted to clarify why I used California's population figure to calculate "Germany's electoral votes", and not the average number of voter representation per representative, like you did, as small states like Wyoming or Vermont heavily spoil the average numbers.
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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2020, 09:59:37 AM »

Not sure I follow fully.
Small states as a whole aren't heavily overrepresented in the House, though the very smallest states are; they are disproportionately likely to be underrepresented and overrepresented, as you have a smaller range of possible seats for such a given state. Montana, for instance, has the smallest amount of voting power in the US House relative to population, and both Dakotas (or at least SD) at-large CDs are well above the national average in relative terms in regards to population.
For every Vermont and Wyoming, there is a Montana and Delaware.
Not to mention the fact that these are basically analomies in the overall total. Population per representative doesn't change all that radically once you break out of the bottom third maybe, of states by population?

I just wanted to clarify why I used California's population figure to calculate "Germany's electoral votes", and not the average number of voter representation per representative, like you did, as small states like Wyoming or Vermont heavily spoil the average numbers.
Ah ok.
Isn't there also at least two ways to calculate an average anyway? Population represented with full voting members in the House/# of overall members in the chamber, vs the mean of all the state-level total population per member figures?
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« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2020, 10:14:54 AM »

Ah ok.
Isn't there also at least two ways to calculate an average anyway? Population represented with full voting members in the House/# of overall members in the chamber, vs the mean of all the state-level total population per member figures?

You are certainly referring to the harmonic mean.
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