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« on: November 12, 2020, 10:56:07 AM »

According to a YouGov/Washington examiner poll, only 38% of Republicans would like to see Trump run for president again, compared to 43% who would prefer someone else.

Right off the bat that seems like a strong showing, seeing as how 38% could be a lot in a crowded field of Republican presidential candidates. However, could this mean that Trump (who has around an 82% approval rating among Republicans) could actually be in a weaker position heading into 2024?

Could it be a mistake for Trump to announce too early that he is running in 2024?
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2020, 12:28:04 PM »

I don't think it's a mistake for him; it'll cause the other Trumpier Republicans (of which many, maybe most are by now) to be far more cautious and less likely to run. Josh Hawley is a paper tiger, but for example, there's no way he runs if Trump announces he is running for 2024 or likely to run.

It'll be very similar to the 2016 Dem primary in my opinion, where the looming threat of an HRC run caused every then-notable Democrat to sit out 2016. The difference is that you have less room for a more conservative challenger to somehow pose a threat to Trump in the primary.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2020, 12:50:20 PM »

According to a YouGov/Washington examiner poll, only 38% of Republicans would like to see Trump run for president again, compared to 43% who would prefer someone else.

Right off the bat that seems like a strong showing, seeing as how 38% could be a lot in a crowded field of Republican presidential candidates. However, could this mean that Trump (who has around an 82% approval rating among Republicans) could actually be in a weaker position heading into 2024?

Could it be a mistake for Trump to announce too early that he is running in 2024?

Yes, because the GOP learned from 2016. They will be able to pick one candidate (say, Haley) they want to rally around as the "establishment" pick to run against Trump and keep everyone else out. Then he/she would have a fighting chance at least.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2020, 07:41:12 PM »

Republicans need to recognize that Donald Trump was a ghastly mistake as President even if he won once and barely lost the second time. Democrats will hit Trump from the Right on issues that Republicans usually own.
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2020, 05:33:34 AM »

I'm actually surprised by the 43%.

I thought all of the #NeverTrumpers had become Democrats by now.
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2020, 12:56:24 AM »

I'm actually surprised by the 43%.

I thought all of the #NeverTrumpers had become Democrats by now.

The word never represents opposition to something infinite in its extent in both the past, present and future.

Its time you guys start to entertain some new vocabulary since a lot of you on both sides seem to be suffering from a severe lack of such when it comes to describing relationship between Trump and the republican Party. None of these  groups below are neocon, never trump or wetted necessarily to 2015 GOP.

"Trump Fatigue" - Supporter of Trump either all the way through or after a certain point who has grown weary of the constant chaos.
"Post- Trump Republican" - A bog standard generic Republican who supported Trump but is looking for something better, stronger, newer. May fit into category one.
"Post-Trump Populist/Nationalist" - A populist or nationalist conservative who celebrated Trump's success but realizes that in order for long term success to be achieved, their needs to be a post Trump universe in which such is viable without him present.
"Deeply Disturbed Social Conservative" - Mormons, some evangelicals and a number of moralist voters aghast at Trump's private life.
"Diehard Constitutionalists" - Right on the tin, people disturbed by Trump's Jacksonian approach to the Presidency.

As a side note, the whole narrative about "Only Trump can do X" and "We are not going back to 2015", are operating at cross purposes. Even if you support Trump and the populist nationalism he he embodied, and maybe even support him coming back in 2024. Sooner or later Trump is not going to be in the picture, be that ten or 15 years. If their isn't a conceptualization of these strains post Trump, then the influence of business donors will erode the GOP right back to 2015 because at the end of the day money talks and the Republican party has a 150 year history of siding with business at the expense of their base.  
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2021, 01:51:35 PM »

According to a YouGov/Washington examiner poll, only 38% of Republicans would like to see Trump run for president again, compared to 43% who would prefer someone else.

Right off the bat that seems like a strong showing, seeing as how 38% could be a lot in a crowded field of Republican presidential candidates. However, could this mean that Trump (who has around an 82% approval rating among Republicans) could actually be in a weaker position heading into 2024?

Could it be a mistake for Trump to announce too early that he is running in 2024?


I actually agree that U=It would be detrimental for the GOP to have Trump run again.
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