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« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2020, 06:59:24 PM »

I think the socialism fear-mongering probably worked in Florida, but for everyone else that unexpectedly voted Republican, especially down ballot, I suspect it was law and order. That defund/abolish the police nonsense really made its way into the national discourse in a way that it never should have. I don't think Republicans would've gotten this surge of support had the election taken place in the immediate aftermath of the riots in response to Floyd's murder in Minnesota, but after several months of on-again off-again rioting I think it probably started to convince people to vote Republican.
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« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2020, 07:15:58 PM »

I know that exit polls aren't really reliable, especially this year. However, what is the breakdown NATIONWIDE of the Asian vote and the Latino vote?

Also, I would be interested to see the breakdown by ethnic group.

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/03/929478378/understanding-the-2020-electorate-ap-votecast-survey

Biden +42 for Asians, Biden +28 for Latinos, according to AP. There may be some sampling issues with the Asian crosstab (2%), but I don’t think swings in urban enclaves are necessarily accurate proxies for how the entire Asian American electorate voted.
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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2020, 07:17:10 PM »

Bernie lost alot of appeal between 2016 and 2020, I'll be curious to know why

I've been wondering the same thing. I think the biggest factor is that in 2016 he seemed really fresh and presenting a unique platform to the country. Plus he ran a much more populist campaign in 2016 (in my opinion, anyway); he was more willing to criticize the Democratic party.

Another factor is that memories of the recession were much more on the minds of voters in 2015/16 than they were in 2019.
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« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2020, 07:41:16 PM »

I'm starting to get the impression that the BLM movement has not made widespread friends among the Latino and Asian communities outside of those individuals who are already hardcore Democrats/leftists.
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« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2020, 08:19:24 PM »

I know that exit polls aren't really reliable, especially this year. However, what is the breakdown NATIONWIDE of the Asian vote and the Latino vote?

Also, I would be interested to see the breakdown by ethnic group.

NBC exit polls say NV Asians (58-40) were more R than TX Asians (63-30), but they also say Biden and Trump were practically tied among non-white voters in WA...

AALDEF exit poll of early voters in Clark County, NV:  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/asian-americans-are-growing-fastest-nevada-here-s-how-they-n1247323

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Just under half the people questioned in AALDEF's separate exit poll of early voters in Clark County, which includes the state's AAPI center, Las Vegas, identified as Filipino American.

Among those Filipino Americans, 56 percent supported Biden, while 44 percent backed Trump. Biden did better among those of self-identified Chinese descent, AALDEF found, winning 64 percent of the early vote to Trump's 29 percent, and Biden was even more successful among people of Korean and Indian heritage.

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That having been said, Vattamala warned that some analysts could try to compare 2020 exit polls with exit polls from 2016 and conclude, "Oh, it looks like Trump made a lot of inroads."

"That seems to be the narrative now, [that] more people of color were starting to vote for Trump, support Trump, than in the past," he said. "And I would just say I would take that with a grain of salt and be a little cautious."
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« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2020, 11:13:00 PM »

Law and order.

Giuliani won the mayoralty in 1993 and 1997 because he wedged the crime issue with Black New Yorkers and appealed to Latinos and Asians.
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« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2020, 11:36:29 PM »

The thuggery and the support of such by the rats. Sadly, it wasn't enough to save Trump but Biden might have beaten him by 2-3% more if not for it.
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« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2020, 04:04:02 PM »

Are we sure it's not only the Vietnamese that notably swung to Trump?

The nationwide swing may have been more with Filipinos and Indians than Vietnamese. If this poll is accurate, Vietnamese did not swing significantly R at the presidential level from 2016.

https://aapifund.org/program/research-and-tools/

National poll- N = 1716 + 2.4% (Oct 23-Nov 2)

Chinese: 72-27-1 (Biden +45)
Filipino: 60-38-2 (Biden +22)
Indian: 70-28-2 (Biden +42)
Japanese: 70-29-1 (Biden +41)
Korean: 71-23-6 (Biden + 48)
Vietnamese: 61-36-3 (Biden +25)
OVERALL: 68-30-2 (Biden +38)
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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2020, 02:08:00 AM »

I mean the GOP has been screaming the former for decades so probably the latter IMO.

But that was before Bernie and AOC were prominent. I think the rise of those two gave the "socialism" argument more credence, causing Democrats to lose ground in places like Miami-Dade and the OC.

This is 100% correct- Bernie and AOC have severely damaged the image of the party and Biden considering Karen Bass was also bad. Bernie, AOC, Omar refusing to denounce Maduro as a dictator and not recognizing Juan Guaidó as the leader of Venezuela along with Bernie's Castro comments were just terrible. The riots and the line Biden unfortunately(and clumsily) had to walk hurt too. That and Biden needed to go to Florida more, he should have gone to Miami-Dade in July.
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