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« on: November 11, 2020, 08:02:01 AM »

How did Clinton win Montana in 1992??!
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2020, 03:33:33 PM »

I imagine because of Perot, but I guess Montana also has an anti-incumbent streak.
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2020, 07:51:51 AM »

I imagine because of Perot, but I guess Montana also has an anti-incumbent streak.
Perot likely played a part.
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2020, 09:02:11 AM »

Max Baucus was a Senator from 1978/2014  and he was a blue dog like Bill Clinton was, helped Clinton had in the state..

Since 2010, D's got rid of Defense of Marriage Act and Hillary was punished for SSM endorsement, being a female in 2016
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2020, 09:04:26 AM »

Perot. Period.
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2020, 08:51:36 PM »

Perot certainly helped, but we must remember Montana was only a lean R state until the mid-1990s "War on the West" backlash against Gore-influenced greenish polices and the 1994 gun control measures. Note Montana was roughly within national average in the Reagan and Nixon landslides.


Dukakis v. Bush 1988:



Gore v. Bush 2000:

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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2020, 04:47:40 PM »

Max Baucus was a longtime Senator from MT, Baucus helped Clinton win the state
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2020, 07:20:48 PM »

How did Clinton win Montana in 1992??!

By polling 154,507 votes to Bush's 144,207 and Perot's 107,225.
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2020, 06:36:31 AM »

Perot certainly helped, but we must remember Montana was only a lean R state until the mid-1990s "War on the West" backlash against Gore-influenced greenish polices and the 1994 gun control measures. Note Montana was roughly within national average in the Reagan and Nixon landslides.


Dukakis v. Bush 1988:



Gore v. Bush 2000:


I forget how big a deal 1994 was sometimes. Clinton still won some Southern states in 1996(and Arizona) though.
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2020, 04:36:31 AM »

Also the farm crisis was still going on even into the early 90s. It's why Dukakis was so competitive in Montana + places like The Dakotas even as he got walloped Nationwide.
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2020, 02:21:42 AM »

Perot certainly helped, but we must remember Montana was only a lean R state until the mid-1990s "War on the West" backlash against Gore-influenced greenish polices and the 1994 gun control measures. Note Montana was roughly within national average in the Reagan and Nixon landslides.


Dukakis v. Bush 1988:



Gore v. Bush 2000:



For the record, Missoula County was one of Nader’s best counties nationwide in 2000.
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2020, 05:15:30 AM »

Also the farm crisis was still going on even into the early 90s. It's why Dukakis was so competitive in Montana + places like The Dakotas even as he got walloped Nationwide.

Should also be noted that the logging, paper, and pulp industries suffered greatly in the late-80s/early-90s. I would assume the Republican association with CAFTA and then NAFTA was perhaps a bit unpopular and voters may have been attracted to Perot's anti-free trade stance and Clinton's promises to renegotiate parts of the deal. I'm not an expert on Montana's economy but I am pretty sure they were in heavy competition with Canada on this front
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