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« Reply #775 on: June 08, 2021, 11:55:52 AM »

Virginia should really just let Governors run for re-election so this kind of mess doesn't happen again. Yes, it sucks when the well-liked former Gov comes in and decides he'd like another term, cutting off every other candidate. There's a reason this doesn't happen in any other state.
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« Reply #776 on: June 08, 2021, 12:00:42 PM »

Virginia should really just let Governors run for re-election so this kind of mess doesn't happen again. Yes, it sucks when the well-liked former Gov comes in and decides he'd like another term, cutting off every other candidate. There's a reason this doesn't happen in any other state.

Yeah, the whole 'one term at a time but you can come back whenever you want as long as its not consecutive' is just dumb
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« Reply #777 on: June 08, 2021, 02:46:02 PM »

Virginia should really just let Governors run for re-election so this kind of mess doesn't happen again. Yes, it sucks when the well-liked former Gov comes in and decides he'd like another term, cutting off every other candidate. There's a reason this doesn't happen in any other state.

I agree, but it should be remembered that the only reason T-Mac is coming back is because Fairfax's political career was ruined because of the sexual assault allegation.

If that hadn't come out/happened, Fairfax would be Governor right now and coasting to a full term, and be widely regarded as a rising star.
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« Reply #778 on: June 08, 2021, 02:55:53 PM »

Sucks that T-Mac is going to run away with this nomination because JCF seems like one of the best gubernatorial candidates anywhere. She could've been a real model for black women to win statewide in 2022 (Abrams, Beasley, etc.) but old white men just can't give up their power.

Yeah, agreed. McAuliffe is totally fine but I feel like Caroll Foy would've been an amazing candidate. It's really too bad.

She should have switched to the lt. governor race and offer to support T-Mac in exchange for him endorsing her for the position and for governor in four years. Then she would also have had more experience under her belt. With T-Mac's help, she would have won the nomination for lt. governor and be the frontrunner for 2025.
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« Reply #779 on: June 08, 2021, 03:11:42 PM »

Sucks that T-Mac is going to run away with this nomination because JCF seems like one of the best gubernatorial candidates anywhere. She could've been a real model for black women to win statewide in 2022 (Abrams, Beasley, etc.) but old white men just can't give up their power.

Yeah, agreed. McAuliffe is totally fine but I feel like Caroll Foy would've been an amazing candidate. It's really too bad.

She should have switched to the lt. governor race and offer to support T-Mac in exchange for him endorsing her for the position and for governor in four years. Then she would also have had more experience under her belt. With T-Mac's help, she would have won the nomination for lt. governor and be the frontrunner for 2025.

I suspect it's degrading to have to 'wait your turn' - Herring has had to do it twice already. However there was some regret among twitter Dems when neither did such a move earlier in the year, and instead the Jennifer's choose to attack each other for potential superiority.
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« Reply #780 on: June 08, 2021, 03:14:58 PM »

Sucks that T-Mac is going to run away with this nomination because JCF seems like one of the best gubernatorial candidates anywhere. She could've been a real model for black women to win statewide in 2022 (Abrams, Beasley, etc.) but old white men just can't give up their power.

Yeah, agreed. McAuliffe is totally fine but I feel like Caroll Foy would've been an amazing candidate. It's really too bad.

She should have switched to the lt. governor race and offer to support T-Mac in exchange for him endorsing her for the position and for governor in four years. Then she would also have had more experience under her belt. With T-Mac's help, she would have won the nomination for lt. governor and be the frontrunner for 2025.

I suspect it's degrading to have to 'wait your turn' - Herring has had to do it twice already. However there was some regret among twitter Dems when neither did such a move earlier in the year, and instead the Jennifer's choose to attack each other for potential superiority.

Could be interpreted as such, but I consider it a sense of political pragmatism and a careful weighing of options. Unfortunately for her now is that she also gave up her seat in the legislature for a gubernatorial run that's a real longshot.
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« Reply #781 on: June 08, 2021, 04:28:43 PM »
« Edited: June 08, 2021, 04:52:39 PM by Frodo »

Virginia should really just let Governors run for re-election so this kind of mess doesn't happen again. Yes, it sucks when the well-liked former Gov comes in and decides he'd like another term, cutting off every other candidate. There's a reason this doesn't happen in any other state.

Yeah, the whole 'one term at a time but you can come back whenever you want as long as its not consecutive' is just dumb

The bargain made when the Virginia constitution was adopted was that you can have a relatively powerful governor to counterbalance the General Assembly, but he would serve only one consecutive term.  So the only way Virginia is going to have a governor serving two consecutive terms is if his power is reduced.   
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« Reply #782 on: June 08, 2021, 05:21:12 PM »

Virginia should really just let Governors run for re-election so this kind of mess doesn't happen again. Yes, it sucks when the well-liked former Gov comes in and decides he'd like another term, cutting off every other candidate. There's a reason this doesn't happen in any other state.

I agree, but it should be remembered that the only reason T-Mac is coming back is because Fairfax's political career was ruined because of the sexual assault allegation.

If that hadn't come out/happened, Fairfax would be Governor right now and coasting to a full term, and be widely regarded as a rising star.
Yeah, for a week or so it looked like Justin Fairfax would serve a record-breaking 1.5 consecutive terms.

Anyways the Virginia government is set up so that there's a steady stream of Lt. Governors and Attorneys General to run for Governor or other statewide office. That's almost always how it works, with at least one party getting their nominee for governor from those positions. So it's a bit presumptuous for Carroll Foy to run for governor after only 4 years in the House of Delegates, when many people of equal or greater seniority were only running for Lt. Governor, and when McAuliffe and McClellan both had bigger records in Richmond. If you're more progressive, that's an argument at least, but it's not one that Establishment-minded Virginia voters are very receptive to.

In any event, the commonwealth is 100% guaranteed to have a barrier-breaking Lt. Governor of some sort, who will then be in a position to run in '25.
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« Reply #783 on: June 08, 2021, 06:10:50 PM »

Tmac at 57%.

Ddhq initial vote dump
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« Reply #784 on: June 08, 2021, 06:14:59 PM »

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« Reply #785 on: June 08, 2021, 06:15:27 PM »



I know it's only a few votes but I wouldn't be surprised at all if the final outcome looks like this.
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« Reply #786 on: June 08, 2021, 06:16:47 PM »

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« Reply #787 on: June 08, 2021, 06:18:43 PM »

Virginia is a solid blue state that is getting bluer but the day

How on earth didn’t a young, vibrant, fresh rising star emerge here?

Instead we are stuck with a boring stale guy who was already governor anyway.

What went wrong?

All those yuppies in nova really want this???
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« Reply #788 on: June 08, 2021, 06:20:31 PM »

Virginia is a solid blue state that is getting bluer but the day

How on earth didn’t a young, vibrant, fresh rising star emerge here?

Instead we are stuck with a boring stale guy who was already governor anyway.

What went wrong?

All those yuppies in nova really want this???

Because he got accused of sexual harassment.
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« Reply #789 on: June 08, 2021, 06:22:47 PM »

FWIW, Ayala is leading LG by a surprisingly comfortable margin, and Herring is up narrowly.
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« Reply #790 on: June 08, 2021, 06:23:36 PM »

Lee Carter is losing his House primary too.
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« Reply #791 on: June 08, 2021, 06:25:35 PM »

Lee Carter is losing his House primary too.

Wait, candidates in Virginia can run for two offices at once? Carter is allowed to run for Governor and reelection at the same time? I didn't realize that.
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« Reply #792 on: June 08, 2021, 06:29:47 PM »

Lee Carter is losing his House primary too.

Wait, candidates in Virginia can run for two offices at once? Carter is allowed to run for Governor and reelection at the same time? I didn't realize that.

Apparently so.  Looks like Rasoul is also running for re-election to his HOD seat (he’s uncontested).
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« Reply #793 on: June 08, 2021, 06:31:07 PM »

Lee Carter is losing his House primary too.

Wait, candidates in Virginia can run for two offices at once? Carter is allowed to run for Governor and reelection at the same time? I didn't realize that.

A lot of states have laws like that, in SC Powers-Norell ran for Lt. Gov and lost but was still a house member
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« Reply #794 on: June 08, 2021, 06:31:13 PM »

Rasoul is close to Ayala in Loudoun and Arlington. Washington Post endorsement can do a lot in NoVA.
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« Reply #795 on: June 08, 2021, 06:32:07 PM »

Lee Carter is losing his House primary too.

Hmm Delicious
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« Reply #796 on: June 08, 2021, 06:33:56 PM »

I'll be curious if anyone other than TMac wins a county
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« Reply #797 on: June 08, 2021, 06:34:01 PM »

Lee Carter is losing his House primary too.

Wait, candidates in Virginia can run for two offices at once? Carter is allowed to run for Governor and reelection at the same time? I didn't realize that.

Apparently so.  Looks like Rasoul is also running for re-election to his HOD seat (he’s uncontested).

I just looked it up, I guess Mark Levine and Jay Jones are also running for reelection to the House of Delegates. That's interesting.
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« Reply #798 on: June 08, 2021, 06:35:50 PM »

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« Reply #799 on: June 08, 2021, 06:37:36 PM »



That seems premature,

Also interesting how the Lt Gov map is split east/west
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