FL-SEN 2022: Nothing to see here

[Calthrina950]

Bc she's basically the antithesis (or closest) of a Democratic candidate could be to the GOP's talking points (defund the police, socialism, etc.)

Err.... Val Demings is a reliable liberal and literally served as House impeachment manager in Trump's impeachment trial. She’s very easy to paint as some out-of-touch partisan and would have close to zero crossover appeal in a GE. The idea that Republicans won’t be able to paint her as a career politician who embodies "GOP talking points" is ludicrous.

The only worthwhile attack the GOP has right now that made a difference was socialism and crime, not really 'career politician'. And Demings is clearly not a socialist, and her police record shows you can't hit her on crime, really.

To say she has 'zero crossover appeal' in the GE is ridiculous

Demings is probably one of the better possible candidates who Democrats could nominate, but after seeing how Florida voted in 2018 and 2020, and taking into consideration that next year will be a Democratic midterm and that Rubio is a relatively popular incumbent, I'm still not sure how she's going to find the votes for victory. This race is Lean/Likely R.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Bc she's basically the antithesis (or closest) of a Democratic candidate could be to the GOP's talking points (defund the police, socialism, etc.)

Err.... Val Demings is a reliable liberal and literally served as House impeachment manager in Trump's impeachment trial. She’s very easy to paint as some out-of-touch partisan and would have close to zero crossover appeal in a GE. The idea that Republicans won’t be able to paint her as a career politician who embodies "GOP talking points" is ludicrous.

The only worthwhile attack the GOP has right now that made a difference was socialism and crime, not really 'career politician'. And Demings is clearly not a socialist, and her police record shows you can't hit her on crime, really.

To say she has 'zero crossover appeal' in the GE is ridiculous

There is a difference between what she does in Orlando and what she does in Congress.

Biden has a 60% RV Approvals, he didn't have that Approvals when he was running as a candidate and we lost FL by 3%, those are Approvals that Trump can only dream, the same Approvals Bush W had in 2002/ when Rs netted seats after 9/11

[UWS]

Bc she's basically the antithesis (or closest) of a Democratic candidate could be to the GOP's talking points (defund the police, socialism, etc.)

Err.... Val Demings is a reliable liberal and literally served as House impeachment manager in Trump's impeachment trial. She’s very easy to paint as some out-of-touch partisan and would have close to zero crossover appeal in a GE. The idea that Republicans won’t be able to paint her as a career politician who embodies "GOP talking points" is ludicrous.

The only worthwhile attack the GOP has right now that made a difference was socialism and crime, not really 'career politician'. And Demings is clearly not a socialist, and her police record shows you can't hit her on crime, really.

To say she has 'zero crossover appeal' in the GE is ridiculous

There is a difference between what she does in Orlando and what she does in Congress.

Biden has a 60% RV Approvals, he didn't have that Approvals when he was running as a candidate and we lost FL by 3%, those are Approvals that Trump can only dream, the same Approvals Bush W had in 2002/ when Rs netted seats after 9/11

That 60 % is nationwide, not statewide. And actually, Biden has an approval rating of just 45 % in Florida.

https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles/biden-approval-rating.php

So I'm sorry to tell you this : Florida is not Massachusetts.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Bc she's basically the antithesis (or closest) of a Democratic candidate could be to the GOP's talking points (defund the police, socialism, etc.)

Err.... Val Demings is a reliable liberal and literally served as House impeachment manager in Trump's impeachment trial. She’s very easy to paint as some out-of-touch partisan and would have close to zero crossover appeal in a GE. The idea that Republicans won’t be able to paint her as a career politician who embodies "GOP talking points" is ludicrous.

The only worthwhile attack the GOP has right now that made a difference was socialism and crime, not really 'career politician'. And Demings is clearly not a socialist, and her police record shows you can't hit her on crime, really.

To say she has 'zero crossover appeal' in the GE is ridiculous

There is a difference between what she does in Orlando and what she does in Congress.

Biden has a 60% RV Approvals, he didn't have that Approvals when he was running as a candidate and we lost FL by 3%, those are Approvals that Trump can only dream, the same Approvals Bush W had in 2002/ when Rs netted seats after 9/11

That 60 % is nationwide, not statewide. And actually, Biden has an approval rating of just 45 % in Florida.

https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles/biden-approval-rating.php

So I'm sorry to tell you this : Florida is not Massachusetts.

The Election is 500 days from now and we haven't seen one Sen poll in FL

[UWS]

Bc she's basically the antithesis (or closest) of a Democratic candidate could be to the GOP's talking points (defund the police, socialism, etc.)

Err.... Val Demings is a reliable liberal and literally served as House impeachment manager in Trump's impeachment trial. She’s very easy to paint as some out-of-touch partisan and would have close to zero crossover appeal in a GE. The idea that Republicans won’t be able to paint her as a career politician who embodies "GOP talking points" is ludicrous.

The only worthwhile attack the GOP has right now that made a difference was socialism and crime, not really 'career politician'. And Demings is clearly not a socialist, and her police record shows you can't hit her on crime, really.

To say she has 'zero crossover appeal' in the GE is ridiculous

There is a difference between what she does in Orlando and what she does in Congress.

Biden has a 60% RV Approvals, he didn't have that Approvals when he was running as a candidate and we lost FL by 3%, those are Approvals that Trump can only dream, the same Approvals Bush W had in 2002/ when Rs netted seats after 9/11

That 60 % is nationwide, not statewide. And actually, Biden has an approval rating of just 45 % in Florida.

https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles/biden-approval-rating.php

So I'm sorry to tell you this : Florida is not Massachusetts.

The Election is 500 days from now and we haven't seen one Sen poll in FL

Yes there has been one. Though it didn't include Demings, it showed Rubio beating  Stephanie Murphy by 10. And Murphy likely would have been a stronger candidate than Demings. So if Murphy couldn't beat Rubio in a poll, how can we expect Demings to do so?

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/428393-sunburn-the-morning-read-of-whats-hot-in-florida-politics-5-14-21/

[brucejoel99]

I'm honestly undecided between her & Russell in the primary, & I'm interested to see more of what he may - or, more likely, may not - have to offer, but it's not like that actually matters, since she'll obviously be comfortably winning it anyway. In any event, it's not like she actually stands a chance in the general, but she'll still have my vote there too.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The Election is 500 days away

[libertpaulian]

Bc she's basically the antithesis (or closest) of a Democratic candidate could be to the GOP's talking points (defund the police, socialism, etc.)

Err.... Val Demings is a reliable liberal and literally served as House impeachment manager in Trump's impeachment trial. She’s very easy to paint as some out-of-touch partisan and would have close to zero crossover appeal in a GE. The idea that Republicans won’t be able to paint her as a career politician who embodies "GOP talking points" is ludicrous.

The only worthwhile attack the GOP has right now that made a difference was socialism and crime, not really 'career politician'. And Demings is clearly not a socialist, and her police record shows you can't hit her on crime, really.

To say she has 'zero crossover appeal' in the GE is ridiculous

There is a difference between what she does in Orlando and what she does in Congress.

Biden has a 60% RV Approvals, he didn't have that Approvals when he was running as a candidate and we lost FL by 3%, those are Approvals that Trump can only dream, the same Approvals Bush W had in 2002/ when Rs netted seats after 9/11

That 60 % is nationwide, not statewide. And actually, Biden has an approval rating of just 45 % in Florida.

https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles/biden-approval-rating.php

So I'm sorry to tell you this : Florida is not Massachusetts.

The Election is 500 days from now and we haven't seen one Sen poll in FL

Yes there has been one. Though it didn't include Demings, it showed Rubio beating  Stephanie Murphy by 10. And Murphy likely would have been a stronger candidate than Demings. So if Murphy couldn't beat Rubio in a poll, how can we expect Demings to do so?

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/428393-sunburn-the-morning-read-of-whats-hot-in-florida-politics-5-14-21/

Demings will drive strong black turnout.  Plus, she might be moderate enough to appeal to SEFL Latinos, and her law-and-order credentials will keep her from getting destroyed by white voters.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Election in midtlterms don't always go the way they should like in Prez Elections, they can go different ways as we see Biden have very high Approvals but Rust belt Hassan abs Whitmer are trailing

[UWS]

Bc she's basically the antithesis (or closest) of a Democratic candidate could be to the GOP's talking points (defund the police, socialism, etc.)

Err.... Val Demings is a reliable liberal and literally served as House impeachment manager in Trump's impeachment trial. She’s very easy to paint as some out-of-touch partisan and would have close to zero crossover appeal in a GE. The idea that Republicans won’t be able to paint her as a career politician who embodies "GOP talking points" is ludicrous.

The only worthwhile attack the GOP has right now that made a difference was socialism and crime, not really 'career politician'. And Demings is clearly not a socialist, and her police record shows you can't hit her on crime, really.

To say she has 'zero crossover appeal' in the GE is ridiculous

There is a difference between what she does in Orlando and what she does in Congress.

Biden has a 60% RV Approvals, he didn't have that Approvals when he was running as a candidate and we lost FL by 3%, those are Approvals that Trump can only dream, the same Approvals Bush W had in 2002/ when Rs netted seats after 9/11

That 60 % is nationwide, not statewide. And actually, Biden has an approval rating of just 45 % in Florida.

https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles/biden-approval-rating.php

So I'm sorry to tell you this : Florida is not Massachusetts.

The Election is 500 days from now and we haven't seen one Sen poll in FL

Yes there has been one. Though it didn't include Demings, it showed Rubio beating  Stephanie Murphy by 10. And Murphy likely would have been a stronger candidate than Demings. So if Murphy couldn't beat Rubio in a poll, how can we expect Demings to do so?

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/428393-sunburn-the-morning-read-of-whats-hot-in-florida-politics-5-14-21/

Demings will drive strong black turnout.  Plus, she might be moderate enough to appeal to SEFL Latinos, and her law-and-order credentials will keep her from getting destroyed by white voters.

Romney's business experience and credentials haven't been enough neither to win the Republican nomination in 2008 (as McCain was more trusted than Romney by primary voters who selected the economy as the most important issue) nor to defeat Obama in a time of economic sluggish, stagnation and uncetainty in 2012.

And Demings' attempts to appeal among Hispanic voters will be undermined by her vote in favor of Kate's Law. In addition, the Iranian Navy has recently sent two ships to cross the Atlantic apparently to reach Venezuela. There are only two reasons why an Iranian warship would travel half a world away to make a port call in Venezuela : to deliver military cargo they have sold to Maduro’s socialist regime or to test the U.S. by conducting military exercises with the Maduro regime. Of course that is not news that Iran is the world's state-sponsor but it also indicates how much Maduro's regime is a threat.

https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2017/06/30/stephanie-murphy-and-val-demings-just-voted-for-an-incredibly-terrible-anti-immigration-bill

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/02/iranian-navy-ships-atlantic-by-thursday-491600

https://www.businessinsider.com/iranian-navy-ships-nearing-atlantic-us-provocation-biden-report-2021-6

Yet, Demings supports the Iran Nuclear deal that handed billions of dollars to a country that is the world’s largest sponsor of terror but also deals with countries threatening our national security interests like the Maduro's socialist regime. That will likely cost Demings the Venezuelan-American vote in Florida, especially in crucial areas like Miami and Tampa (both areas that have a significant population of Venezuelan Americans) and I wouldn't be surprised if Republicans run ads both in English and Spanish attacking Demings on that just like Venezuelan-American voters were a factor of the improvement of Trump's showing in Florida as Trump's handling of the Maduro threat turned an important share of Venezuela Americans into Republicans.

https://nacla.org/venezuelan-american-trump-voters

That explains why postmortem in Democratic strongholds like Doral, the city with the largest Venezuelan-born population in the country, showed a 41.4 percent swing toward Trump. In fact, Trump eked out a 1.4 percent win in the city in 2020 after having lost by 40 percent to Hillary Clinton in 2016 when she obtained 52 percent of the votes.

https://www.miamiherald.com/article246978452.html

[One Term Floridian]

DeSantis isn't loosing with Rubio it was only close in 2018 because Rick Scott not Rubio was on the ballot and Scott is a target in 2024

DeSantis gave 1000 cheques

This is one of the few times where I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you’re right

[2016]

Bc she's basically the antithesis (or closest) of a Democratic candidate could be to the GOP's talking points (defund the police, socialism, etc.)

Err.... Val Demings is a reliable liberal and literally served as House impeachment manager in Trump's impeachment trial. She’s very easy to paint as some out-of-touch partisan and would have close to zero crossover appeal in a GE. The idea that Republicans won’t be able to paint her as a career politician who embodies "GOP talking points" is ludicrous.

The only worthwhile attack the GOP has right now that made a difference was socialism and crime, not really 'career politician'. And Demings is clearly not a socialist, and her police record shows you can't hit her on crime, really.

To say she has 'zero crossover appeal' in the GE is ridiculous

There is a difference between what she does in Orlando and what she does in Congress.

Biden has a 60% RV Approvals, he didn't have that Approvals when he was running as a candidate and we lost FL by 3%, those are Approvals that Trump can only dream, the same Approvals Bush W had in 2002/ when Rs netted seats after 9/11

That 60 % is nationwide, not statewide. And actually, Biden has an approval rating of just 45 % in Florida.

https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles/biden-approval-rating.php

So I'm sorry to tell you this : Florida is not Massachusetts.

The Election is 500 days from now and we haven't seen one Sen poll in FL

Yes there has been one. Though it didn't include Demings, it showed Rubio beating  Stephanie Murphy by 10. And Murphy likely would have been a stronger candidate than Demings. So if Murphy couldn't beat Rubio in a poll, how can we expect Demings to do so?

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/428393-sunburn-the-morning-read-of-whats-hot-in-florida-politics-5-14-21/

Demings will drive strong black turnout.  Plus, she might be moderate enough to appeal to SEFL Latinos, and her law-and-order credentials will keep her from getting destroyed by white voters.

Demings is a Career Politician unlike Andrew Gillum who was a new fresh voice for Florida back in 2018!

I seriously doubt Demings will excite Floridas African Americans the same way Barack Obama and Andrew Gillum did!

Biden did not get Obamas Black Turnout in FL in 2020 and neither did Hillary in 2016.

[Pollster]

For me, the most compelling part of Demings' announcement video was the inclusion of the clip of Christie stabbing Rubio in the Presidential debate. If she's able to tie Christie's (very well done) narrative into this campaign without falling victim to similar attacks herself, I think this could wind up being a closer race than the conventional wisdom here seems to think (though Rubio is still favored).

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I am optimistic about this race, the Economy is opening up and we can win in a blue wave

[GALeftist]

How can you vote 100 % of the time with Nancy Pelosi ... and not be a socialist?

Because Nancy Pelosi is not a socialist. Hope this helps

[Amanda Huggenkiss]

How can you vote 100 % of the time with Nancy Pelosi ... and not be a socialist?

Because Nancy Pelosi is not a socialist. Hope this helps

If only...

But well, not surprising to see that Talk election's Rubio Fanboy #1 uncritically swallows all talking points the GOP serves him, which are not constrained to but include throwing around the word 'socialism' without having any idea of political ideologies and political philosophy.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

How can you vote 100 % of the time with Nancy Pelosi ... and not be a socialist?

Because Nancy Pelosi is not a socialist. Hope this helps

Jesus, I had him on ignore before I saw that post, but that's incredible.

[TrumpBritt24]

Go Marco!

[UWS]

How can you vote 100 % of the time with Nancy Pelosi ... and not be a socialist?

Because Nancy Pelosi is not a socialist. Hope this helps

You neglected the fact that Demings voted 94 % of the time with the Squad that includes notably Alexandria Occasio-Cortez who is a socialist. That’s why she supported the Green New Deal co-sponsored by AOC and Kamala Harris despite the fact that Florida has the 9th highest gas taxes and we’re seeing a rise of national gas taxes at the highest rate since 2014, a situation that can only worsen with Biden’s decision to stop oil drilling in ANWR and we don’t need to add to that problem through a deal that would cost $2 trillion, ban fracking and abolish fossil fuel.

[Progressive Pessimist]

How can you vote 100 % of the time with Nancy Pelosi ... and not be a socialist?

Because Nancy Pelosi is not a socialist. Hope this helps

She voted 94 % of the time with the Squad that includes notably AOC who is a socialist.

So by that logic, every Republican voting with Marjorie Taylor-Greene against the infrastructure bill makes them all QAnon believers.

[UWS]

Hispanic voters, that are key to victory in Florida, are becoming Republican as we saw recently in McAllen, Texas in a city that has an 85 % Hispanic population in a county that voted 58 % Biden and they elected a Republican mayor. That is mainly because of Hispanics’ opposition to socialism and support to free enterprise and because of the problems caused by the current border crisis. And that's why Hispanic voters will help put Rubio over the top

[2016]

How can you vote 100 % of the time with Nancy Pelosi ... and not be a socialist?

Because Nancy Pelosi is not a socialist. Hope this helps

She is! Are you kidding us or what? The whole Democratic Congressional Agenda is the Agenda of radicals. They want to make the inclusive United States of America like any other European Country which is totally wrong. The USA is still a Center-Right Country!

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

This is hilarious thread Rs think that D's never won FL and D's act like Rs never won MI, states can vote different ways in Midterm, Synder won MI and Biden and Obama won FL, both are battleground states in 2008/2012 and are battleground in 2022/2024

[S019]

Hispanic voters, that are key to victory in Florida, are becoming Republican as we saw recently in McAllen, Texas in a city that has an 85 % Hispanic population in a county that voted 58 % Biden and they elected a Republican mayor. That is mainly because of Hispanics’ opposition to socialism and support to free enterprise and because of the problems caused by the current border crisis. And that's why Hispanic voters will help put Rubio over the top

You're seriously going to unironically use a low turnout (12%) Saturday election in another state, in a part of said state that is infamous for low turnout even in regular elections, as part of a serious argument? Come on, you're better than this.


Meanwhile in actual news:

https://twitter.com/jmartnyt/status/1403119295794720769?s=21

[Pink Panther]

Hispanic voters, that are key to victory in Florida, are becoming Republican as we saw recently in McAllen, Texas in a city that has an 85 % Hispanic population in a county that voted 58 % Biden and they elected a Republican mayor. That is mainly because of Hispanics’ opposition to socialism and support to free enterprise and because of the problems caused by the current border crisis. And that's why Hispanic voters will help put Rubio over the top

You're seriously going to unironically use a low turnout (12%) Saturday election in another state, in a part of said state that is infamous for low turnout even in regular elections, as part of a serious argument? Come on, you're better than this.


Meanwhile in actual news:

https://twitter.com/jmartnyt/status/1403119295794720769?s=21

Good fundraising number, but this is probably another case of Dem donors misplacing their funds again, like they always do.