Would any of theses have defeated Trump 2: People of more note.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Previously I asked if any of the true dead-zone candidates would win against Trump. Now I'm giving it to the candidates who managed to be a little more competent, or that I forgot about last time.

Would any of them have won?

(Also, did I forget anyone other than the ones I intentionally avoided like Pete, Sanders, Harris, Klobuchar, and Warren?)

[Non Swing Voter]

Only Yang or Bloomberg.

Maaaaybe Inslee.  Everyone else no.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Bumping for good measure.

[Alben Barkley]

None of them except maybe Bloomberg but honestly not even sure about that. Might have won Florida though.

[prag_prog]

None of them would have defeated Trump. After spending more time looking at the results, I am even more convinced that Biden was the only one among major Dem primary candidates who can/did defeat Trump. Major factor behind Biden's win are relatively big gains he made in suburbs and with College Educated Whites. That's what won him PA, GA, WA, MN. Someone like Warren or Sanders or even anyone who is perceived to be left of Biden wouldn't have made the gains Biden made in suburbs or stop the bleeding in rurals.

[Alben Barkley]

None of them would have defeated Trump. After spending more time looking at the results, I am even more convinced that Biden was the only one among major Dem primary candidates who can/did defeat Trump. Major factor behind Biden's win are relatively big gains he made in suburbs and with College Educated Whites. That's what won him PA, GA, WA, MN. Someone like Warren or Sanders or even anyone who is perceived to be left of Biden wouldn't have made the gains Biden made in suburbs or stop the bleeding in rurals.

Could Bloomberg possibly have, maybe? Certainly it would be laughable to try to paint him as a “socialist,” even moreso than Biden, which is why I say he may have had a better chance in Florida. From there he just needs to flip probably one more state — Michigan, Arizona, etc. — and he wins. I do agree Biden was the best choice in the end, and may well have been THE only one (especially because he does seem to have stopped the bleeding in places I’m not sure Bloomberg could have), but if anyone else could have won, maybe Bloomberg? For different reasons if so though. His bigger problem I think would have been lack of charisma and likability compared to Joe.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

Marianne Williamson, Tulsi Gabbard, Andrew Yang, and Mike Bloomberg are all fringe, deeply flawed candidates who could never have won the Dem nomination, let along the GE.

Beto I'm iffy on.

The others, I think could be dressed up as a sensible alternative to Trump, just as Biden was.

[prag_prog]

None of them would have defeated Trump. After spending more time looking at the results, I am even more convinced that Biden was the only one among major Dem primary candidates who can/did defeat Trump. Major factor behind Biden's win are relatively big gains he made in suburbs and with College Educated Whites. That's what won him PA, GA, WA, MN. Someone like Warren or Sanders or even anyone who is perceived to be left of Biden wouldn't have made the gains Biden made in suburbs or stop the bleeding in rurals.

Could Bloomberg possibly have, maybe? Certainly it would be laughable to try to paint him as a “socialist,” even moreso than Biden, which is why I say he may have had a better chance in Florida. From there he just needs to flip probably one more state — Michigan, Arizona, etc. — and he wins. I do agree Biden was the best choice in the end, and may well have been THE only one (especially because he does seem to have stopped the bleeding in places I’m not sure Bloomberg could have), but if anyone else could have won, maybe Bloomberg? For different reasons if so though. His bigger problem I think would have been lack of charisma and likability compared to Joe.

Problem with Bloomberg is that he has zero charisma and his favorables took a big hit after that debate. He wasn't even that popular among Dem base after that debate. He likely would have done worse than Biden with young voters & Black voters. Biden was able to consolidate left quickly after primary (partly thanks to Bernie-Biden being good friends)...I don't think the same would have happened with Bloomberg.

I also don't think he would have done better than Biden in the debates vs Trump.

[Liberalrocks]

LOL at including Marianne Williamson.

[Skill and Chance]

Only Yang or Bloomberg.

Maaaaybe Inslee.  Everyone else no.

Inslee's problem is he would waste a ridiculous number of votes on the West Coast in a close election.  I think western PA would be scared enough to flip the state.  He might be sitting on exactly 270 with a bigger win in AZ and a PV margin 2% higher than Biden's? 

[7,052,770]

It depends on why they got the nomination.

Like, if Tom Steyer had been more effective at communicating his message that he was able to get enough delegates, he probably would have won in November too. But the Tom Steyer in that scenario is not the Tom Steyer we saw in real life.

So is the scenario assuming that any of the above people campaigned better in the primaries, or that just a massive string of luck and coincidences thrust them to the nomination despite not actually being different than real life?

[SN2903]

NOTA. The media manipulation of public opinion helped Biden the most because he was seen as the most "moderate."

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Yang would have the best chance, followed by Tulsi and Booker. I'm not sure any of them would have managed it though.

Bloomberg and Inslee would both do terribly: Bloomberg would do worse than Biden simultaneously among leftists, blacks and WWC.  Inslee would be much easier to portray as far-left than Biden was, and is less relatable personally.

[Ferguson97]

None of them.

[bagelman]

Bloomberg paid felon's fine so they could vote Trump. He loses.

Inslee was good enough I think. Yang is the only one who could win over the IQ <95 dudebro vote.

[Horus]

Yang and maybe Williamson.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

Yang and Gabbard would be odds-on. I'd assume otherwise for the rest in 2020, although Inslee could become a much stronger candidate in 2024 on the basis of being the first Governor to successfully implement a public option.

[KaiserDave]

Bloomberg would get slapped.

[dw93]

Inslee might've been able to without the riots, but because they happened, he'd be painted as Mike Dukakis 2.0. The rest would lose easily.