NH-SEN 2022 Megathread: General Dysfunction

[Brother Jonathan]

GOP needs to stop Bolduc but he has a ton of endorsements. I don't see how they stop him

If you are going off the Wikipedia list, I would just note that a lot (maybe just about all) of those are from his 2020 campaign and actually haven't been made in this race. Most of the links lead to an error page. I have been meaning to edit that actually.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Hassan is against Biden and his Title 42 policy, Biden Approvals are torrid and he won't visit the Border

[NewYorkExpress]

Hassan comes out against the Biden Adminstration's plan to end title 42, goes to the U.S-Mexico border.

Her home state shares a border with Canada. So when New Hampshire Sen. Maggie Hassan recently showed up more than 2,000 miles away, at the U.S border with Mexico, it created a backlash.

Not just among Republicans — who mocked her as ‘MAGA Maggie’ and dismissed her appearances in Texas and Arizona as a desperate attempt to appear tough on border security — but within her own party. Latino leaders reacted with rage to her southern border visit in early April and her opposition to the Biden administration’s plan to lift the Trump-era border restriction known as Title 42.


Members of the New Hampshire Democratic Latino Caucus resigned from their party leadership posts in an angry public letter. A Democratic state lawmaker took to the House floor to rail against Hassan and Rep. Chris Pappas (D-N.H.), who also opposes the administration’s effort to end Title 42. More than a dozen progressives and immigration advocates gathered in Portsmouth Tuesday — the same day President Joe Biden was visiting the city — to protest Hassan’s stance and demand that she meet with them.


The fierce pushback is a glimpse into the volatile politics surrounding Title 42 and the pressures buffeting vulnerable swing-state senators like Hassan — one of four Democratic incumbents whose fate in November will likely determine control of the Senate.

[SnowLabrador]

Hassan reminds me a lot of Claire McCaskill. She's pivoting to the right for no reason. She's going to lose.

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

Hassan comes out against the Biden Adminstration's plan to end title 42, goes to the U.S-Mexico border.

Her home state shares a border with Canada. So when New Hampshire Sen. Maggie Hassan recently showed up more than 2,000 miles away, at the U.S border with Mexico, it created a backlash.

Not just among Republicans — who mocked her as ‘MAGA Maggie’ and dismissed her appearances in Texas and Arizona as a desperate attempt to appear tough on border security — but within her own party. Latino leaders reacted with rage to her southern border visit in early April and her opposition to the Biden administration’s plan to lift the Trump-era border restriction known as Title 42.


Members of the New Hampshire Democratic Latino Caucus resigned from their party leadership posts in an angry public letter. A Democratic state lawmaker took to the House floor to rail against Hassan and Rep. Chris Pappas (D-N.H.), who also opposes the administration’s effort to end Title 42. More than a dozen progressives and immigration advocates gathered in Portsmouth Tuesday — the same day President Joe Biden was visiting the city — to protest Hassan’s stance and demand that she meet with them.


The fierce pushback is a glimpse into the volatile politics surrounding Title 42 and the pressures buffeting vulnerable swing-state senators like Hassan — one of four Democratic incumbents whose fate in November will likely determine control of the Senate.

Let these activists cry and cry some more. Believe it or not, but there are people who support when dems stand up to the loonies. Good on Maggie for having some common sense.

[2016]

Hassan comes out against the Biden Adminstration's plan to end title 42, goes to the U.S-Mexico border.

Her home state shares a border with Canada. So when New Hampshire Sen. Maggie Hassan recently showed up more than 2,000 miles away, at the U.S border with Mexico, it created a backlash.

Not just among Republicans — who mocked her as ‘MAGA Maggie’ and dismissed her appearances in Texas and Arizona as a desperate attempt to appear tough on border security — but within her own party. Latino leaders reacted with rage to her southern border visit in early April and her opposition to the Biden administration’s plan to lift the Trump-era border restriction known as Title 42.


Members of the New Hampshire Democratic Latino Caucus resigned from their party leadership posts in an angry public letter. A Democratic state lawmaker took to the House floor to rail against Hassan and Rep. Chris Pappas (D-N.H.), who also opposes the administration’s effort to end Title 42. More than a dozen progressives and immigration advocates gathered in Portsmouth Tuesday — the same day President Joe Biden was visiting the city — to protest Hassan’s stance and demand that she meet with them.


The fierce pushback is a glimpse into the volatile politics surrounding Title 42 and the pressures buffeting vulnerable swing-state senators like Hassan — one of four Democratic incumbents whose fate in November will likely determine control of the Senate.

Let these activists cry and cry some more. Believe it or not, but there are people who support when dems stand up to the loonies. Good on Maggie for having some common sense.

I just don't think that is going to safe her. New Hampshire is very much a State that is dependend on the National Environment. If Bidens Approvals are below 40ties as they are right now she is likely going to lose.

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

Hassan comes out against the Biden Adminstration's plan to end title 42, goes to the U.S-Mexico border.

Her home state shares a border with Canada. So when New Hampshire Sen. Maggie Hassan recently showed up more than 2,000 miles away, at the U.S border with Mexico, it created a backlash.

Not just among Republicans — who mocked her as ‘MAGA Maggie’ and dismissed her appearances in Texas and Arizona as a desperate attempt to appear tough on border security — but within her own party. Latino leaders reacted with rage to her southern border visit in early April and her opposition to the Biden administration’s plan to lift the Trump-era border restriction known as Title 42.


Members of the New Hampshire Democratic Latino Caucus resigned from their party leadership posts in an angry public letter. A Democratic state lawmaker took to the House floor to rail against Hassan and Rep. Chris Pappas (D-N.H.), who also opposes the administration’s effort to end Title 42. More than a dozen progressives and immigration advocates gathered in Portsmouth Tuesday — the same day President Joe Biden was visiting the city — to protest Hassan’s stance and demand that she meet with them.


The fierce pushback is a glimpse into the volatile politics surrounding Title 42 and the pressures buffeting vulnerable swing-state senators like Hassan — one of four Democratic incumbents whose fate in November will likely determine control of the Senate.

Let these activists cry and cry some more. Believe it or not, but there are people who support when dems stand up to the loonies. Good on Maggie for having some common sense.

I just don't think that is going to safe her. New Hampshire is very much a State that is dependend on the National Environment. If Bidens Approvals are below 40ties as they are right now she is likely going to lose.

I don’t even care about the electoral implications — this is simply the common sense position to hold. This wouldn’t even be controversial 12 years ago. And articles like that Politico one are just a representation of how manipulating and insane the mainstream media is.

[Huey Long is a Republican]

Really interested in seeing how polling looks after Hassan did that move. Yeah, it'd help with some moderates and Independents but the question is if it'll be enough to offset depressed turnout from the progressive left in polls and the general. I currently have this race at Lean Hassan but anything could change that in the coming months.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Hassan is gonna win because it's only April and Approval don't mean anything in April it's seven months till the Election

[LAB-LIB]

Hassan comes out against the Biden Adminstration's plan to end title 42, goes to the U.S-Mexico border.

Her home state shares a border with Canada. So when New Hampshire Sen. Maggie Hassan recently showed up more than 2,000 miles away, at the U.S border with Mexico, it created a backlash.

Not just among Republicans — who mocked her as ‘MAGA Maggie’ and dismissed her appearances in Texas and Arizona as a desperate attempt to appear tough on border security — but within her own party. Latino leaders reacted with rage to her southern border visit in early April and her opposition to the Biden administration’s plan to lift the Trump-era border restriction known as Title 42.


Members of the New Hampshire Democratic Latino Caucus resigned from their party leadership posts in an angry public letter. A Democratic state lawmaker took to the House floor to rail against Hassan and Rep. Chris Pappas (D-N.H.), who also opposes the administration’s effort to end Title 42. More than a dozen progressives and immigration advocates gathered in Portsmouth Tuesday — the same day President Joe Biden was visiting the city — to protest Hassan’s stance and demand that she meet with them.


The fierce pushback is a glimpse into the volatile politics surrounding Title 42 and the pressures buffeting vulnerable swing-state senators like Hassan — one of four Democratic incumbents whose fate in November will likely determine control of the Senate.

"Liberal" Media: "Democrats need to move to the center!"
Democrat: Moves to the center
"Liberal" Media: "What the hell is she doing? How could she be so stupid?"

[free my dawg]

I'm still more concerned with her coming out against minimum wage reform for donorbux from the largest restaurant chain in the state, but go off.

[ProgressiveModerate]

I'm still more concerned with her coming out against minimum wage reform for donorbux from the largest restaurant chain in the state, but go off.

But muh NH is just a bunch of wealthy white folks who think Massachusetts is too liberal.

Honestly, Hassan's positions don't matter that much as long as they're not insane, it more has to do with her optics in a state like NH. As proven by recent elections, the VT/NH/ME trio are states where local politics and opinion can really matter.

Susan Collins didn't win in 2020 because of her policies; they're pretty similar to most national Rs, it's just her optics and legacy in the state gave her a massive boost. Hassan has the advantage of being a former governor, however, that can be a double edged sword sometimes.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Collins won because along with Olympia Snowe they were a Tag Team since the Gingrich Revolution and Hassan and Shaheen have positive Approvals the key is the Gov race where SUNUNU is favored but he always leads like Scott 70//30 it gets close in the Fall it will be 51/44% before it's all over with the Gov race and NH doesn't have a partisan R state legislature they have many females running it just like in MA females rub the state Legislature and in NV females dominant the state Legislature

[Ferguson97]

Hassan comes out against the Biden Adminstration's plan to end title 42, goes to the U.S-Mexico border.

Her home state shares a border with Canada. So when New Hampshire Sen. Maggie Hassan recently showed up more than 2,000 miles away, at the U.S border with Mexico, it created a backlash.

Not just among Republicans — who mocked her as ‘MAGA Maggie’ and dismissed her appearances in Texas and Arizona as a desperate attempt to appear tough on border security — but within her own party. Latino leaders reacted with rage to her southern border visit in early April and her opposition to the Biden administration’s plan to lift the Trump-era border restriction known as Title 42.


Members of the New Hampshire Democratic Latino Caucus resigned from their party leadership posts in an angry public letter. A Democratic state lawmaker took to the House floor to rail against Hassan and Rep. Chris Pappas (D-N.H.), who also opposes the administration’s effort to end Title 42. More than a dozen progressives and immigration advocates gathered in Portsmouth Tuesday — the same day President Joe Biden was visiting the city — to protest Hassan’s stance and demand that she meet with them.


The fierce pushback is a glimpse into the volatile politics surrounding Title 42 and the pressures buffeting vulnerable swing-state senators like Hassan — one of four Democratic incumbents whose fate in November will likely determine control of the Senate.

Let these activists cry and cry some more. Believe it or not, but there are people who support when dems stand up to the loonies. Good on Maggie for having some common sense.

I just don't think that is going to safe her. New Hampshire is very much a State that is dependend on the National Environment. If Bidens Approvals are below 40ties as they are right now she is likely going to lose.

I don’t even care about the electoral implications — this is simply the common sense position to hold. This wouldn’t even be controversial 12 years ago. And articles like that Politico one are just a representation of how manipulating and insane the mainstream media is.

How is it common sense? We have to end pandemic restrictions like Title 42.

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

Hassan comes out against the Biden Adminstration's plan to end title 42, goes to the U.S-Mexico border.

Her home state shares a border with Canada. So when New Hampshire Sen. Maggie Hassan recently showed up more than 2,000 miles away, at the U.S border with Mexico, it created a backlash.

Not just among Republicans — who mocked her as ‘MAGA Maggie’ and dismissed her appearances in Texas and Arizona as a desperate attempt to appear tough on border security — but within her own party. Latino leaders reacted with rage to her southern border visit in early April and her opposition to the Biden administration’s plan to lift the Trump-era border restriction known as Title 42.


Members of the New Hampshire Democratic Latino Caucus resigned from their party leadership posts in an angry public letter. A Democratic state lawmaker took to the House floor to rail against Hassan and Rep. Chris Pappas (D-N.H.), who also opposes the administration’s effort to end Title 42. More than a dozen progressives and immigration advocates gathered in Portsmouth Tuesday — the same day President Joe Biden was visiting the city — to protest Hassan’s stance and demand that she meet with them.


The fierce pushback is a glimpse into the volatile politics surrounding Title 42 and the pressures buffeting vulnerable swing-state senators like Hassan — one of four Democratic incumbents whose fate in November will likely determine control of the Senate.

Let these activists cry and cry some more. Believe it or not, but there are people who support when dems stand up to the loonies. Good on Maggie for having some common sense.

I just don't think that is going to safe her. New Hampshire is very much a State that is dependend on the National Environment. If Bidens Approvals are below 40ties as they are right now she is likely going to lose.

I don’t even care about the electoral implications — this is simply the common sense position to hold. This wouldn’t even be controversial 12 years ago. And articles like that Politico one are just a representation of how manipulating and insane the mainstream media is.

How is it common sense? We have to end pandemic restrictions like Title 42.

I think Title 42 can be allowed to expire as long as Trump’s Remain in Mexico policy is in place. But the Biden admin is seeking to overturn it.

[Brother Jonathan]

Starting to see the impact of the leaked SCOTUS opinion a bit in the Senate race now. Morse had a pretty measured statement

https://twitter.com/Morse4Senate/status/1521539749424603138?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoog...

Basically, a nod to the pro-life movement, but asserting that he supports abortion in the first six months of a pregnancy. Also noting that the decision will have no impact on NH. Probably a fairly decent line to take which I can't see antagonizing anyone too much.

Kevin Smith, on the other hand, was much more explicit in taking a pro-life line

https://twitter.com/kdonohoenh/status/1521635779533062149

Granted, it is a text to supporters, but of course that sort of thing always tends to get out. I will say, beyond the "we are so close to ending abortion one and for all," the actually talking points (i.e. supporting a ban on late term abortion while saying Hassan is an extremist on the issue) aren't that far off from Morse and would not be that bad, and the public messaging is mostly about late-term abortion.

I would tend to think it may not be the best strategy for a Republican to try and be on the offensive with this issue in NH, but then again this will probably be an attack from the Democrats throughout the campaign, so maybe getting out in front of it is the better call. But I think probably it's better to take the Morse approach and just sound sensible when the issue comes up, rather than risk mobilizing pro-choice voters against you when otherwise it might not be as big of an issue.

[I’m not Stu]

Starting to see the impact of the leaked SCOTUS opinion a bit in the Senate race now. Morse had a pretty measured statement


Basically, a nod to the pro-life movement, but asserting that he supports abortion in the first six months of a pregnancy. Also noting that the decision will have no impact on NH. Probably a fairly decent line to take which I can't see antagonizing anyone too much.

Kevin Smith, on the other hand, was much more explicit in taking a pro-life line

Granted, it is a text to supporters, but of course that sort of thing always tends to get out. I will say, beyond the "we are so close to ending abortion one and for all," the actually talking points (i.e. supporting a ban on late term abortion while saying Hassan is an extremist on the issue) aren't that far off from Morse and would not be that bad, and the public messaging is mostly about late-term abortion.

I would tend to think it may not be the best strategy for a Republican to try and be on the offensive with this issue in NH, but then again this will probably be an attack from the Democrats throughout the campaign, so maybe getting out in front of it is the better call. But I think probably it's better to take the Morse approach and just sound sensible when the issue comes up, rather than risk mobilizing pro-choice voters against you when otherwise it might not be as big of an issue.

How will Don Bolduc will react to this?

[Brother Jonathan]

Starting to see the impact of the leaked SCOTUS opinion a bit in the Senate race now. Morse had a pretty measured statement


Basically, a nod to the pro-life movement, but asserting that he supports abortion in the first six months of a pregnancy. Also noting that the decision will have no impact on NH. Probably a fairly decent line to take which I can't see antagonizing anyone too much.

Kevin Smith, on the other hand, was much more explicit in taking a pro-life line

Granted, it is a text to supporters, but of course that sort of thing always tends to get out. I will say, beyond the "we are so close to ending abortion one and for all," the actually talking points (i.e. supporting a ban on late term abortion while saying Hassan is an extremist on the issue) aren't that far off from Morse and would not be that bad, and the public messaging is mostly about late-term abortion.

I would tend to think it may not be the best strategy for a Republican to try and be on the offensive with this issue in NH, but then again this will probably be an attack from the Democrats throughout the campaign, so maybe getting out in front of it is the better call. But I think probably it's better to take the Morse approach and just sound sensible when the issue comes up, rather than risk mobilizing pro-choice voters against you when otherwise it might not be as big of an issue.

How will Don Bolduc will react to this?

He seemed to focus more on the leak than the decision, but basically said he agreed with the decision and supported the restrictions passed in NH recently. So nothing really odd.

[wbrocks67]

https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1541547062382104576

[Brother Jonathan]

Yeah, I have yet to watch that debate and I am frankly probably not going to just because I don't want to rip my hair out, but I mean from what I have seen it was rough for Morse, but Smith and Bolduc seemed to do okay. I did read the NH Journal (which is a right-wing source, but the debate analysis seemed fine), and the first part struck me a bit:

GOP primary voters who tuned in to see a Gordon Humphrey Republican, or a John McCain Republican — or even a Kelly Ayotte Republican — were sorely disappointed. Given the focus on their pro-life politics and concerns about the handling of the COVID-19 lockdown, it’s possible even Gov. Chris Sununu may not have been a good fit on that debate stage.

That last part is what should worry Republicans. Sununu is the only Republican to have won a statewide race since 2010, when Ayotte first won her Senate seat. So you would think that maybe Republicans would wonder what it is that he has done successfully that no other Republican has in a decade, but I do get the feeling that as the primary shapes up to be a real fight, the candidates are going to run a bit to the right. I'm willing to bet that Smith and Morse, and possibly even Bolduc, will move back a bit for the fall, but it might be too late. In any case I do not like the direction this race is going in for Republicans. (As someone who wrote-in Gordon Humphrey for Senate in 2020, that first part also stings a bit).

Also sounds like everyone thinks Morse is the frontrunner, since they were piling on him, and he did not manage that very well. I gather Smith did well and Bolduc exceeded expectations by staying on message (they went at each other a bit as well I guess). I may have to watch it but I don't really want to at this point since it sounds like a mess. At least it wasn't a WMUR debate or something, so I'm sure the viewership was limited and I doubt it will matter all that much, though a bunch of the candidates want even more debates and if this keeps happening then it might start to have some negative impacts.

[ProgressiveModerate]

Yeah, I have yet to watch that debate and I am frankly probably not going to just because I don't want to rip my hair out, but I mean from what I have seen it was rough for Morse, but Smith and Bolduc seemed to do okay. I did read the NH Journal (which is a right-wing source, but the debate analysis seemed fine), and the first part struck me a bit:

GOP primary voters who tuned in to see a Gordon Humphrey Republican, or a John McCain Republican — or even a Kelly Ayotte Republican — were sorely disappointed. Given the focus on their pro-life politics and concerns about the handling of the COVID-19 lockdown, it’s possible even Gov. Chris Sununu may not have been a good fit on that debate stage.

That last part is what should worry Republicans. Sununu is the only Republican to have won a statewide race since 2010, when Ayotte first won her Senate seat. So you would think that maybe Republicans would wonder what it is that he has done successfully that no other Republican has in a decade, but I do get the feeling that as the primary shapes up to be a real fight, the candidates are going to run a bit to the right. I'm willing to bet that Smith and Morse, and possibly even Bolduc, will move back a bit for the fall, but it might be too late. In any case I do not like the direction this race is going in for Republicans. (As someone who wrote-in Gordon Humphrey for Senate in 2020, that first part also stings a bit).

Also sounds like everyone thinks Morse is the frontrunner, since they were piling on him, and he did not manage that very well. I gather Smith did well and Bolduc exceeded expectations by staying on message (they went at each other a bit as well I guess). I may have to watch it but I don't really want to at this point since it sounds like a mess. At least it wasn't a WMUR debate or something, so I'm sure the viewership was limited and I doubt it will matter all that much, though a bunch of the candidates want even more debates and if this keeps happening then it might start to have some negative impacts.

I didn’t even realize Sununu was the only Republican to win statewide since 2010 but now that you mention it it seems true. There have been a lot of close calls but overall Dems tend to eek it out.

I think NH Rs overrrate how “populist” of a state NH is; half of the state is basically Massachusetts suburbs and exurbs where they have been losing ground and could still lose more if they don’t change.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It's a Midterm and party trends aren't the same as in Prez Elections we won OH, WV, AZ Sen and KS Gov and a bunch of NC H races and SUNUNU and Hogan won and almost won FL in 2018 and we didn't win 80M votes it was plus 8 GCB but we won 41H seats it's not just based on Senate polls

[Sir Mohamed]

https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1541547062382104576

Lean D -> Lean D

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Hassan is gonna win and SUNUNU is gonna win anyways

[free my dawg]

https://twitter.com/ChrisHartline/status/1513925909409054726?t=5lbGMYIMaAma13QGv...

MAGA Maggie's signature immigration policy, Remain in Mexico, has been overturned by the Bush Court. Does this doom her political fortunes for 2022?