Now that Biden has "won", remember this:

[Fuzzy Bear]

You just have to accept that Donald Trump was a bad President and a bad person, and he has paid the price for it.

I accept neither.

The only thing I accept at this point is that he lost the Popular Vote.

[Fuzzy Bear]

You just have to accept that Donald Trump was a bad President and a bad person, and he has paid the price for it.

I accept neither.

The only thing I accept at this point is that he lost the Popular Vote.

Good Presidents don’t lose re-election

Grover Cleveland, William Howard Taft, Herbert Hoover, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and George H. W. Bush were all "good Presidents".  They were not candidates for Mount Rushmore, but they weren't Hardings, Pierces, or Buchanans.  (Taft and Bush, arguably, would have won re-election were it not for significant third-party challenges.)

[Fuzzy Bear]

You just have to accept that Donald Trump was a bad President and a bad person, and he has paid the price for it.

I accept neither.

The only thing I accept at this point is that he lost the Popular Vote.

Good Presidents don’t lose re-election

Grover Cleveland, William Howard Taft, Herbert Hoover, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and George H. W. Bush were all "good Presidents".  They were not candidates for Mount Rushmore, but they weren't Hardings, Pierces, or Buchanans.  (Taft and Bush, arguably, would have won re-election were it not for significant third-party challenges.)

Herbert Hoover?

Hoover was not a bad President.  He was overwhelmed by the Depression, but he wasn't lost at his job.  He wasn't a Franklin Pierce or a James Buchanan.  He wasn't a Warren Harding (who was popular and who would have been re-elected in a landslide).

Had Hoover been elected in a different time he'd have been an outstanding President.  Indeed, if he had been President in the 1920s he would have curbed some of the free market excesses that led to the Stock Market crash of 1929.

[Fuzzy Bear]

You just have to accept that Donald Trump was a bad President and a bad person, and he has paid the price for it.

I accept neither.

The only thing I accept at this point is that he lost the Popular Vote.

Good Presidents don’t lose re-election

Grover Cleveland, William Howard Taft, Herbert Hoover, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and George H. W. Bush were all "good Presidents".  They were not candidates for Mount Rushmore, but they weren't Hardings, Pierces, or Buchanans.  (Taft and Bush, arguably, would have won re-election were it not for significant third-party challenges.)

Herbert Hoover?

Hoover was not a bad President.  He was overwhelmed by the Depression, but he wasn't lost at his job.  He wasn't a Franklin Pierce or a James Buchanan.  He wasn't a Warren Harding (who was popular and who would have been re-elected in a landslide).

Had Hoover been elected in a different time he'd have been an outstanding President.  Indeed, if he had been President in the 1920s he would have curbed some of the free market excesses that led to the Stock Market crash of 1929.

A good president can handle and adapt to the times they're elected in. A bad president cannot.

Donald Trump adapted to the times he was elected in excellently.  He resisted the ideas that had gained momentum in our society (Free Trade, interventionism) that were bad for our country.  He put forth a balanced response to COVID-19 that will be vindicated by history.  He stood for law and order at a time when his opponents were the ones actually "fanning the flames", encouraging BLM and Antifa criminality. 

Donald Trump accomplished record unemployment, a successful foreign policy (whose story seems to never be told) and he did it in the face of irrational opposition.  He allowed his persona to become the issue; that was his flaw, and that may have cost him a close election.  But in terms of policy, statecraft, and accomplishment, there was far more positive than negative.

https://tennesseestar.com/2020/11/03/victor-davis-hanson-commentary-donald-trump-counterrevolutionary/

Until Donald Trump’s arrival, the globalist revolution was almost solidified and institutionalized – with the United States increasingly its greatest and most “woke” advocate. We know its bipartisan establishment contours.

Until Trump’s arrival, Big Tech was three-quarters home on the road to Nineteen Eighty-Four. Five or six companies monopolized most American – and indeed the world’s – access and use of the internet. In cynical fashion, Silicon Valley grandees patronized naïve conservatives that they were the supposed embodiment of Milton Friedman libertarianism and 19th century robber baron daring. Yet to their leftist kindred, the moguls of Menlo Park simultaneously whispered, “Don’t worry about such necessary disinformation: we will enrich only your candidates, only your agendas, only your foundations, only your universities – in exchange for your exemptions.”

Until Trump’s arrival, there was increasingly no border at all. Fifty-million foreign-born resided, both legally and illegally, in the United States. Nearly a million annually walked northward across the border with ease and without legal sanction or invitation. To object to illegal immigration and decry its deleterious effects on the entry-level wages of our working poor, on the social safety net of the American needy, and on the sanctity of the law was to be smeared as racist, xenophobic, and nativist.

Until Trump, the American interior was loser country. In-between the two gilded coasts resided the deplorables, irredeemables, clingers, the smelly Walmart patrons decried in the Page-Strzok text echanges, those John McCain called “crazies,” and Joe Biden has variously called the “dregs,” the “chumps” and the “ugly folks.” They were written off as Morlocks, who were occasionally seen poking about the rotting, rusting skeletons of abandoned steel plants, and for some reason never had proper orthodontics as children.

The success of civil rights was not to be calibrated by black unemployment figures, household income, family businesses, dignity in having leverage over employers, access to competitive parochial and charter schools, or descending abortion rates, but in electing more activists as progressive mayors, liberal city councilmembers, and leftist district attorneys to garner more redistributive state money to hire more careerists like themselves.

Trump, branded a bigot and racist, for now has sought to end that revolution, and measure race relations not by how many minority elites have choice jobs and high incomes, but by how well the entire minority community reaches income and employment parity with the general population—an idea that will earn the “racist” Trump far greater minority support than was expressed for John McCain and Mitt Romney.

And Trump has stood firm against our Cultural Revolution, regardless of the odds.

Against all that money and clout, the counterrevolutionary Trump had only one asset, the proverbial people. He had solely the under-polled and the written-off. They came out to his rallies in the tens of thousands, deluded the pollsters, and told the media less than nothing, but voted and will vote in waves to save America from what it was becoming.

Donald Trump has more solid accomplishments against the most unreasoning opposition than any President in my lifetime, period.  Whether you like his accomplishments is another question.  I do like his accomplishments, and I like even more his resolve in standing against the enemies of our Constitutional Republic.  In many other eras, Trump would have been an unremarkable and mediocre President, but for THIS time, he was downright heroic.  He was, for many of us, a Godsend, in that he stood for OUR American Jobs, OUR Religious Freedom, when others undermined them, presented us with platitudes, and, when these failed to mollify us, called us names and told us to shut up and comply with their dictates.

And, as the cherry on the top of the Ice Cream Sundae, he did it while literally DOUBLING his share of the Black vote and significantly increasing the Republican share of the Hispanic Vote. 

How did THAT happen?  It happened because Donald Trump (A) is, actually, not a racist who (B) actually believes that Black and Hispanic folks are motivated by many of the same things the rest of us are:

Trump actually asked Blacks and Hispanics for their votes and appealed to them on the basis of self-interest.  Then he delivered on his promises in terms of producing greater prosperity for them.  In addition, he actually provided meaningful redress to issues relevant to these constituencies.  Criminal Justice reform, financial aid to HBCUs, are real concerns for these folks, and Trump did something constructive.  Blacks and Hispanics are not different from other folks; they reward people who deliver for them, and elected officials are rewarded with votes. 

I consider this a tremendous development, not just because it debunks the canard that Donald Trump is a "racist", but because it is a direct hit to the corrosive Identity Politics that has utterly poisoned our nation.  Blacks and Hispanics have, in their numbers, a larger than average number of Biblical Christians and an above-average number of entrepreneurs running their own businesses.  These folks have got to have some degree of disconnect with today's Democratic Party and its hostility toward both Biblical Christians (which is pretty overt) and small business (which manifests itself in policies they espouse).  I pray that we are, despite all that has transpired, taken steps to putting race and ethnicity aside to develop a politics based on what is best for the whole and for individuals and their families all around.  Donald Trump's Presidency brought this about.  This cannot be easily explained away and trivialized.

[Fuzzy Bear]

You just have to accept that Donald Trump was a bad President and a bad person, and he has paid the price for it.

I accept neither.

The only thing I accept at this point is that he lost the Popular Vote.

Good Presidents don’t lose re-election

Grover Cleveland, William Howard Taft, Herbert Hoover, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and George H. W. Bush were all "good Presidents".  They were not candidates for Mount Rushmore, but they weren't Hardings, Pierces, or Buchanans.  (Taft and Bush, arguably, would have won re-election were it not for significant third-party challenges.)

Herbert Hoover?

Hoover was not a bad President.  He was overwhelmed by the Depression, but he wasn't lost at his job.  He wasn't a Franklin Pierce or a James Buchanan.  He wasn't a Warren Harding (who was popular and who would have been re-elected in a landslide).

Had Hoover been elected in a different time he'd have been an outstanding President.  Indeed, if he had been President in the 1920s he would have curbed some of the free market excesses that led to the Stock Market crash of 1929.

A good president can handle and adapt to the times they're elected in. A bad president cannot.

Donald Trump adapted to the times he was elected in excellently.  He resisted the ideas that had gained momentum in our society (Free Trade, interventionism) that were bad for our country.  He put forth a balanced response to COVID-19 that will be vindicated by history.  He stood for law and order at a time when his opponents were the ones actually "fanning the flames", encouraging BLM and Antifa criminality. 

Donald Trump accomplished record unemployment, a successful foreign policy (whose story seems to never be told) and he did it in the face of irrational opposition.  He allowed his persona to become the issue; that was his flaw, and that may have cost him a close election.  But in terms of policy, statecraft, and accomplishment, there was far more positive than negative.

https://tennesseestar.com/2020/11/03/victor-davis-hanson-commentary-donald-trump-counterrevolutionary/

Until Donald Trump’s arrival, the globalist revolution was almost solidified and institutionalized – with the United States increasingly its greatest and most “woke” advocate. We know its bipartisan establishment contours.

Until Trump’s arrival, Big Tech was three-quarters home on the road to Nineteen Eighty-Four. Five or six companies monopolized most American – and indeed the world’s – access and use of the internet. In cynical fashion, Silicon Valley grandees patronized naïve conservatives that they were the supposed embodiment of Milton Friedman libertarianism and 19th century robber baron daring. Yet to their leftist kindred, the moguls of Menlo Park simultaneously whispered, “Don’t worry about such necessary disinformation: we will enrich only your candidates, only your agendas, only your foundations, only your universities – in exchange for your exemptions.”

Until Trump’s arrival, there was increasingly no border at all. Fifty-million foreign-born resided, both legally and illegally, in the United States. Nearly a million annually walked northward across the border with ease and without legal sanction or invitation. To object to illegal immigration and decry its deleterious effects on the entry-level wages of our working poor, on the social safety net of the American needy, and on the sanctity of the law was to be smeared as racist, xenophobic, and nativist.

Until Trump, the American interior was loser country. In-between the two gilded coasts resided the deplorables, irredeemables, clingers, the smelly Walmart patrons decried in the Page-Strzok text echanges, those John McCain called “crazies,” and Joe Biden has variously called the “dregs,” the “chumps” and the “ugly folks.” They were written off as Morlocks, who were occasionally seen poking about the rotting, rusting skeletons of abandoned steel plants, and for some reason never had proper orthodontics as children.

The success of civil rights was not to be calibrated by black unemployment figures, household income, family businesses, dignity in having leverage over employers, access to competitive parochial and charter schools, or descending abortion rates, but in electing more activists as progressive mayors, liberal city councilmembers, and leftist district attorneys to garner more redistributive state money to hire more careerists like themselves.

Trump, branded a bigot and racist, for now has sought to end that revolution, and measure race relations not by how many minority elites have choice jobs and high incomes, but by how well the entire minority community reaches income and employment parity with the general population—an idea that will earn the “racist” Trump far greater minority support than was expressed for John McCain and Mitt Romney.

And Trump has stood firm against our Cultural Revolution, regardless of the odds.

Against all that money and clout, the counterrevolutionary Trump had only one asset, the proverbial people. He had solely the under-polled and the written-off. They came out to his rallies in the tens of thousands, deluded the pollsters, and told the media less than nothing, but voted and will vote in waves to save America from what it was becoming.

Donald Trump has more solid accomplishments against the most unreasoning opposition than any President in my lifetime, period.  Whether you like his accomplishments is another question.  I do like his accomplishments, and I like even more his resolve in standing against the enemies of our Constitutional Republic.  In many other eras, Trump would have been an unremarkable and mediocre President, but for THIS time, he was downright heroic.  He was, for many of us, a Godsend, in that he stood for OUR American Jobs, OUR Religious Freedom, when others undermined them, presented us with platitudes, and, when these failed to mollify us, called us names and told us to shut up and comply with their dictates.

And, as the cherry on the top of the Ice Cream Sundae, he did it while literally DOUBLING his share of the Black vote and significantly increasing the Republican share of the Hispanic Vote. 

How did THAT happen?  It happened because Donald Trump (A) is, actually, not a racist who (B) actually believes that Black and Hispanic folks are motivated by many of the same things the rest of us are:

Trump actually asked Blacks and Hispanics for their votes and appealed to them on the basis of self-interest.  Then he delivered on his promises in terms of producing greater prosperity for them.  In addition, he actually provided meaningful redress to issues relevant to these constituencies.  Criminal Justice reform, financial aid to HBCUs, are real concerns for these folks, and Trump did something constructive.  Blacks and Hispanics are not different from other folks; they reward people who deliver for them, and elected officials are rewarded with votes. 

I consider this a tremendous development, not just because it debunks the canard that Donald Trump is a "racist", but because it is a direct hit to the corrosive Identity Politics that has utterly poisoned our nation.  Blacks and Hispanics have, in their numbers, a larger than average number of Biblical Christians and an above-average number of entrepreneurs running their own businesses.  These folks have got to have some degree of disconnect with today's Democratic Party and its hostility toward both Biblical Christians (which is pretty overt) and small business (which manifests itself in policies they espouse).  I pray that we are, despite all that has transpired, taken steps to putting race and ethnicity aside to develop a politics based on what is best for the whole and for individuals and their families all around.  Donald Trump's Presidency brought this about.  This cannot be easily explained away and trivialized.

Such an Effort Post, lol.

[Fuzzy Bear]

You just have to accept that Donald Trump was a bad President and a bad person, and he has paid the price for it.

I accept neither.

The only thing I accept at this point is that he lost the Popular Vote.

Good Presidents don’t lose re-election

Grover Cleveland, William Howard Taft, Herbert Hoover, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and George H. W. Bush were all "good Presidents".  They were not candidates for Mount Rushmore, but they weren't Hardings, Pierces, or Buchanans.  (Taft and Bush, arguably, would have won re-election were it not for significant third-party challenges.)

Herbert Hoover?

Hoover was not a bad President.  He was overwhelmed by the Depression, but he wasn't lost at his job.  He wasn't a Franklin Pierce or a James Buchanan.  He wasn't a Warren Harding (who was popular and who would have been re-elected in a landslide).

Had Hoover been elected in a different time he'd have been an outstanding President.  Indeed, if he had been President in the 1920s he would have curbed some of the free market excesses that led to the Stock Market crash of 1929.

A good president can handle and adapt to the times they're elected in. A bad president cannot.

Donald Trump adapted to the times he was elected in excellently.  He resisted the ideas that had gained momentum in our society (Free Trade, interventionism) that were bad for our country.  He put forth a balanced response to COVID-19 that will be vindicated by history.  He stood for law and order at a time when his opponents were the ones actually "fanning the flames", encouraging BLM and Antifa criminality. 

Donald Trump accomplished record unemployment, a successful foreign policy (whose story seems to never be told) and he did it in the face of irrational opposition.  He allowed his persona to become the issue; that was his flaw, and that may have cost him a close election.  But in terms of policy, statecraft, and accomplishment, there was far more positive than negative.

https://tennesseestar.com/2020/11/03/victor-davis-hanson-commentary-donald-trump-counterrevolutionary/

Until Donald Trump’s arrival, the globalist revolution was almost solidified and institutionalized – with the United States increasingly its greatest and most “woke” advocate. We know its bipartisan establishment contours.

Until Trump’s arrival, Big Tech was three-quarters home on the road to Nineteen Eighty-Four. Five or six companies monopolized most American – and indeed the world’s – access and use of the internet. In cynical fashion, Silicon Valley grandees patronized naïve conservatives that they were the supposed embodiment of Milton Friedman libertarianism and 19th century robber baron daring. Yet to their leftist kindred, the moguls of Menlo Park simultaneously whispered, “Don’t worry about such necessary disinformation: we will enrich only your candidates, only your agendas, only your foundations, only your universities – in exchange for your exemptions.”

Until Trump’s arrival, there was increasingly no border at all. Fifty-million foreign-born resided, both legally and illegally, in the United States. Nearly a million annually walked northward across the border with ease and without legal sanction or invitation. To object to illegal immigration and decry its deleterious effects on the entry-level wages of our working poor, on the social safety net of the American needy, and on the sanctity of the law was to be smeared as racist, xenophobic, and nativist.

Until Trump, the American interior was loser country. In-between the two gilded coasts resided the deplorables, irredeemables, clingers, the smelly Walmart patrons decried in the Page-Strzok text echanges, those John McCain called “crazies,” and Joe Biden has variously called the “dregs,” the “chumps” and the “ugly folks.” They were written off as Morlocks, who were occasionally seen poking about the rotting, rusting skeletons of abandoned steel plants, and for some reason never had proper orthodontics as children.

The success of civil rights was not to be calibrated by black unemployment figures, household income, family businesses, dignity in having leverage over employers, access to competitive parochial and charter schools, or descending abortion rates, but in electing more activists as progressive mayors, liberal city councilmembers, and leftist district attorneys to garner more redistributive state money to hire more careerists like themselves.

Trump, branded a bigot and racist, for now has sought to end that revolution, and measure race relations not by how many minority elites have choice jobs and high incomes, but by how well the entire minority community reaches income and employment parity with the general population—an idea that will earn the “racist” Trump far greater minority support than was expressed for John McCain and Mitt Romney.

And Trump has stood firm against our Cultural Revolution, regardless of the odds.

Against all that money and clout, the counterrevolutionary Trump had only one asset, the proverbial people. He had solely the under-polled and the written-off. They came out to his rallies in the tens of thousands, deluded the pollsters, and told the media less than nothing, but voted and will vote in waves to save America from what it was becoming.

Donald Trump has more solid accomplishments against the most unreasoning opposition than any President in my lifetime, period.  Whether you like his accomplishments is another question.  I do like his accomplishments, and I like even more his resolve in standing against the enemies of our Constitutional Republic.  In many other eras, Trump would have been an unremarkable and mediocre President, but for THIS time, he was downright heroic.  He was, for many of us, a Godsend, in that he stood for OUR American Jobs, OUR Religious Freedom, when others undermined them, presented us with platitudes, and, when these failed to mollify us, called us names and told us to shut up and comply with their dictates.

And, as the cherry on the top of the Ice Cream Sundae, he did it while literally DOUBLING his share of the Black vote and significantly increasing the Republican share of the Hispanic Vote. 

How did THAT happen?  It happened because Donald Trump (A) is, actually, not a racist who (B) actually believes that Black and Hispanic folks are motivated by many of the same things the rest of us are:

Trump actually asked Blacks and Hispanics for their votes and appealed to them on the basis of self-interest.  Then he delivered on his promises in terms of producing greater prosperity for them.  In addition, he actually provided meaningful redress to issues relevant to these constituencies.  Criminal Justice reform, financial aid to HBCUs, are real concerns for these folks, and Trump did something constructive.  Blacks and Hispanics are not different from other folks; they reward people who deliver for them, and elected officials are rewarded with votes. 

I consider this a tremendous development, not just because it debunks the canard that Donald Trump is a "racist", but because it is a direct hit to the corrosive Identity Politics that has utterly poisoned our nation.  Blacks and Hispanics have, in their numbers, a larger than average number of Biblical Christians and an above-average number of entrepreneurs running their own businesses.  These folks have got to have some degree of disconnect with today's Democratic Party and its hostility toward both Biblical Christians (which is pretty overt) and small business (which manifests itself in policies they espouse).  I pray that we are, despite all that has transpired, taken steps to putting race and ethnicity aside to develop a politics based on what is best for the whole and for individuals and their families all around.  Donald Trump's Presidency brought this about.  This cannot be easily explained away and trivialized.

Such an Effort Post, lol.

It is so easy to summarize your Long-Winded, Gibberish Posts.
Why waste much time responding to them.
By the way, your promise to "I can live with a Biden Presidency, but others cannot live with a trump presidency" is showing.

Let it show.  It's a fact.