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« Reply #75 on: October 14, 2021, 10:42:44 AM »

He's going to be a lameduck from day one, he's not going get his prefered cabinet picks, he's not going to get anything done with a narrow house majority and a 52-48 R majority in the senate, no court packings, no DC/PR Statehood. The Supreme Court is 6-3 conservative, they're going to dismantle the ACA, also the Democrats are going to get slaughtered in 2022/off-year elections.

The Democratic party is also going go in a state of civil war with radical leftists in the one side, and centrists on the other, now that Trump is not POTUS anymore/for now.

Then 2024 happens where Rs will have a favorable map for the senate, starting out with 3 automatic pickups (OH, MT, WV) and more toss-up races for pickings, possibly putting Rs with a 60 seat majority.

Enjoy it while it lasts!

This take aged surprisingly well. Biden hasn’t done anything and Dems are deadlocked. So long to the “coalition of the ascendant” which will “fundamentally transform” the nation!

Well, he did say “nothing will fundamentally change”

Yeah, "surprisingly well," except for the facts that, y'know, Biden obviously hasn't been a lame-duck since Jan. 20th, that he got his preferred Cabinet picks & has gotten sh*t done not only with a narrow House majority but with a Democratic majority in the Senate because Woodbury couldn't fathom last Nov. that GA, right after voting non-Atlas blue for the first time in forever, could possibly dare to do so again(!) less than 2 months later, & that he's appointed more federal judges in his first year in office than any President - including Trump at McConnell's behest - since Nixon. Sure, there's no DC/PR statehood, but last I checked, the 6-3 SCOTUS didn't dismantle the ACA, & it's gonna be pretty hard for the Democrats to "get slaughtered in 2022/off-year elections" when the GOP's God-Emperor literally ordered his base to sit out those upcoming elections because he's still upsetti-pasketti about both losing last Nov. & then having to watch his self-coup fail.

Even if we were to generously & laughably describe the reconciliation negotiations as a literal "state of civil war" in the Democratic Party "with radical leftists in the one side, and centrists on the other," the fact that Trump isn't POTUS anymore has finally allowed us to still do a lot of sh*t that we wanna collectively do as a party, & lmao, he's clearly not gonna be POTUS again for a multitude of reasons that've been described on here time & time again (& not least because, once again, he literally just ordered his base to stay home in 2024), so Woodbury & you can get the f**k out of here with "for now."

In 2024, the GOP may have a favorable map for the Senate on-paper, but describing OH, MT, & WV as automatic pickups 3-years-out is laughable given their incumbents, almost as laughable as the assumption that they'll be anywhere near 60.

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« Reply #76 on: October 14, 2021, 10:49:14 AM »
« Edited: October 14, 2021, 10:52:36 AM by Roll Roons »

In 2024, the GOP may have a favorable map for the Senate on-paper, but describing OH, MT, & WV as automatic pickups 3-years-out is laughable given their incumbents, almost as laughable as the assumption that they'll be anywhere near 60.

I do think Brown and Tester can win, even if their races will be tough. But WV is a lost cause even if Manchin runs again. He'll have to outrun Biden by 35-40 points, and I just don't see that level of ticket-splitting happening in a federal race anytime in the next few years.
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« Reply #77 on: October 14, 2021, 12:06:21 PM »

He's going to be a lameduck from day one, he's not going get his prefered cabinet picks, he's not going to get anything done with a narrow house majority and a 52-48 R majority in the senate, no court packings, no DC/PR Statehood. The Supreme Court is 6-3 conservative, they're going to dismantle the ACA, also the Democrats are going to get slaughtered in 2022/off-year elections.

The Democratic party is also going go in a state of civil war with radical leftists in the one side, and centrists on the other, now that Trump is not POTUS anymore/for now.

Then 2024 happens where Rs will have a favorable map for the senate, starting out with 3 automatic pickups (OH, MT, WV) and more toss-up races for pickings, possibly putting Rs with a 60 seat majority.

Enjoy it while it lasts!
HAHAHA

This aged like milk
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« Reply #78 on: October 28, 2021, 06:26:57 AM »

He's going to be a lameduck from day one, he's not going get his prefered cabinet picks, he's not going to get anything done with a narrow house majority and a 52-48 R majority in the senate, no court packings, no DC/PR Statehood. The Supreme Court is 6-3 conservative, they're going to dismantle the ACA, also the Democrats are going to get slaughtered in 2022/off-year elections.

The Democratic party is also going go in a state of civil war with radical leftists in the one side, and centrists on the other, now that Trump is not POTUS anymore/for now.

Then 2024 happens where Rs will have a favorable map for the senate, starting out with 3 automatic pickups (OH, MT, WV) and more toss-up races for pickings, possibly putting Rs with a 60 seat majority.

Enjoy it while it lasts!

Hmm...

I guess it depends on your definition of a lame duck but Biden has indeed gotten some things done, a large portion of his judges passed and quite a few of his policies passed. There's a 50-50 senate although some might say that because of Manchin and Sinema, it is effectively a 52-48 GOP senate so...I'll give you that.

I will give you that there hasn't been court packing and Biden himself has said he's not a fan and there's no new states but the Supreme Court has not dismantled the ACA. We don't know about 2022 yet so that has yet TBD.

Aside from Manchin and Sinema to a degree, the Dems have remained rather united as a party on most issues so...Not sure about this one chief.

I will concede that it IS possible for the GOP to wind up with 60 seats but it would require most everything go perfectly for them.

One year later. Some parts of this post have aged well, other parts extremely poorly.

It's looking like a mixed outlook for the GOP at best at this point, rather than an entirely positive one as you were saying it's going to be. Biden is not popular right now and re-districting will likely make the House a tough hold for the Dems but we're still a year out and it's entirely possible for Biden to turn things back around in a more positive direction for him and his party heading into 2022 and beyond.
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« Reply #79 on: October 30, 2021, 12:21:08 PM »

He's going to be a lameduck from day one, he's not going get his prefered cabinet picks, he's not going to get anything done with a narrow house majority and a 52-48 R majority in the senate, no court packings, no DC/PR Statehood. The Supreme Court is 6-3 conservative, they're going to dismantle the ACA, also the Democrats are going to get slaughtered in 2022/off-year elections.

The Democratic party is also going go in a state of civil war with radical leftists in the one side, and centrists on the other, now that Trump is not POTUS anymore/for now.

Then 2024 happens where Rs will have a favorable map for the senate, starting out with 3 automatic pickups (OH, MT, WV) and more toss-up races for pickings, possibly putting Rs with a 60 seat majority.

Enjoy it while it lasts!

The "lame duck" quality relates to the extreme age of Joe Biden. Yes, I expect Republicans to do everything possible to create gridlock so that anyone who wants anything out of the government will be obliged to vote R so that they can get the tablescraps that they want desperately at the great cost that Republicans connect to it. 

The radical leftists that you mention are going to be obliged to make pragmatic choices.

The Republican Party is not distancing itself from Trump as

Republicans distanced themselves from the elder Bush in 1992 (OK, it was a tired act)
Democrats moved away from Carter after 1980 (losing big is not good for keeping control of the Party)
Republicans moved away from Hoover after 1932.

Trump did not lose that badly, but unlike the others he still has a personality cult that seems to have survived the election.

OK, governing isn't easy. Something always goes wrong.
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« Reply #80 on: October 30, 2021, 01:32:08 PM »

He's going to be a lameduck from day one, he's not going get his prefered cabinet picks, he's not going to get anything done with a narrow house majority and a 52-48 R majority in the senate, no court packings, no DC/PR Statehood. The Supreme Court is 6-3 conservative, they're going to dismantle the ACA, also the Democrats are going to get slaughtered in 2022/off-year elections.

The Democratic party is also going go in a state of civil war with radical leftists in the one side, and centrists on the other, now that Trump is not POTUS anymore/for now.

Then 2024 happens where Rs will have a favorable map for the senate, starting out with 3 automatic pickups (OH, MT, WV) and more toss-up races for pickings, possibly putting Rs with a 60 seat majority.

Enjoy it while it lasts!

Hey idiot, what do you mean he "won"?

Also, why haven't you left the forum for a year?
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« Reply #81 on: October 30, 2021, 02:24:21 PM »

He's going to be a lameduck from day one, he's not going get his prefered cabinet picks, he's not going to get anything done with a narrow house majority and a 52-48 R majority in the senate, no court packings, no DC/PR Statehood. The Supreme Court is 6-3 conservative, they're going to dismantle the ACA, also the Democrats are going to get slaughtered in 2022/off-year elections.

The Democratic party is also going go in a state of civil war with radical leftists in the one side, and centrists on the other, now that Trump is not POTUS anymore/for now.

Then 2024 happens where Rs will have a favorable map for the senate, starting out with 3 automatic pickups (OH, MT, WV) and more toss-up races for pickings, possibly putting Rs with a 60 seat majority.

Enjoy it while it lasts!

Hey idiot, what do you mean he "won"?

Also, why haven't you left the forum for a year?
No need for insults. I have already answered both questions. It's a belief that tens of millions of other Americans hold.
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« Reply #82 on: October 30, 2021, 02:27:13 PM »

He's going to be a lameduck from day one, he's not going get his prefered cabinet picks, he's not going to get anything done with a narrow house majority and a 52-48 R majority in the senate, no court packings, no DC/PR Statehood. The Supreme Court is 6-3 conservative, they're going to dismantle the ACA, also the Democrats are going to get slaughtered in 2022/off-year elections.

The Democratic party is also going go in a state of civil war with radical leftists in the one side, and centrists on the other, now that Trump is not POTUS anymore/for now.

Then 2024 happens where Rs will have a favorable map for the senate, starting out with 3 automatic pickups (OH, MT, WV) and more toss-up races for pickings, possibly putting Rs with a 60 seat majority.

Enjoy it while it lasts!

Hey idiot, what do you mean he "won"?

Also, why haven't you left the forum for a year?
No need for insults. I have already answered both questions. It's a belief that tens of millions of other Americans hold.

What's your answer for not leaving the forum for a year?

And just because tens of millions of Americans hold that belief doesn't make it true.
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« Reply #83 on: October 30, 2021, 02:31:49 PM »

He's going to be a lameduck from day one, he's not going get his prefered cabinet picks, he's not going to get anything done with a narrow house majority and a 52-48 R majority in the senate, no court packings, no DC/PR Statehood. The Supreme Court is 6-3 conservative, they're going to dismantle the ACA, also the Democrats are going to get slaughtered in 2022/off-year elections.

The Democratic party is also going go in a state of civil war with radical leftists in the one side, and centrists on the other, now that Trump is not POTUS anymore/for now.

Then 2024 happens where Rs will have a favorable map for the senate, starting out with 3 automatic pickups (OH, MT, WV) and more toss-up races for pickings, possibly putting Rs with a 60 seat majority.

Enjoy it while it lasts!

Hey idiot, what do you mean he "won"?

Also, why haven't you left the forum for a year?
No need for insults. I have already answered both questions. It's a belief that tens of millions of other Americans hold.

What's your answer for not leaving the forum for a year?

And just because tens of millions of Americans hold that belief doesn't make it true.
I don't view those elections as legitimate/suppressed turnout on Republicans cost the Senate.

And I do genuinely believe in it. Just as much as Stacey Abrams/McAuliffe likes to spread the narrative that Republicans steal elections and many of their officials are illegitimate.
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« Reply #84 on: October 30, 2021, 02:36:50 PM »

He's going to be a lameduck from day one, he's not going get his prefered cabinet picks, he's not going to get anything done with a narrow house majority and a 52-48 R majority in the senate, no court packings, no DC/PR Statehood. The Supreme Court is 6-3 conservative, they're going to dismantle the ACA, also the Democrats are going to get slaughtered in 2022/off-year elections.

The Democratic party is also going go in a state of civil war with radical leftists in the one side, and centrists on the other, now that Trump is not POTUS anymore/for now.

Then 2024 happens where Rs will have a favorable map for the senate, starting out with 3 automatic pickups (OH, MT, WV) and more toss-up races for pickings, possibly putting Rs with a 60 seat majority.

Enjoy it while it lasts!

Hey idiot, what do you mean he "won"?

Also, why haven't you left the forum for a year?
No need for insults. I have already answered both questions. It's a belief that tens of millions of other Americans hold.

What's your answer for not leaving the forum for a year?

And just because tens of millions of Americans hold that belief doesn't make it true.
I don't view those elections as legitimate/suppressed turnout on Republicans cost the Senate.

And I do genuinely believe in it. Just as much as Stacey Abrams/McAuliffe likes to spread the narrative that Republicans steal elections and many of their officials are illegitimate.

Did Brian Kemp purge many voters from the voter rolls (particularly voters of color) while he was Secretary of State for an election he was running in, a clear conflict of interest?  Did Stacey Abrams ultimately accept that Kemp would become the governor (while making it clear that she didn't concede, as conceding implies that you are admitting something was right or just)? 

Did a bunch of Trump appointed judges throw out their frivolous lawsuits because they lacked evidence?

Did you say that you would leave the forum for a year?  Were you aware at the time that you said it that Republican turnout was depressed?  Isn't that kind of how elections work sometimes, one side doesn't turn out and the other side wins?  Given that, why is it even defensible for you to still be here when you said you'd leave?  Why are you a liar?
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