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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2020, 01:06:51 AM »

2022 Predictions:

Governor:  J.B. Pritzker
Senator:  Tammy Duckworth
Lt. Governor:  Juliana Stratton
Attorney General:  Kwame Raoul
Comptroller:  Susana Mendoza
Secretary of State:  Lauren Underwood
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« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2020, 03:56:50 PM »
« Edited: November 19, 2020, 04:05:42 PM by new_patomic »

Madigan has officially lost his majority in the Illinois House, at least by a few votes.

That's going by those who have publicly said they're unwilling to vote for him as speaker.
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« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2020, 04:49:17 PM »

Madigan has officially lost his majority in the Illinois House, at least by a few votes.

That's going by those who have publicly said they're unwilling to vote for him as speaker.

It's worth noting for those outside IL that the driver of these Dem defections was a new round of federal indictments last night: four connected with the Com Ed scandal to curry favor with Madigan through hiring and contracts for those supported by the Speaker. The Speaker's connection to the unfolding scandal was cited in some key Dem defeats. These new indictments were enough to push a number of his caucus.
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« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2020, 05:51:44 PM »

Madigan needs to resign, otherwise we're risking someone like Bob Dold or Adam Kinzinger beating J.B Pritzker in 2022.
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« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2020, 05:54:12 PM »

Madigan needs to resign, otherwise we're risking someone like Bob Dold or Adam Kinzinger beating J.B Pritzker in 2022.

Ok, now I want to keep Madigan...
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« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2020, 05:55:33 PM »

Madigan needs to resign, otherwise we're risking someone like Bob Dold or Adam Kinzinger beating J.B Pritzker in 2022.

I highly doubt this happens, and even if it does, it is worth the extremely gerrymandered maps that Madigan will give us, a Governor Dold or Kinzinger would be powerless in the face of a Democratic legislature, while a new leader might not be willing to be as ruthless as Madigan.
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« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2020, 07:17:52 PM »

I see no evidence that Adam Kinzinger has any interest in running for Governor.  Foreign policy is his main focus, by far and he rarely ever comments on state government in Illinois.  He might run for Senate if Duckworth is appointed to something, though, and I'd say thats still a stretch.
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« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2020, 02:30:39 AM »

Madigan needs to resign, otherwise we're risking someone like Bob Dold or Adam Kinzinger beating J.B Pritzker in 2022.

I rate IL-Gov 2022 Likely Dem for now. But it could move to Safe Dem or Lean Dem (maybe toss up) very quickly.

The reason for my likely Dem rating is because it is obvious that Pritzker is going to be blown out downstate in a way he was not in 2018 with some mitigation of McLean and Sangamon counties clearly trending Democratic.

But for Pritzker to actually lose there would have to be some bloodletting in the Chicagoland suburbs.
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« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2020, 12:41:39 PM »

Madigan has officially lost his majority in the Illinois House, at least by a few votes.

That's going by those who have publicly said they're unwilling to vote for him as speaker.

That's not "officially" then. That's "unofficially".
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« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2020, 07:51:22 PM »
« Edited: November 22, 2020, 07:56:12 PM by new_patomic »

Madigan has officially lost his majority in the Illinois House, at least by a few votes.

That's going by those who have publicly said they're unwilling to vote for him as speaker.

That's not "officially" then. That's "unofficially".
One would presume 18 House Dems going on record as not being in favor of voting for him is more official than unofficial. This isn't anonymous reporting about their intentions, these are statements/quotes/press releases from them directly.
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« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2020, 09:18:12 AM »

Madigan has officially lost his majority in the Illinois House, at least by a few votes.

That's going by those who have publicly said they're unwilling to vote for him as speaker.

That's not "officially" then. That's "unofficially".
One would presume 18 House Dems going on record as not being in favor of voting for him is more official than unofficial. This isn't anonymous reporting about their intentions, these are statements/quotes/press releases from them directly.

This is politics. An arm twist here, a committee leadership there, who knows what can happen.
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« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2020, 05:25:23 PM »

For those interested, Chicago just witnessed the narrowest budget vote in the City Council since the 80s — Lightfoot's budget only passed 29-21, with six aldermen dissenting from the left and 15 from the right. One DSA-affiliated council member and another generally associated with the city's left voted for the budget; if they and a couple other conservatives voted against, the budget fails.

Lightfoot will be a one term mayor.
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« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2020, 05:48:38 PM »

For those interested, Chicago just witnessed the narrowest budget vote in the City Council since the 80s — Lightfoot's budget only passed 29-21, with six aldermen dissenting from the left and 15 from the right. One DSA-affiliated council member and another generally associated with the city's left voted for the budget; if they and a couple other conservatives voted against, the budget fails.

Lightfoot will be a one term mayor.
Who do you think will run against her on the left and the right?
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« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2020, 05:49:51 PM »

For those interested, Chicago just witnessed the narrowest budget vote in the City Council since the 80s — Lightfoot's budget only passed 29-21, with six aldermen dissenting from the left and 15 from the right. One DSA-affiliated council member and another generally associated with the city's left voted for the budget; if they and a couple other conservatives voted against, the budget fails.

Lightfoot will be a one term mayor.
Like there’s anyone who could garner the support to win in Chicago. She’s got major incumbency and name recognition advantages very useful in this cash-strapped pandemic environment.
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« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2020, 05:53:15 PM »

For those interested, Chicago just witnessed the narrowest budget vote in the City Council since the 80s — Lightfoot's budget only passed 29-21, with six aldermen dissenting from the left and 15 from the right. One DSA-affiliated council member and another generally associated with the city's left voted for the budget; if they and a couple other conservatives voted against, the budget fails.

Lightfoot will be a one term mayor.

I hope Vasquez and Hadden get primaried for this. These are two wards that deserve aldermen who are firmly on the left (the 49th, in particular, is definitely fertile ground for a DSA-aligned candidate).
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« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2020, 06:26:09 PM »

For those interested, Chicago just witnessed the narrowest budget vote in the City Council since the 80s — Lightfoot's budget only passed 29-21, with six aldermen dissenting from the left and 15 from the right. One DSA-affiliated council member and another generally associated with the city's left voted for the budget; if they and a couple other conservatives voted against, the budget fails.

Lightfoot will be a one term mayor.
Like there’s anyone who could garner the support to win in Chicago. She’s got major incumbency and name recognition advantages very useful in this cash-strapped pandemic environment.
The election's not until 2023, so it certainly won't be in a pandemic environment. The most obvious left-of-center candidate is Brandon Johnson, who'd certainly draw at least some union backing, and who has a decent amount of name recognition (county commissioner with a regular radio show). The right will almost certainly have someone with a ton of cash too (Paul Vallas?). And then there's Willie Wilson.

Lightfoot is a weak, weak mayor with no natural base of support and she's gonna draw a handful of very well-funded challengers.
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« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2020, 07:06:56 PM »

Lightfoot is gonna lose the cop wards by Stalin-esque margins next time around, whereas she won them by the same in 2019 runoff.  Thats not enough votes to flip an election, but when you consider that, as stated above, she has no natural base she can’t afford to be pissing everyone off.  And thats what she’s managed to do.  Piss off every single person in this city, left and right, each in their own unique way.  Yes, with that said she will be fine with the Lakeview liberal meme crowd who loves her STAY HOME crap since they’re the only people in the city benefitting from it.
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« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2020, 07:26:54 PM »

Lightfoot is gonna lose the cop wards by Stalin-esque margins next time around, whereas she won them by the same in 2019 runoff.  Thats not enough votes to flip an election, but when you consider that, as stated above, she has no natural base she can’t afford to be pissing everyone off.  And thats what she’s managed to do.  Piss off every single person in this city, left and right, each in their own unique way.  Yes, with that said she will be fine with the Lakeview liberal meme crowd who loves her STAY HOME crap since they’re the only people in the city benefitting from it.

Democrats should recruit one of the Obama's to run against Lightfoot in 2023.
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« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2020, 07:28:32 PM »

Lightfoot is gonna lose the cop wards by Stalin-esque margins next time around, whereas she won them by the same in 2019 runoff.  Thats not enough votes to flip an election, but when you consider that, as stated above, she has no natural base she can’t afford to be pissing everyone off.  And thats what she’s managed to do.  Piss off every single person in this city, left and right, each in their own unique way.  Yes, with that said she will be fine with the Lakeview liberal meme crowd who loves her STAY HOME crap since they’re the only people in the city benefitting from it.

Democrats should recruit one of the Obama's to run against Lightfoot in 2023.

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« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2020, 10:30:33 PM »

Lightfoot is gonna lose the cop wards by Stalin-esque margins next time around, whereas she won them by the same in 2019 runoff.  Thats not enough votes to flip an election, but when you consider that, as stated above, she has no natural base she can’t afford to be pissing everyone off.  And thats what she’s managed to do.  Piss off every single person in this city, left and right, each in their own unique way.  Yes, with that said she will be fine with the Lakeview liberal meme crowd who loves her STAY HOME crap since they’re the only people in the city benefitting from it.

Democrats should recruit one of the Obama's to run against Lightfoot in 2023.
Why would any of them run?
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« Reply #45 on: November 24, 2020, 10:36:36 PM »

Lightfoot is gonna lose the cop wards by Stalin-esque margins next time around, whereas she won them by the same in 2019 runoff.  Thats not enough votes to flip an election, but when you consider that, as stated above, she has no natural base she can’t afford to be pissing everyone off.  And thats what she’s managed to do.  Piss off every single person in this city, left and right, each in their own unique way.  Yes, with that said she will be fine with the Lakeview liberal meme crowd who loves her STAY HOME crap since they’re the only people in the city benefitting from it.
Couldn't she win the cop wards by the same margins again if she draws a #defundthepolice kind of opponent in the runoff?
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« Reply #46 on: November 24, 2020, 10:40:57 PM »

Lightfoot is gonna lose the cop wards by Stalin-esque margins next time around, whereas she won them by the same in 2019 runoff.  Thats not enough votes to flip an election, but when you consider that, as stated above, she has no natural base she can’t afford to be pissing everyone off.  And thats what she’s managed to do.  Piss off every single person in this city, left and right, each in their own unique way.  Yes, with that said she will be fine with the Lakeview liberal meme crowd who loves her STAY HOME crap since they’re the only people in the city benefitting from it.

Democrats should recruit one of the Obama's to run against Lightfoot in 2023.
Why would any of them run?

Under normal circumstances, they wouldn't. But an Obama probably would be the strongest recruit to challenge Lightfoot.
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« Reply #47 on: November 24, 2020, 11:17:21 PM »

Lightfoot is gonna lose the cop wards by Stalin-esque margins next time around, whereas she won them by the same in 2019 runoff.  Thats not enough votes to flip an election, but when you consider that, as stated above, she has no natural base she can’t afford to be pissing everyone off.  And thats what she’s managed to do.  Piss off every single person in this city, left and right, each in their own unique way.  Yes, with that said she will be fine with the Lakeview liberal meme crowd who loves her STAY HOME crap since they’re the only people in the city benefitting from it.

Democrats should recruit one of the Obama's to run against Lightfoot in 2023.
Why would any of them run?

Under normal circumstances, they wouldn't. But an Obama probably would be the strongest recruit to challenge Lightfoot.


Any chance Malia might want to try and start a political career? She'd be 25. I couldn't find any age requirements for mayor online

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« Reply #48 on: November 24, 2020, 11:20:23 PM »

Lightfoot is gonna lose the cop wards by Stalin-esque margins next time around, whereas she won them by the same in 2019 runoff.  Thats not enough votes to flip an election, but when you consider that, as stated above, she has no natural base she can’t afford to be pissing everyone off.  And thats what she’s managed to do.  Piss off every single person in this city, left and right, each in their own unique way.  Yes, with that said she will be fine with the Lakeview liberal meme crowd who loves her STAY HOME crap since they’re the only people in the city benefitting from it.

Democrats should recruit one of the Obama's to run against Lightfoot in 2023.
Why would any of them run?

Under normal circumstances, they wouldn't. But an Obama probably would be the strongest recruit to challenge Lightfoot.


Any chance Malia might want to try and start a political career? She'd be 25. I couldn't find any age requirements for mayor online



It's certainly possible, I suppose.
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« Reply #49 on: November 25, 2020, 02:19:09 AM »

None of the Obamas have any reason to run for Mayor of Chicago. For one, they don't live there...
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