Can Crist win the 2022 FL-Gov Election?

[TML]

It's not necessarily impossible, but it would require all the chips to fall into place:

-DeSantis must have an underwater approval rating
-Crist must run a near-perfect campaign with no significant missteps
-Biden must have an above-water net approval rating within FL

[brucejoel99]

It's not necessarily impossible, but it would require all the chips to fall into place:

-DeSantis must have an underwater approval rating
-Crist must run a near-perfect campaign with no significant missteps
-Biden must have an above-water net approval rating within FL

Also, David Jolly not staging an independent candidacy.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It's not necessarily impossible, but it would require all the chips to fall into place:

-DeSantis must have an underwater approval rating
-Crist must run a near-perfect campaign with no significant missteps
-Biden must have an above-water net approval rating within FL

Also, David Jolly not staging an independent candidacy.

Jolly isn't staging an Indy campaign, but anyone thinking that D's were never win OH, FL, IA and NC is inaccurate.

Biden won those same states in 2008/2012, but DeSantis isn't a D he is an R and as soon as he try to become Prez he will try to cut taxes at 20% corporation like Trump and Entitlements will go down

Anyone thinking the Gaetz story is not gonna affect DeSantis is seriously mistaken. Gaetz call Gilliam and Socialisic Afro American

[Fuzzy Bear]

No. I highly doubt anyone is beating DeSantis. He is still pretty popular in FL. Besides, I think Fried is likely going to be the nominee.

Fried might destroy her career by launching a pointless run against a popular DeSantis. If she can survive her Ag Commissioner race, she would have a better shot in an open seat 2026, especially if it was a Republican is president.

Fried will have a hard time getting re-elected.  She doesn't have a high profile and there will be substantial candidates running against her given that DeSantis is a 10 point favorite at this point.  (Adam Putnam, for one, is likely to seek his old job again.)

I like Crist and voted for him for Senate and against Scott.  Until now, I've been a straight Democratic voter in Florida state elections since 2002 and I like Crist, but I like DeSantis more.

More importantly, Crist not only switched parties; he switched IDEOLOGIES.  He wasn't a conservative Democrat who switched to the GOP; he was a conservative Republican who moved to the center somewhat (but not totally), then switched to being a neoliberal Democrat.  THAT'S the part that some people just can't get by.  He was known as "Chain Gang Charlie" as a Republican, then he became a Republican, then an Obama Democrat.  The only person I can think of who took this path was Goldwaterite Rep. John Hall Buchanan (R-AL) who ended up being founder of People for the American Way.  His party switch was too cute by half, and THAT (sadly) is what kept him from ousting Rick Scott in 2014.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

DeSantis won't be Prez, not against Biden since he has to win the big three MI, PA and WI and Baldwin, Stabenow and Casey won landslides in 2018 and will win again in 2024

There is an R lockout in PA with Fetterman and Casey Jr and DeSANTIS has gotten away with not proposing a huge tax cut, he will have to do it as soon as he become a Prez candidate

But, DeSantis isn't Jeb Bush that he is so admired that he will cake walk to Reelection, Rs must realize he beat a Socialisic Afro American in 2018 by 0.5, Adam Putnam would have not been a Trumpian



Rs need to admit EVERYONE DOESN'T LIKE DESANTIS, I do realize this is your R Nominee but he is only a 1 term Gov

[Donerail]

More importantly, Crist not only switched parties; he switched IDEOLOGIES.  He wasn't a conservative Democrat who switched to the GOP; he was a conservative Republican who moved to the center somewhat (but not totally), then switched to being a neoliberal Democrat.  THAT'S the part that some people just can't get by.  He was known as "Chain Gang Charlie" as a Republican, then he became a Republican, then an Obama Democrat.  The only person I can think of who took this path was Goldwaterite Rep. John Hall Buchanan (R-AL) who ended up being founder of People for the American Way.  His party switch was too cute by half, and THAT (sadly) is what kept him from ousting Rick Scott in 2014.

There have always been things Charlie was consistent on, though. He's always been good on the environment, which is something people in his district care about — he was running on fighting offshore drilling when he ran for Senate in 1998. He's usually been good on education issues too (two of his sisters are public school teachers). There are lots of things he's flipped on, but there are some through-lines, and they seem to be the issues he may actually care about.

[Arizona Iced Tea]

DeSantis won't be Prez, not against Biden since he has to win the big three MI, PA and WI and Baldwin, Stabenow and Casey won landslides in 2018 and will win again in 2024

There is an R lockout in PA with Fetterman and Casey Jr and DeSANTIS has gotten away with not proposing a huge tax cut, he will have to do it as soon as he become a Prez candidate

But, DeSantis isn't Jeb Bush that he is so admired that he will cake walk to Reelection, Rs must realize he beat a Socialisic Afro American in 2018 by 0.5, Adam Putnam would have not been a Trumpian



Rs need to admit EVERYONE DOESN'T LIKE DESANTIS, I do realize this is your R Nominee but he is only a 1 term Gov

I agree that some of the large DeSantis margins like over 5 are little high. Honestly, I think he wins by around 2 to 3% when it is all said and done as Florida governor races are close. However, keep in mind Florida doesn't like Biden, as Trump managed to increase his margins there. There is no way Democrats can win Florida without getting +30% margins in the Big 3, Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach, and I just don't see Crist being able to do that. Like all states Florida has changed, it isn't Obama's Florida anymore, it's Donald Trump's.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

DeSantis won't be Prez, not against Biden since he has to win the big three MI, PA and WI and Baldwin, Stabenow and Casey won landslides in 2018 and will win again in 2024

There is an R lockout in PA with Fetterman and Casey Jr and DeSANTIS has gotten away with not proposing a huge tax cut, he will have to do it as soon as he become a Prez candidate

But, DeSantis isn't Jeb Bush that he is so admired that he will cake walk to Reelection, Rs must realize he beat a Socialisic Afro American in 2018 by 0.5, Adam Putnam would have not been a Trumpian



Rs need to admit EVERYONE DOESN'T LIKE DESANTIS, I do realize this is your R Nominee but he is only a 1 term Gov

I agree that some of the large DeSantis margins like over 5 are little high. Honestly, I think he wins by around 2 to 3% when it is all said and done as Florida governor races are close. However, keep in mind Florida doesn't like Biden, as Trump managed to increase his margins there. There is no way Democrats can win Florida without getting +30% margins in the Big 3, Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach, and I just don't see Crist being able to do that. Like all states Florida has changed, it isn't Obama's Florida anymore, it's Donald Trump's.

I hope you know that CRIST was responsible for giving everyone Stimulus checks that he helped you get your 2K, if DeSantis Becomes Prez most entitlements will end even with a GOP Congress or more Republicans, no more stimulus checks they want a 20 percent cut in Corporate taxes

I know what the Rs are up to McConnell and Johnson objected when they were in Majority to 2K checks that Trump was calling for that's why they lost GA

[Progressive Pessimist]

No. He has his House seat now. He ought to forget about any of his higher ambitions if he still wants a job in elected politics.

[AncestralDemocrat.]

Option 2, he could, it's not guaranteed, it's a tossup

It's not by any metric, a tossup.

Nonsensical to suggest.

[Donerail]

Option 2, he could, it's not guaranteed, it's a tossup

It's not by any metric, a tossup.

Nonsensical to suggest.

Your most recent poll had it 45-45. Pretty much a tossup.

[Roll Roons]

Option 2, he could, it's not guaranteed, it's a tossup

It's not by any metric, a tossup.

Nonsensical to suggest.

Your most recent poll had it 45-45. Pretty much a tossup.

Imagine trusting Florida polls. A lot of polls suck, but Florida's seem to be especially bad. Even without Trump on the ballot.

[Donerail]

It's not by any metric, a tossup.

Nonsensical to suggest.

Your most recent poll had it 45-45. Pretty much a tossup.

Imagine trusting Florida polls. A lot of polls suck, but Florida's seem to be especially bad. Even without Trump on the ballot.

He asked for "any metric," not your most preferred metric. The polling indicates it's a competitive race. Maybe it's not according to the 15-y/o brain geniuses on this website, but polls are one metric.

[AncestralDemocrat.]

Option 2, he could, it's not guaranteed, it's a tossup

It's not by any metric, a tossup.

Nonsensical to suggest.

Your most recent poll had it 45-45. Pretty much a tossup.

I mean there was two Florida polls released in a short period of time last month..

One showing DeSantis up double digits (Mason Dixon), and tied 45-45 (St Pete's Poll).

I mean whichever you choose to believe ultimately depends on your partisanship. lol

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

We all gonna have our Prediction next yr and this is wave insurance for D's, there has been only two polls a blowout and a tight race


You can put FL safe R on your map, while D's will put it on our Map Secular like we always do, DeSantis for heaven sake beat a Socialisic Afro American in Andrew Gillium nothing to brag about by .5

[AncestralDemocrat.]

We all gonna have our Prediction next yr and this is wave insurance for D's, there has been only two polls a blowout and a tight race


You can put FL safe R on your map, while D's will put it on our Map Secular like we always do, DeSantis for heaven sake beat a Socialisic Afro American in Andrew Gillium nothing to brag about by .5

Secular..?

[sting in the rafters]

DeSantis by 4-7 if Crist runs. FLGOP's party infrastructure is too strong. Also running Crist with his stance on Cuba would be a sign that Ds still haven't learned their lesson regarding red-baiting. His flip-flopping turns off the base too.

[Sir Mohamed]

Very, very unlikely. DeSantis is relatively popular and FL didn't vote non-Atlas blue in 2018 and in 2020, which arguably were more Dem-friendly years than 2022 is expected to be. While FL gubernatorial election were hardly affected by wave elections, I just can't imagine DeSantis losing to a dude who lost statewide before and more than once.

Unless DeSantis gets tainted by a major scandal or so, he's not going to lose in 2022 to any possible Dem challenger. Just hope certain posters in this forum don't fall for early polls again (may) that indicate some level of competitiveness.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Very, very unlikely. DeSantis is relatively popular and FL didn't vote non-Atlas blue in 2018 and in 2020, which arguably were more Dem-friendly years than 2022 is expected to be. While FL gubernatorial election were hardly affected by wave elections, I just can't imagine DeSantis losing to a dude who lost statewide before and more than once.

Unless DeSantis gets tainted by a major scandal or so, he's not going to lose in 2022 to any possible Dem challenger. Just hope certain posters in this forum don't fall for early polls again (may) that indicate some level of competitiveness.

The last Poll had DeSantis tied he beat a Socialisic Afro American the Election is 18 mnths away I don't understand D's whom are these DeSantis supporters


You can say the Election is over and DeSabtis is tied in a poll with 500 days left. It's certainly isn't

At least I won't have DeSantis winning or D's winning in OH and NC Senate map when next yr maps go out

Anybody can lose even DeSantis

And he isn't that great looking either.  Everyone doesn't think DeSantis is gonna win

That's why CRIST is considering

[AlterEgo]

It's not by any metric, a tossup.

Nonsensical to suggest.

Your most recent poll had it 45-45. Pretty much a tossup.

Imagine trusting Florida polls. A lot of polls suck, but Florida's seem to be especially bad. Even without Trump on the ballot.

He asked for "any metric," not your most preferred metric. The polling indicates it's a competitive race. Maybe it's not according to the 15-y/o brain geniuses on this website, but polls are one metric.

Except this thread is about Crist winning. That tied poll is DeSantis vs. Fried.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

We will find out about a D wave in Summer of 2022, hopefully Covid is over