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« Reply #175 on: October 21, 2022, 04:07:06 AM »

It seems after capturing Shire the joint EPLF-ENDF force is heading eastward while another ENDF-Amhara militia force from Amhara is heading Northward to link up with this force.  This might be too aggressive.  It seems ENDF and EPLF should prioritize wiping out TPLF forces in the rear West of Shire before pushing eastward.   They are risking a repeat of their mistake of late 2020 and early 2021 of focusing on taking over towns along key roads leaving the vast countryside to TPLF who built up the defense to ambush ENDF forces who were too stretched to try to defend too many isolated positions from TPLF harassment.
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« Reply #176 on: October 21, 2022, 09:53:00 AM »

Looks like the EPLF-ENDF force that captured the Shire a few days ago has advanced around 40 miles to the East and is outside Axum.  Again this puts them further and further away from their source of supply so for this to make sure they have to be sure that their line of communication is solid or else this is a risky move.
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« Reply #177 on: October 22, 2022, 08:40:14 AM »

https://apnews.com/article/abiy-ahmed-addis-ababa-ethiopia-africa-government-and-politics-891fdcb0b80c303ca9fe68d622e94b1a

"Ethiopians protest against outsiders amid Tigray conflict"

Anti-USA protests throughout Ethiopia's urban centers as peace talks begin between the Ethiopia government and TPLF in South Africa.  The protestors accuse the USA of interfering with a domestic Ethiopia affair.
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« Reply #178 on: October 22, 2022, 09:56:04 AM »

It seems EPLF-ENDF forces capture Aksum.  The road between Shire and Aksum is very mountainous and perfect for TPLF ambushes.  Yet the EPLF-ENDF were able to move quickly from Shire to Aksum to capture it without much resistance.  Either TPLF is playing a very long game (like late 2020) or TPLF strength has been broken in this area.
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« Reply #179 on: October 22, 2022, 10:45:29 AM »

I’m surprised by how easily the Oromo front was beaten back. Once all this is over I suspect the reason why the OLF insurgency was defeated is the main reason why Ethiopia and Eritrea will win the war.

Drone technology is the other reason, Iran has made a killing in sending their cheap drones to conflict areas around the world with great effects.
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« Reply #180 on: October 22, 2022, 11:26:07 AM »

The next flashpoint would be Adwa which is east of Aksum.  It is a road junction whose capture would make it easier for EPLF to send in supplies which means TPLF is likely to try to contest it.
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« Reply #181 on: October 22, 2022, 03:34:26 PM »

The next flashpoint would be Adwa which is east of Aksum.  It is a road junction whose capture would make it easier for EPLF to send in supplies which means TPLF is likely to try to contest it.

Wow. I spoke too soon.  It seems that EPLD-ENDF just captured Adwa.
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« Reply #182 on: October 22, 2022, 03:38:48 PM »

I’m surprised by how easily the Oromo front was beaten back. Once all this is over I suspect the reason why the OLF insurgency was defeated is the main reason why Ethiopia and Eritrea will win the war.

Drone technology is the other reason, Iran has made a killing in sending their cheap drones to conflict areas around the world with great effects.

What did in TPLF is their poor diplomacy.  Eritrea and Tigray are very close from a cultural and linguistic point of view so there is no reason why Tigray should not be able to get Eritrea to be allied with it.  TPLF being behind the 1998-2000 Eritrean–Ethiopian War pretty much made EPLF a permeate enemy of TPLF.  All is not lost for TPLF but this war will be very different if Eritrea was backing TPLF.
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« Reply #183 on: October 22, 2022, 04:21:53 PM »

The next flashpoint would be Adwa which is east of Aksum.  It is a road junction whose capture would make it easier for EPLF to send in supplies which means TPLF is likely to try to contest it.

Wow. I spoke too soon.  It seems that EPLD-ENDF just captured Adwa.
When I hear Adwa I think of the battle in 1896. Certainly it's a place with a lot of history.
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« Reply #184 on: October 22, 2022, 05:00:30 PM »

The next flashpoint would be Adwa which is east of Aksum.  It is a road junction whose capture would make it easier for EPLF to send in supplies which means TPLF is likely to try to contest it.

Wow. I spoke too soon.  It seems that EPLD-ENDF just captured Adwa.
When I hear Adwa I think of the battle in 1896. Certainly it's a place with a lot of history.

You are referencing the war Italy fought to conquer and then colonize the Ethiopian kingdom, presumably.  Which it lost, and then tried again in the 1930s under Benito Mussolini, where again it failed. 
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« Reply #185 on: October 22, 2022, 05:04:13 PM »

The next flashpoint would be Adwa which is east of Aksum.  It is a road junction whose capture would make it easier for EPLF to send in supplies which means TPLF is likely to try to contest it.

Wow. I spoke too soon.  It seems that EPLD-ENDF just captured Adwa.
When I hear Adwa I think of the battle in 1896. Certainly it's a place with a lot of history.

You are referencing the war Italy fought to conquer and then colonize the Ethiopian kingdom, presumably.  Which it lost, and then tried again in the 1930s under Benito Mussolini, where again it failed.  

Yes, that war in 1896 was the first time a European power was unambiguously defeated by an African one during the Age of Imperialism. The Italians were so cartoonishly incompetent and overconfident in that war. Unfortunately, they won the second time, but it was a short-lived victory. Adwa looks like an important crossroads kind of place, strategically located; I guess it shouldn't be surprising it and the vicinity would be the host of multiple important battles.
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« Reply #186 on: October 22, 2022, 05:47:38 PM »

The next flashpoint would be Adwa which is east of Aksum.  It is a road junction whose capture would make it easier for EPLF to send in supplies which means TPLF is likely to try to contest it.

Wow. I spoke too soon.  It seems that EPLD-ENDF just captured Adwa.
When I hear Adwa I think of the battle in 1896. Certainly it's a place with a lot of history.

Aksum which EPLF-ENDF also just captured is fairly historic as it is the capital of the old Kingdom of Aksum and is the location of the Ark of the Covenant as claimed by the Ethiopian Orthodox Church.
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« Reply #187 on: October 23, 2022, 08:51:05 AM »

Sources claim that EPLF-ENDF has captured Adigrat.    It seems this was done in connection with EPLF forces coming down from the North and linking up with the EPLF-ENDF force moving East from Adwa. If true then TPLF would have lost all of Northern Tigray in a matter of days.

Of course, TPLF forces must still operate in the rural parts of Nothern Tigray and the true base of TPLF is Central Tigray so TPLF is far from finished.  I suspect TPLF might be shifting to more of a guerilla-style war like in early 2021 soon.
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« Reply #188 on: October 23, 2022, 08:58:38 AM »

We could be seeing a repeat of 2021 where TPLF withdrew from lowlands and urban areas to launch hit and run attacks on ENDF supply lines until they collapse.
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« Reply #189 on: October 23, 2022, 09:02:09 AM »

TPLF is down but not out.   While there have been some TPLF fighters have been captured there are no signs of entire TPLF units surrendering.  I can see TPLF pulling out of Southern Tigray and giving up Mekele in light of these multi-directional assaults from all sides and pulling into the mountainous rural part of Central Tigray just like in early 2021.

The main difference this time is that in 2021 the Ethiopian government needed to put up a show to the domestic population including urban Tigray that the war is over which really hampered their efforts to finish off TPLF opening themselves up for ambushes and then massive defeat in June 2021.  This time it is different.  The Ethiopian population is now been prepared from a PR point of view for a long war for total victory so the ENDF does not need to put up a show of total victory and can slowly and methodically destroy TPLF with the help of EPLF and Amhara/Afar militas.

Will be interesting to see how these lightening offensives have won the peace talks that will start Monday in South Africa.
 
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« Reply #190 on: October 23, 2022, 09:08:40 AM »

There are rumors that TPLF might be getting ready to pull out of Mekele

This war really reminds me of the Mughal–Maratha war of 1680-1707 where Marathas controlled the rural areas and then fought a cat-and-mouse fight with the larger Mughal forces over key towns and fortress with rapid gains and losses from both sides of the key towns.
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« Reply #191 on: October 23, 2022, 02:38:48 PM »

There are reports of a breakthrough on the Eastern Front.  There ENDF-EPLF-Afar militia offensive seems to have broken the TPLF defense to capture Wirko and Agula cutting Mekele from Northern Tigray.   There was a similar offensive by the ENDF-Afar militia a month ago that failed.  But in the meantime EPLF forces joined them and once Shire fell they started their offensive again leading to this breakthrough.  This might explain reports that TPLF is starting to move out of Mekele.  All these moves seem to be coordinated to gain the maximum advantage for Ethiopia in peace talks that will start Monday in South Africa.
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« Reply #192 on: October 23, 2022, 05:57:51 PM »

I’m surprised by how easily the Oromo front was beaten back. Once all this is over I suspect the reason why the OLF insurgency was defeated is the main reason why Ethiopia and Eritrea will win the war.

Drone technology is the other reason, Iran has made a killing in sending their cheap drones to conflict areas around the world with great effects.

Yeah.  We had an answer to Iran before Trump F-ed up our relationship with Saudi Arabia.  In 2019, the Saudis were attacked by Iranian Drones, so Trump and Netanyahu facilitated a deal to supply Israeli Air Defenses and Fighter Jets to the Saudis, Qatar, Bahrain, and the UAE.  Israel would be given air space to launch air strikes on Iranian Weapon Manufactories and Nuclear Facilities. In 2020, the Saudis helped Trump kill Qasem Soleimani in Iran, and it was the most significant success for the US Military in the ME since the capture of Osama Bin Laden.  He was the irreplaceable commander of the proxy war operations against the United States in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Eritrea, and Somalia.  He killed many Americans, and worked with the China and Russia to establish the drone program that managed successful strikes in Syria and Saudi Arabia.   China and Iran have been waging a very successful proxy war in Africa, because Biden blew our relationship with Saudi Arabia by calling them Pariahs, and demonstrating extreme weakness during the Afghan Withdrawal. 

Now the US has no presence in the ME aside for an Israel Government that can do nothing until Bibi is elected.  Biden has been an unreliable partner that sold out Israel to the Iranians within a month of taking office.  All the above-stated plans between Saudi Arabia and Israel, were given to Iran in order to establish peace.  Saudi Arabia was forced to deny it.  We now know that Israel has the locations of Iranian Weapons Programs, and  they could take it out if they had had Saudi Arabia.  Biden doesn't have oil, materials for advanced weaponry, or any allies that can turn the war against the Russian Coalition.  The restrictions on food  and agricultural products to Africa gives Russia and China a huge bargaining chip in Africa.

Africa is outside my knowledge, but issue in Ethiopia was getting resolved when Trump left office.  It's just one of many proxy wars where the US is losing ground. 
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« Reply #193 on: October 26, 2022, 03:45:16 AM »

There are reports of fighting at Mekele Airport.  If so this must be the ENDF-EPLF-Afar militia moving in from the East.

Also, it seems the force that captured Adigrat was an EPLF force coming down from Eritrea and that the EPLF-ENDF has not made a junction between Adwa and  Adigrat.  This means that TPLF has not completely melted away in North Tigray and fighting continues there.

Instead, it seems the EPLF-ENDF force in Adwa is heading South toward the old TPLF base of Hagere Selam in Central Tigray.  Hagere Selam was the TPLF base back in the 1980s when it was fighting against Derg and during the ENDF-EPLF offensive in late 2020 this town was never captured.  

In the West, it seems the ENDF-Amhara militias have moved North and made a juncture with the EPLF-ENDF force in Shire cutting off a bloc of TPLF force West of Shire.
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« Reply #194 on: November 02, 2022, 02:54:29 PM »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-63490546

"Ethiopia's Tigray conflict: Truce agreed"
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« Reply #195 on: November 02, 2022, 02:59:40 PM »

I really don’t see this lasting long.
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« Reply #196 on: November 02, 2022, 03:58:58 PM »

The deal is between TPLF and the Ethiopian federal government and not the Tigray regional government.  This is a victory for the Ethiopian federal government where it was able to reject the legality of the Tigray regional government.  Both sides agreed to stop fighting.  TPLF agreed that there is only one defense force which is the EPLF which again is a victory for the Ethiopian federal position because this means TPLF will be disbanded and integrated into EPLF.  Tigray regional government will be dissolved and an interim Tigray government will be formed by TPLF and other pro-EPLF elements as part of the re-integration of Tigray back into Ethiopia.

What TPLF got was that supplies will flow once again into areas currently controlled by TPLF.

Western Tigray's legal position (being a part of Tigray or not) will be decided later.

Eritrea is not a party to this deal so it is not clear if Eritrea will honor the terms of the deal but Ethiopia claims that Eritrea's position was represented by Ethiopia's federal government.

If TPLF carries out the terms of this idea it is a victory for the strategy I recommended for EPLF almost a year ago since what killed TPLF was the lack of supplies which was exactly the strategy I proposed.

The upcoming ENDF strategy should be what we Chinese call 關門打狗 (Close the door and then attack the dog) which is really isolating the enemy into a region that is all within your zone of control and then slowly moving in for the kill.  This is will be part II of Winfield Scott's Anaconda Plan.
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« Reply #197 on: November 03, 2022, 04:40:57 AM »

TPLF is taking a lot of flak from the Tigray diaspora on their concessions in the peace deal.  TPLF is pretty much giving up its military win in order to survive as a political force in Tigray and be able to participate in federal Ethiopian politics.  This seems to be unacceptable to the Tigray diaspora.  There are already signs that TPLF might be buckling.

There is not an official document of the deal and I think it is because TPLF feels the need to pre-sell the deal to their backers before it comes out which will make TPLF look bad.  There are delays in the official document of the deal coming out which means TPLF is running into trouble.  This might lead to the deal falling apart and resumption of fighting.
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« Reply #198 on: November 06, 2022, 05:02:00 AM »

Interesting facts about the peace deal so far

1) TPLF negotiators are back in Mekelle.  It seems the deal is a hard sell for the activists.  The TPLF line so far is that the Addis Ababa regime is bent on the genocide of Tigraians.  If so how can TPLF disarmament make any sense the activists ask of the TPLF leadership?

2) Ethiopia explicitly does not thank the USA for the peace deal and only thanks AU.  Ethiopia clearly sees the USA and the collective West being on the side of TPLF and now will drift further away from the USA.

3) USA in reciprocation does not mention the word disarmament but only cessation of hostilities signaling to the TPLF that if fighting were to start again the USA will not "blame" TPLF since they never were supposed to "disarm" which is what the peace deal explicitly says.

All this seems to indicate that TPLF could not convince its activist base or if ENDF gets too aggressive with "self-service" of TPLF disarmament there is a good chance the fighting will start again.
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« Reply #199 on: November 06, 2022, 07:39:28 AM »

OLA captures the key town of Nekemte.  Looks like the tentative end of the Tigray war could not take place soon enough for ENDF.
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