When does the Democratic party win another presidential election if Biden loses?

[SaneDemocrat]

Thoughts

[Mike Tyson]

Never again Biden had the biggest polling lead for a dem since LBJ

[Suburbia]

2024 or 2028

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

Never, American democracy is pretty much over with a second Trump term.

[Pyro]

2024 if Democrats nominate a progressive.

[darklordoftech]

2024. Rarely does one of the parties win three consecutive Presidential elections.

[ShamDam]

A lot sooner than if he wins.

[Suburbia]

2024 if Democrats nominate a progressive.

A progressive cant win. It depends. People like their cops and such.

[oraclebones]

Never again Biden had the biggest polling lead for a dem since LBJ

Maybe you should consider that polls do not always correctly reflect reality? Just because Biden had a polling lead doesn't mean he had an actually existing lead among voters.

[One Term Floridian]

We should disband and just let Trump be Trump. I’m moving to California and will advocate for #Calexit

[Agonized-Statism]

2024, but it might take a likable ticket:

If anything, not enough minority and youth turnout would again be looked at as a problem, apart from a lot of railing against the designated geopolitical enemies of the day. 2024 would be expected as a blowout for the Democrats anyway- I doubt Trump's second term would be spectacular- so don't expect some dramatic change in the party's current big-tent coalition. However, the rhetoric of the 2024 campaign would shift from return to normalcy to policy-driven populism. Progressives would have a stronger position in the party, but it wouldn't be a complete takeover.

Look to young Sun Belt "Warren Democrats".

[Democratic Hawk]

Next time a Republican, royally, screws up and even then its not a given

[GoTfan]

Never. There will never be another free and fair election in the United States.

[charcuterie]

Never. There will never be another free and fair election in the United States.

This is very alarmist.

But I also think it's true.

[GP270watch]

If Ohio, Florida, and the former blue wall are going to be uphill climbs it hard to see where Democrats win. Texas looks to be moving to Democrats but might have a cycle or two as a swing state.

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

2024 if Democrats aren't stupid and cocky but then again I thought Atlas had learned from 2016 so maybe Democratic strategic stupidity is unlimited

[dw93]

2024. Even if Trump wins (50/50 at this point) this week, he's lost NE-02 and will likely lose AZ, meaning Trump lost ground from 2016. That doesn't translate into a GOP victory in 2024.

[jamestroll]

CIVIL WAR!!!!

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

2024 if Democrats aren't stupid and cocky but then again I thought Atlas had learned from 2016 so maybe Democratic strategic stupidity is unlimited

Establishment Democrats are paid to not learn obvious lessons.

[Inmate Trump]

Never, American democracy is pretty much over with a second Trump term.

[mianfei]

2024. Even if Trump wins (50/50 at this point) this week, he's lost NE-02 and will likely lose AZ, meaning Trump lost ground from 2016. That doesn't translate into a GOP victory in 2024.

If the Democratic Party really had a chance of blocking the Republican Party’s path to total power and the end of free (as in free of charge via voter ID) and fair elections, this election under the influence of COVID-19 was its best chance. Yet it gained one state and one vote from a congressional district.

Without COVID-19, this election would have been a real Trump landslide, likely setting the stage for a Seventh Party System dominated by the Republicans with the Democrats as a regional party limited to the Northeast and Pacific Coast:

In fact, the way in which the Republicans performed in South Texas suggests that by capturing the Latino working and middle classes as they did those classes of whites after the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s, the GOP could gain the permanent hold on power, and create virtually one-party conditions outside the Northeast and Pacific Coast for generations.

In a form modified by time and demographic changes, this coming freefall of the Democratic Party is exactly what Kevin Phillips predicted in The Emerging Republican Majority to be the ultimate result of embracing black civil rights against a nonblack population so overwhelmingly hostile that opinion polls suggest only 13 percent supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Never. There will never be another free and fair election in the United States.

This is very alarmist.

But I also think it's true.

What seems virtually certain to happen when the economy recovers from COVID-19 is that:

• the Heartland “blue wall” states like PA, OH, MI, WI, MN will become solidly Republican
• the South will see its Latinos turn rock-ribbed Republican on social issues – look at the freefall in South Texas – and it will become a Republican bastion akin to the Jim Crow Democratic South as it suppresses a larger and alrger proportion of black voters
• the Democratic Party will be virtually nonexistent outside the socially liberal states of the Pacific and northeastern Megalopolis (alongside Illinois)
• it may be that we see many states, especially in Appalachia and the Ozarks, where there are no Democratic electors nominated on presidential ballots
• rural New England may remain competitive, but social issues may make it heavily Republican as well
• the Republicans win a long series of presidential and congressional landslides from 2024 after COVID-19 is gone and they know how to add to their coalition.
• Latino voters could be turning Republican now, just as Catholics did in 1896 to create a monopoly on national power, albeit with a vastly less ideological and less dangerous Republican Party

[Mr. Smith]

2024

- Party fatigue
- The West becomes decisively D [look at Kansas and Arizona swings, and look at Texas...with competent Hispanic outreach.]
- Momentum from 2022 six-year itch.

[mianfei]

If Ohio, Florida, and the former blue wall are going to be uphill climbs it hard to see where Democrats win. Texas looks to be moving to Democrats but might have a cycle or two as a swing state.

Actually, the abrupt and totally unexpected collapse of rural Latino Democratic support in the party’s oldest stronghold of South Texas suggests that Texas is not going to turn into a Democratic state even in the long term.

Poor and middle-class Latinos, the Texas results indicate, will desert the Democrats soon just as poor whites did after civil rights. When the power of the richest one percent, even of the richest 0.1 percent, over campaign finance absolutely excludes a successful candidate running on a program that might economically help the poor or even the middle class, the only way to campaign amongst them is on social issues like fear of godless socialism. The Democrats have no ability to compete with the Republicans’ message on such issues.

[SnowLabrador]

Never, American democracy is pretty much over with a second Trump term.