CONGRESSIONAL RESULTS MEGA THREAD

[Roll Roons]

Honestly, the best thing to do would be to have a do-over election. But it really didn't have to be like this.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Honestly, the best thing to do would be to have a do-over election. But it really didn't have to be like this.

Strongly disagree

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Honestly, the best thing to do would be to have a do-over election. But it really didn't have to be like this.

You are only saying this because it would be a likely R special election, obvious hack

[Roll Roons]

Honestly, the best thing to do would be to have a do-over election. But it really didn't have to be like this.

You are only saying this because it would be a likely R special election, obvious hack

No, I'm saying this because the sheer incompetence in election administration has made it impossible to figure out who actually won.

[Frenchrepublican]

Honestly, the best thing to do would be to have a do-over election. But it really didn't have to be like this.

I disagree too, the situation is very different from the one in NC-9 back in 2018, yeah the race is very close and the people who are managing electoral boards in NY should be fired but there was no electoral fraud, as long you're ahead by one vote you have won, so if after counting every ballot Tenney is ahead she should be seated, and if the democrat is ahead he should be seated.

[jimrtex]

Honestly, the best thing to do would be to have a do-over election. But it really didn't have to be like this.

I disagree too, the situation is very different from the one in NC-9 back in 2018, yeah the race is very close and the people who are managing electoral boards in NY should be fired but there was no electoral fraud, as long you're ahead by one vote you have won, so if after counting every ballot Tenney is ahead she should be seated, and if the democrat is ahead he should be seated.

There was absolutely no evidence of evidence of fraudulent voting affecting the outcome in NC-9. The NCBOE overturned the election because it was "tainted". Dowless McCrae has not yet been tried for anything that happened in 2018.

It is really a jump ball situation. They should do like in basketball and give possession on an alternating basis. Tenney gets the seat on this basis.

An even better approach would be split the seat. Each day there would be a lottery to decide which candidate is seated for that day. This could work regardless of the support. If you get 5% of the popular vote, there would be a 5% chance of being seated on any given day. This could even be extended across districts. All candidates in New York would show up and 27 would be selected for the day. Some days, both Tenney and Brindisi might be chosen; other days neither, and most often one or the other.

[KaiserDave]

Honestly, the best thing to do would be to have a do-over election. But it really didn't have to be like this.

I disagree too, the situation is very different from the one in NC-9 back in 2018, yeah the race is very close and the people who are managing electoral boards in NY should be fired but there was no electoral fraud, as long you're ahead by one vote you have won, so if after counting every ballot Tenney is ahead she should be seated, and if the democrat is ahead he should be seated.

There was absolutely no evidence of evidence of fraudulent voting affecting the outcome in NC-9. The NCBOE overturned the election because it was "tainted". Dowless McCrae has not yet been tried for anything that happened in 2018.

It is really a jump ball situation. They should do like in basketball and give possession on an alternating basis. Tenney gets the seat on this basis.

An even better approach would be split the seat. Each day there would be a lottery to decide which candidate is seated for that day. This could work regardless of the support. If you get 5% of the popular vote, there would be a 5% chance of being seated on any given day. This could even be extended across districts. All candidates in New York would show up and 27 would be selected for the day. Some days, both Tenney and Brindisi might be chosen; other days neither, and most often one or the other.

That is a very bad idea

[SenatorCouzens]

I don't disagree with you. But I rather have a Clinton tier ground organization than Biden's (lack of), especially with Hispanic voters.

Okay. But this is the 2nd presidential election in a row against a severely flawed Republican nominee where Democratic local organization has failed them. I don't buy that's due entirely to Covid. In the past 6 federal elections going back to 2010, there's a grand total of 1 where it went well for the Democrats outside of the presidency: 2018. There's something systemic there.

Democrats did well in the Senate in 2012, they picked up Indiana and held North Dakota and Missouri. The only reason they still have a shot of 50 seats in the Senate in the Georgia runoffs is because of how well they did with that Senate class.

What?  Democrats lost those three seats (ND, MO and IN) in 2018.  If they had been able to win those races that in 2018, they'd already be sitting at a senate majority before resolution of the GA runoffs.

I assume the reference to 2012 keeping Dem hopes in the Senate alive today is the fact that they won WV, MT, and OH that year, and those strong Dem incumbents managed to hold on in 2018. Had Republicans instead won those races in 2012, the GOP incumbents presumably would've been able to hang on in 2018, given the partisan tilt of the states.

[jimrtex]

Honestly, the best thing to do would be to have a do-over election. But it really didn't have to be like this.

I disagree too, the situation is very different from the one in NC-9 back in 2018, yeah the race is very close and the people who are managing electoral boards in NY should be fired but there was no electoral fraud, as long you're ahead by one vote you have won, so if after counting every ballot Tenney is ahead she should be seated, and if the democrat is ahead he should be seated.

There was absolutely no evidence of evidence of fraudulent voting affecting the outcome in NC-9. The NCBOE overturned the election because it was "tainted". Dowless McCrae has not yet been tried for anything that happened in 2018.

It is really a jump ball situation. They should do like in basketball and give possession on an alternating basis. Tenney gets the seat on this basis.

An even better approach would be split the seat. Each day there would be a lottery to decide which candidate is seated for that day. This could work regardless of the support. If you get 5% of the popular vote, there would be a 5% chance of being seated on any given day. This could even be extended across districts. All candidates in New York would show up and 27 would be selected for the day. Some days, both Tenney and Brindisi might be chosen; other days neither, and most often one or the other.

That is a very bad idea

So this is how the very good idea would work. If this plan were put in practice, Working Families and Conservative would likely run their own candidates, and the other parties would run candidates in all districts. Even Republicans would contest all districts.

There might be an opportunity for party candidates to combine their support. Instead of 11 Libertarians averaging 0.012 votes, or roughly voting once every 82 days, they could choose one representative who would be able to vote every 7-1/2 days.
 

12	Carolyn B. Maloney	DEM	265172	0.874
8	Hakeem S. Jeffries	DEM	234933	0.774
13	Adriano Espaillat	DEM	231841	0.764
9	Yvette D. Clarke	DEM	230221	0.758
5	Gregory W.  Meeks	DEM	229125	0.755
27	Chris Jacobs	REP	229044	0.755
26	Brian Higgins	DEM	223276	0.736
20	Paul D. Tonko	DEM	219705	0.724
16	Jamaal Bowman	DEM	218471	0.720
3	Thomas R.  Suozzi	DEM	208412	0.687
25	Joseph D. Morelle	DEM	206396	0.680
10	Jerrold L. Nadler	DEM	206310	0.680
1	Lee M. Zeldin	REP	199763	0.658
4	Kathleen M. Rice	DEM	199762	0.658
17	Mondaire Jones	DEM	197353	0.650
19	Antonio Delgado	DEM	192100	0.633
7	Nydia M. Velazquez	DEM	191073	0.629
21	Elise M. Stefanik	REP	188649	0.621
18	Sean Patrick Maloney	DEM	187169	0.617
24	John M. Katko	REP	182567	0.601
23	Tom Reed	REP	181060	0.596
2	Andrew R. Garbarino	REP	177353	0.584
15	Ritchie Torres	DEM	169533	0.558
3	George A.D. Santos	REP	161907	0.533
6	Grace Meng	DEM	158862	0.523
1	Nancy S.  Goroff	DEM	157484	0.519
11	Nicole Malliotakis	REP	155608	0.513
22	Claudia Tenney	REP	155348	0.512
22	Anthony J. Brindisi	DEM	154997	0.511
2	Jackie  Gordon	DEM	154123	0.508
4	Douglas L. Tuman	REP	153007	0.504
14	Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez	DEM	152661	0.503
19	Kyle Van De Water	REP	151475	0.499
27	Nathan D. McMurray	DEM	149559	0.493
24	Dana Balter	DEM	147638	0.486
18	Chele C. Farley	REP	145098	0.478
20	Elizabeth L. Joy	REP	139446	0.459
11	Max N. Rose	DEM	137198	0.452
25	George Mitris	REP	136198	0.449
21	Tedra L. Cobb	DEM	131992	0.435
23	Tracy Mitrano	DEM	129014	0.425
17	Maureen McArdle-Schulman	REP	117307	0.386
26	Ricky T. Donovan, Sr.	REP	91687	0.302
6	Thomas J.  Zmich	REP	74829	0.247
10	Cathy A. Bernstein	REP	66889	0.220
14	John C. Cummings	REP	58440	0.193
12	Carlos Santiago-Cano	REP	53061	0.175
9	Constantine Jean-Pierre	REP	43950	0.145
8	Garfield H. Wallace	REP	42007	0.138
16	Patrick McManus	CON	41085	0.135
7	Brian W. Kelly	REP	32520	0.107
15	Patrick Delices	REP	21221	0.070
13	Lovelynn Gwinn	REP	19829	0.065
24	Steven Williams	WOR	13232	0.044
17	Yehudis Gottesfeld	CON	8887	0.029
22	Keith D. Price, Jr.	LBT	6749	0.022
17	Joshua Eisen	ECL	6363	0.021
25	Kevin A. Wilson	LBT	5325	0.018
27	Duane J. Whitmer	LBT	4884	0.016
26	Michael P. Raleigh	GRE	4628	0.015
19	Victoria N. Alexander	LBT	4224	0.014
12	Steven Kolln	LBT	4015	0.013
23	Andrew M. Kolstee	LBT	3650	0.012
2	Harry R. Burger	GRE	3446	0.011
10	Michael Madrid	LBT	3370	0.011
13	Christopher Morris-Perry	CON	3295	0.011
18	Scott A. Smith	LBT	3162	0.010
4	Joseph R. Naham	GRE	3024	0.010
19	Steven Greenfield	GRE	2799	0.009
17	Michael I. Parietti	SAM	2745	0.009
3	Howard Rabin	LBT	2154	0.007
14	Michelle Caruso-Cabrera	SAM	2000	0.007
9	Gary Popkin	LBT	1644	0.005
7	Gilbert Midonnet	LBT	1522	0.005
9	Joel B. Anabilah-Azumah	SAM	1052	0.003

[KaiserDave]

no

[JMT]

Looks like NY-22 will officially be vacant at the start of the next Congress:

https://twitter.com/rickyreports/status/1341172349161394178?s=21

[JMT]

https://twitter.com/allymutnick/status/1341388110995869698?s=21

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/allymutnick/status/1341388110995869698

Regardless of whether she's in the right or wrong, what a sh*tty time to be a Democrat contesting an election result.

[BudgieForce]

https://twitter.com/allymutnick/status/1341388110995869698

Regardless of whether she's in the right or wrong, what a sh*tty time to be a Democrat contesting an election result.

That's why I figure house democrats won't come to her rescue.

I do think democrats should look into why those 22 votes were contested, but I don't even think they'll go that far.

[BudgieForce]

So I looked it up and Miller-Meeks can be seated while a house investigation takes place. Also this AP article goes through the 22 ballots:

Hart’s filing notes that 11 ballots weren’t counted because of mistakes by poll workers, including nine ballots discovered during the recount in Marion County and two curbside votes that weren’t put into a tabulation machine in Scott County.
Full Coverage: Election 2020

Elections officials agree those were valid votes. But under Iowa law, they could not be considered during the recount since they were not included in the initial canvass. Hart would have picked up seven votes, Miller-Meeks three.

In addition, Hart outlines 11 other ballots that she says were wrongly excluded from voters who supported her.

Those included absentee ballots that were rejected because return envelopes were not sealed properly or were resealed using tape after they arrived in the mail sealed. One envelope was ripped; another was signed but not on the signature line.

Johnson County apologized to another voter whose provisional ballot was excluded after an election worker’s error. Two others ballots were not counted after they were left at a drop box outside the district in Cedar Rapids, where the voters attend school.

All signed affidavits saying they voted for Hart, and Elias said their ballots should be available for investigators to confirm.

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-iowa-mariannette-miller-meeks-elections-iowa-city-b0b8ddb4e878a54fce078ac116e3eb76

Honestly, I do think Hart has a valid case to make. Again though, I doubt democrats try to meaningfully intervene.

[compucomp]

So I looked it up and Miller-Meeks can be seated while a house investigation takes place. Also this AP article goes through the 22 ballots:

Hart’s filing notes that 11 ballots weren’t counted because of mistakes by poll workers, including nine ballots discovered during the recount in Marion County and two curbside votes that weren’t put into a tabulation machine in Scott County.
Full Coverage: Election 2020

Elections officials agree those were valid votes. But under Iowa law, they could not be considered during the recount since they were not included in the initial canvass. Hart would have picked up seven votes, Miller-Meeks three.

In addition, Hart outlines 11 other ballots that she says were wrongly excluded from voters who supported her.

Those included absentee ballots that were rejected because return envelopes were not sealed properly or were resealed using tape after they arrived in the mail sealed. One envelope was ripped; another was signed but not on the signature line.

Johnson County apologized to another voter whose provisional ballot was excluded after an election worker’s error. Two others ballots were not counted after they were left at a drop box outside the district in Cedar Rapids, where the voters attend school.

All signed affidavits saying they voted for Hart, and Elias said their ballots should be available for investigators to confirm.

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-iowa-mariannette-miller-meeks-elections-iowa-city-b0b8ddb4e878a54fce078ac116e3eb76

Honestly, I do think Hart has a valid case to make. Again though, I doubt democrats try to meaningfully intervene.

Why didn't she make the case in the courts then? NY-22 will be vacant while it is resolved. Wasn't MN-Sen in 2008 left vacant until the Coleman/Franken legal battle finished?

I saw she argued at one point that the Iowa courts will not give her fair judgement but this is an awful argument for a Democrat to make right now because it's exactly what Trump is arguing.

[brucejoel99]

So I looked it up and Miller-Meeks can be seated while a house investigation takes place. Also this AP article goes through the 22 ballots:

[snip]

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-iowa-mariannette-miller-meeks-elections-iowa-city-b0b8ddb4e878a54fce078ac116e3eb76

Honestly, I do think Hart has a valid case to make. Again though, I doubt democrats try to meaningfully intervene.

Why didn't she make the case in the courts then? NY-22 will be vacant while it is resolved. Wasn't MN-Sen in 2008 left vacant until the Coleman/Franken legal battle finished?

I saw she argued at one point that the Iowa courts will not give her fair judgement but this is an awful argument for a Democrat to make right now because it's exactly what Trump is arguing.

She argued that the timeline the courts' consideration of her case would be held to was insufficient but that seemed like a pretty bad excuse. More likely, her & her campaign decided that they wouldn't get the result they wanted from the court, so they decided to just skip it & go straight to Congress. In any event, though, her decision to challenge in Congress obviously really doesn't look good. Like, at all, especially when you consider that they could've done so after going to court anyway, so it seems disingenuous for them to have not gone through all of the proper local/state channels for legally contesting a election. The last thing we need right now is an election outcome being decided in a partisan manner by Congress.

[VAR]

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1341755742827794434

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1341759733028556803

[Roll Roons]

https://twitter.com/PatLohmann/status/1341774735999459329

And there are apparently 950 ballots left to go through.

It is very possible that Brindisi hangs on while Shalala, Cisneros and Cox lost in Biden districts. Honestly, I'm kind of rooting for him at this point. What a comeback that would be.

[KaiserDave]

Nice to see King Anthony in the lead but it means nothing and we won’t know for months

[Xing]

I guess you’d rather be ahead than behind, but that kind of margin isn’t safe. This is definitely giving me MN-SEN 2008 vibes.

[Tekken_Guy]

Should Democrats do a compromise and agree to seat Miller-Meeks in exchange for Tenney’s concession?

[Skill and Chance]

https://twitter.com/PatLohmann/status/1341774735999459329

And there are apparently 950 ballots left to go through.

It is very possible that Brindisi hangs on while Shalala, Cisneros and Cox lost in Biden districts. Honestly, I'm kind of rooting for him at this point. What a comeback that would be.

Sunbelt and Rust Belt both regressed to the mean a bit this year, save for Atlanta. 

[Skill and Chance]

Should Democrats do a compromise and agree to seat Miller-Meeks in exchange for Tenney’s concession?

I don't think it can be settled that quickly, but IMO this will ultimately be the arrangement.  Brindisi and Miller-Meeks will be seated.  The precedent of overturning IA-02 after state certification and before Hart even filed a court appeal is very dangerous in this era. 

[GeorgiaModerate]

Should Democrats do a compromise and agree to seat Miller-Meeks in exchange for Tenney’s concession?

What would be the incentive for Hart and Tenney to agree to this?