What's the WORST-CASE scenario?

[Blue3]

What's the worst-case scenario?

-voter suppression makes it a very, very close race
-Biden edges out just enough votes in just enough states
-Trump says it's voter fraud, and declares himself the winner, saying he won't give up power to Biden
-mass protests break out
-some of those protests turn violent
-Trump makes it seem like all the protesters are violent, and orders the police (even though he can't technically order them) to "shoot to kill" all protesters, and they start happily obliging to in multiple big cities across the country whether there's any violence or not.
-Democratic lawmakers join the protests, trusting that will stop the police from shooting, and some of them are gunned down by police too.
-Electoral College voters decide to vote for Trump in swing states that Biden won, to avoid Trump trying to stay on illegally as some moderate centrist compromise for "law and order."
-It goes to the Supreme Court, which backs up the rogue Electoral College voters, and Trump is certified the winner sometime in mid-December.
-Trump wastes no time in successfully pressuring the DOJ to help states to decide many votes already counted were fraudulent or illegal because they were voted by mail, and races that seemed settled and going to the Democrats in the Senate, House, and State Legislatures now switch to Republican winners.
-2021 begins as a political powderkeg, as the pandemic begins to climb again and is now threatening the supply chains, and we all realize each year of the 2020's is going to be worse than the year before it.

[Hammy]

-Electoral College voters decide to vote for Trump in swing states that Biden won, to avoid Trump trying to stay on illegally as some moderate centrist compromise for "law and order."

So you think its in the realm of possibility that, instead of states sending competing electors, that Democratic Party electors would just decide to vote for Trump as some compromise for the sake of legitimacy appearances?

If you're going to include this as some realistic worst case scenario, Trump hitting the nuke button and claiming we're under attack with voters not having enough time to see it was an inside job is more feasible--and that's something that's near zero.

[Crumpets]

-Electoral College voters decide to vote for Trump in swing states that Biden won, to avoid Trump trying to stay on illegally as some moderate centrist compromise for "law and order."

So you think its in the realm of possibility that, instead of states sending competing electors, that Democratic Party electors would just decide to vote for Trump as some compromise for the sake of legitimacy appearances?

If you're going to include this as some realistic worst case scenario, Trump hitting the nuke button and claiming we're under attack with voters not having enough time to see it was an inside job is more feasible--and that's something that's near zero.

More like Republican-controlled state legislatures seating pro-Trump or "independent" electors despite Biden winning their states.

The basic theory behind this scenario is explained here:

Salon: Trump campaign discussing plans to appoint its own state electors, no matter the results

[Hammy]

-Electoral College voters decide to vote for Trump in swing states that Biden won, to avoid Trump trying to stay on illegally as some moderate centrist compromise for "law and order."

So you think its in the realm of possibility that, instead of states sending competing electors, that Democratic Party electors would just decide to vote for Trump as some compromise for the sake of legitimacy appearances?

If you're going to include this as some realistic worst case scenario, Trump hitting the nuke button and claiming we're under attack with voters not having enough time to see it was an inside job is more feasible--and that's something that's near zero.

More like Republican-controlled state legislatures seating pro-Trump or "independent" electors despite Biden winning their states.

The basic theory behind this scenario is explained here:

Salon: Trump campaign discussing plans to appoint its own state electors, no matter the results

Except his claim is Electors "deciding" to vote for Trump as a compromise

[oraclebones]

Um, yes, that would be bad.

What's the worst-case scenario?
-It goes to the Supreme Court, which backs up the rogue Electoral College voters, and Trump is certified the winner sometime in mid-December.

FWIW, the Supreme Court decided a case earlier this year upholding states' ability to punish faithless electors.

(Also, Congress doesn't certify a winner until January.)

[Devout Centrist]

-Electoral College voters decide to vote for Trump in swing states that Biden won, to avoid Trump trying to stay on illegally as some moderate centrist compromise for "law and order

These electors would be Democratic slates. Maybe 1 or 2 are dumb enough to throw away their votes, but there's no way they'd vote for Trump

Anyway the worst case scenario is simple: Trump wins, Republicans hold the Senate. OR Biden wins, Republicans hold the Senate.

[Darthpi - Crush the Oligarchy]

Probably this: https://cosmosmagazine.com/physics/vacuum-decay-ultimate-catastrophe/

[MATTROSE94]

Looks about right. This is what I expect to happen. I am sure that Donald Trump will hit "opposition" cities such as Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, Los Angeles, Albuquerque, and New York City with nuclear weapons as well.

[Blue3]

I don't mean this thread to be about this particular scenario, but what do you think is the worst-case (but technically feasible) scenario for this election?

Um, yes, that would be bad.

What's the worst-case scenario?
-It goes to the Supreme Court, which backs up the rogue Electoral College voters, and Trump is certified the winner sometime in mid-December.

FWIW, the Supreme Court decided a case earlier this year upholding states' ability to punish faithless electors.

(Also, Congress doesn't certify a winner until January.)

There are some swing states that don't have state laws that forbid faithless electors.

[Tekken_Guy]

Looks about right. This is what I expect to happen. I am sure that Donald Trump will hit "opposition" cities such as Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, Los Angeles, Albuquerque, and New York City with nuclear weapons as well.

That would be like Hitler making the Holocaust public. Successful dictators are those who operate beneath the facade of being a “good guy”.

[MATTROSE94]

What's the worst-case scenario?

-voter suppression makes it a very, very close race
-Biden edges out just enough votes in just enough states
-Trump says it's voter fraud, and declares himself the winner, saying he won't give up power to Biden
-mass protests break out
-some of those protests turn violent
-Trump makes it seem like all the protesters are violent, and orders the police (even though he can't technically order them) to "shoot to kill" all protesters, and they start happily obliging to in multiple big cities across the country whether there's any violence or not.
-Democratic lawmakers join the protests, trusting that will stop the police from shooting, and some of them are gunned down by police too.
-Electoral College voters decide to vote for Trump in swing states that Biden won, to avoid Trump trying to stay on illegally as some moderate centrist compromise for "law and order."
-It goes to the Supreme Court, which backs up the rogue Electoral College voters, and Trump is certified the winner sometime in mid-December.
-Trump wastes no time in successfully pressuring the DOJ to help states to decide many votes already counted were fraudulent or illegal because they were voted by mail, and races that seemed settled and going to the Democrats in the Senate, House, and State Legislatures now switch to Republican winners.
-2021 begins as a political powderkeg, as the pandemic begins to climb again and is now threatening the supply chains, and we all realize each year of the 2020's is going to be worse than the year before it.

All but the stuff I bolded turned out to be correct in some respects.

[Mr. Third-Wayist]

What's the worst-case scenario?

-voter suppression makes it a very, very close race
-Biden edges out just enough votes in just enough states
-Trump says it's voter fraud, and declares himself the winner, saying he won't give up power to Biden
-mass protests break out
-some of those protests turn violent
-Trump makes it seem like all the protesters are violent, and orders the police (even though he can't technically order them) to "shoot to kill" all protesters, and they start happily obliging to in multiple big cities across the country whether there's any violence or not.
-Democratic lawmakers join the protests, trusting that will stop the police from shooting, and some of them are gunned down by police too.
-Electoral College voters decide to vote for Trump in swing states that Biden won, to avoid Trump trying to stay on illegally as some moderate centrist compromise for "law and order."
-It goes to the Supreme Court, which backs up the rogue Electoral College voters, and Trump is certified the winner sometime in mid-December.
-Trump wastes no time in successfully pressuring the DOJ to help states to decide many votes already counted were fraudulent or illegal because they were voted by mail, and races that seemed settled and going to the Democrats in the Senate, House, and State Legislatures now switch to Republican winners.
-2021 begins as a political powderkeg, as the pandemic begins to climb again and is now threatening the supply chains, and we all realize each year of the 2020's is going to be worse than the year before it.

All but the stuff I bolded turned out to be correct in some respects.

I don’t seem to remember electoral college members voting for trump in Biden states srry...

[MATTROSE94]

What's the worst-case scenario?

-voter suppression makes it a very, very close race
-Biden edges out just enough votes in just enough states
-Trump says it's voter fraud, and declares himself the winner, saying he won't give up power to Biden
-mass protests break out
-some of those protests turn violent
-Trump makes it seem like all the protesters are violent, and orders the police (even though he can't technically order them) to "shoot to kill" all protesters, and they start happily obliging to in multiple big cities across the country whether there's any violence or not.
-Democratic lawmakers join the protests, trusting that will stop the police from shooting, and some of them are gunned down by police too.
-Electoral College voters decide to vote for Trump in swing states that Biden won, to avoid Trump trying to stay on illegally as some moderate centrist compromise for "law and order."
-It goes to the Supreme Court, which backs up the rogue Electoral College voters, and Trump is certified the winner sometime in mid-December.
-Trump wastes no time in successfully pressuring the DOJ to help states to decide many votes already counted were fraudulent or illegal because they were voted by mail, and races that seemed settled and going to the Democrats in the Senate, House, and State Legislatures now switch to Republican winners.
-2021 begins as a political powderkeg, as the pandemic begins to climb again and is now threatening the supply chains, and we all realize each year of the 2020's is going to be worse than the year before it.

All but the stuff I bolded turned out to be correct in some respects.

I don’t seem to remember electoral college members voting for trump in Biden states srry...

There were Trump electors symbolically appointed by Republicans in Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia, so that prediction was kind of correct in my opinion.

[Mr. Third-Wayist]

What's the worst-case scenario?

-voter suppression makes it a very, very close race
-Biden edges out just enough votes in just enough states
-Trump says it's voter fraud, and declares himself the winner, saying he won't give up power to Biden
-mass protests break out
-some of those protests turn violent
-Trump makes it seem like all the protesters are violent, and orders the police (even though he can't technically order them) to "shoot to kill" all protesters, and they start happily obliging to in multiple big cities across the country whether there's any violence or not.
-Democratic lawmakers join the protests, trusting that will stop the police from shooting, and some of them are gunned down by police too.
-Electoral College voters decide to vote for Trump in swing states that Biden won, to avoid Trump trying to stay on illegally as some moderate centrist compromise for "law and order."
-It goes to the Supreme Court, which backs up the rogue Electoral College voters, and Trump is certified the winner sometime in mid-December.
-Trump wastes no time in successfully pressuring the DOJ to help states to decide many votes already counted were fraudulent or illegal because they were voted by mail, and races that seemed settled and going to the Democrats in the Senate, House, and State Legislatures now switch to Republican winners.
-2021 begins as a political powderkeg, as the pandemic begins to climb again and is now threatening the supply chains, and we all realize each year of the 2020's is going to be worse than the year before it.

All but the stuff I bolded turned out to be correct in some respects.

I don’t seem to remember electoral college members voting for trump in Biden states srry...

There were Trump electors symbolically appointed by Republicans in Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia, so that prediction was kind of correct in my opinion.

Damn! Didn’t know I could gain electoral votes by handing out sheets of paper to random ppl! Why didn’t I think of this? I know more than 270 ppl!

[Interlocutor]

Random thread to bump. I don't even remember it when it was active

[Hammy]

How do folks find these one-off threads to bump?

Are they just that bored?

Yes

[Trends Are Fake]

why are any of you bothering to respond to a mattrose bump

[pbrower2a]

What's the worst-case scenario?

-voter suppression makes it a very, very close race
-Biden edges out just enough votes in just enough states
-Trump says it's voter fraud, and declares himself the winner, saying he won't give up power to Biden
-mass protests break out
-some of those protests turn violent
-Trump makes it seem like all the protesters are violent, and orders the police (even though he can't technically order them) to "shoot to kill" all protesters, and they start happily obliging to in multiple big cities across the country whether there's any violence or not.
-Democratic lawmakers join the protests, trusting that will stop the police from shooting, and some of them are gunned down by police too.
-Electoral College voters decide to vote for Trump in swing states that Biden won, to avoid Trump trying to stay on illegally as some moderate centrist compromise for "law and order."
-It goes to the Supreme Court, which backs up the rogue Electoral College voters, and Trump is certified the winner sometime in mid-December.
-Trump wastes no time in successfully pressuring the DOJ to help states to decide many votes already counted were fraudulent or illegal because they were voted by mail, and races that seemed settled and going to the Democrats in the Senate, House, and State Legislatures now switch to Republican winners.
-2021 begins as a political powderkeg, as the pandemic begins to climb again and is now threatening the supply chains, and we all realize each year of the 2020's is going to be worse than the year before it.

Powder-keg? That looks like Russia in 1917, except that the ideology of the political leadership is absolute plutocracy. By the spring of 2021 America has concentration camps and torture chambers, and people "disappear" if they fail to accept the prescribed ideology that no human suffering can be excessive in the enrichment of elites.