Democracy Institute/Sunday Express: Trump +1 nationally, +4 in FL, +2 in MN, +4 in NH
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« on: November 01, 2020, 10:53:01 AM »
« edited: November 01, 2020, 11:02:27 AM by VARepublican »
National
Trump 48%
Biden 47%

FL
Trump 49%
Biden 45%

MN
Trump 48%
Biden 46%

NH
Trump 47%
Biden 43%

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1354506/us-election-2020-donald-trump-win-poll-democracy-institute-joe-biden-swing-states
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2020, 10:53:37 AM »
Wasn’t this “pollster” banned for being fake?
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2020, 10:53:43 AM »
LMFAO, I bet my whole life NH is not flipping. Someone at the Democracy Institute is on something strong.
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2020, 10:54:25 AM »
Quote from: Beida on November 01, 2020, 10:53:43 AM
LMFAO, I bet my whole life NH is not flipping. Someone at the Democracy Institute is on something strong.

And I'd bet my whole life Trump is not winning the popular vote.
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2020, 10:54:45 AM »
Quote from: Beida on November 01, 2020, 10:53:43 AM
LMFAO, I bet my whole life NH is not flipping. Someone at the Democracy Institute is on something strong.

Trump is not winning the popular vote
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2020, 10:54:48 AM »
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White voters: Trump = 53%   Biden = 45%

Black: Trump 19%    Biden = 77%

Hispanic: Trump 39%    Biden = 50%


Feels like they've used these exact same blatantly fake race crosstabs in their last 4 polls (mathematically impossible for Biden vote share to be 45% overall and among white voters).
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2020, 10:55:26 AM »
Still not convinced this isn't a fake pollster.
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2020, 10:56:49 AM »
Didn't Nate Silver kick DemocracyInstitute off 538 for being fake?
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2020, 10:57:54 AM »
Quote from: GeneralMacArthur on November 01, 2020, 10:56:49 AM
Didn't Nate Silver kick DemocracyInstitute off 538 for being fake?

Correct. This pollster doesn't have the receipts to back up its polling, so we should treat it as such.
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2020, 10:58:01 AM »
Actually isn't this an old "poll"? This seems to be their most recent "poll", where they still have nearly identical race crosstabs.
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2020, 10:58:34 AM »
Halloween is over. You can dispense with the pranks.
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2020, 10:59:18 AM »
What did AOC say, we are gonna get a Supermajority Senate since Trump walked away, from Stimulus, she will be eating Crow it this doesn't happen. You don't play with stimulus money to gain politically. Still everything must go wrong for Biden on Election day, but Trump was underestimated in 2016, too
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2020, 11:01:02 AM »
Quote from: Arch on November 01, 2020, 10:57:54 AM
Quote from: GeneralMacArthur on November 01, 2020, 10:56:49 AM
Didn't Nate Silver kick DemocracyInstitute off 538 for being fake?

Correct. This pollster doesn't have the receipts to back up its polling, so we should treat it as such.

And this is considering that Trafalgar is still allowed on there.
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2020, 11:02:56 AM »
Quote from: n1240 on November 01, 2020, 10:54:48 AM
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White voters: Trump = 53%   Biden = 45%

Black: Trump 19%    Biden = 77%

Hispanic: Trump 39%    Biden = 50%


Feels like they've used these exact same blatantly fake race crosstabs in their last 4 polls (mathematically impossible for Biden vote share to be 45% overall and among white voters).

Exactly. Using their crosstabs and using the 2016 share of the electorate the results should be:

47% Biden
43% Trump

If they are even a real polling company, they are giving 90%+ to the white vote and less than 10% for the rest. Plus, in what world would Trump get 40%+ in California?

WAIT A MINUTE!!

This poll is from August!!!
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2020, 11:34:21 AM »
If the Sunday Express is as good at forecasting elections as they are at predicting the winter weather, I ain't worried
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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2020, 11:37:55 AM »
I am sure that Hannity and Carlson will be quoting these polls on their shows tomorrow.
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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2020, 11:40:08 AM »
I think this “poll” should be marked as both “old” and “questionable” if it’s gonna be here at all.
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