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« Reply #450 on: November 01, 2020, 05:33:07 AM »

It's a cause for concern, but probably not a cause for a thread this large.

And yes, I appreciate the irony that this post makes the thread bigger.
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« Reply #451 on: November 01, 2020, 05:40:54 AM »

It's pretty hilarious the thread got this big.
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« Reply #452 on: November 01, 2020, 06:03:55 AM »

Surely this just shows how boring the race has been?
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« Reply #453 on: November 01, 2020, 06:06:34 AM »

It's a cause for concern, but probably not a cause for a thread this large.

And yes, I appreciate the irony that this post makes the thread bigger.

I know this isn't time for memes (I gotta get 'em out before getting down to business on election night), but...this was just too fitting. 

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« Reply #454 on: November 01, 2020, 07:06:05 AM »

LOL - This thread is even more hilarious in the cold light of day.

Random side note:

I might be in the minority here, but participating in this thread last night was a bit cathartic for me if I am going to be honest.

I don't subscribe to doomerism, but I don't think I am the only one who has to admit to an incredible amount of built up anxiety when it comes to this election. We understand what's at stake and despite all the models, polls, and precedents, nobody can be 100% certain of the outcome - even the most level-headed of us.

For me, this poll served as sort of a metaphorical release valve for all that built up anxiety. I know, it's sounds counter-intuitive, but I actually feel better after indulging a bit in the dooming and glooming last night. Glad I got that out of my system. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming Smiley



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« Reply #455 on: November 01, 2020, 09:49:49 AM »

Good lord this thread is going to be an absolute blast to quote Election Day and after.
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« Reply #456 on: November 01, 2020, 10:13:13 AM »

https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/1322916712468172800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1322916712468172800%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html1322916712468172800

Smth seems off here.....

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« Reply #457 on: November 01, 2020, 10:56:17 AM »

20 pages, come on guys we can do it
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« Reply #458 on: November 01, 2020, 11:36:41 AM »

20 pages, come on guys we can do it

We can not keep chasing the past.

Yes #elasticity does exist and some states are more swingy than others but such a rural Midwestern state was never going to easy for Biden to win.

But this poll does seem to be a little flawed. I could easily see Biden barely losing it and Greenfield barely winning it if Biden is indeed winning nationally by over eight points.
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« Reply #459 on: November 01, 2020, 11:39:00 AM »

My God, this has just ruined the reasoning of any Democrat.

I guess they must have shown this poll on CNN because my grandfather is now convinced Trump is winning the election. He claims Jake Tapper just said Trump is gonna win because of this poll.

I can't take anymore of this until Tuesday. The dooming is just too much.
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« Reply #460 on: November 01, 2020, 11:41:13 AM »

Since this poll has caused mass hysteria, I'll do my best to defuse it.

Throw it into the average, people. Iowa was going to be a tough lift for Biden either way. While I don't think Trump wins it again by this much, I can see him favored there.
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« Reply #461 on: November 01, 2020, 11:42:53 AM »

Why is this 19 pages?
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« Reply #462 on: November 01, 2020, 11:44:16 AM »


Because THIS IS ATLAS!
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« Reply #463 on: November 01, 2020, 11:44:23 AM »

Good poll for Trump, suggests Tuesday night wont be a complete massacre.
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« Reply #464 on: November 01, 2020, 11:44:57 AM »

Good poll for Trump, suggests Tuesday night wont be a complete massacre.
Um, this poll is an outlier and the crosstabs are trash.
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« Reply #465 on: November 01, 2020, 11:45:00 AM »

19 pages ayy lmao
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« Reply #466 on: November 01, 2020, 11:45:49 AM »



Because people (foolishly) actually expected Biden to win IA, its time for us to admit that this state is the Republican version of Nevada.
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« Reply #467 on: November 01, 2020, 11:46:52 AM »



Because people (foolishly) actually expected Biden to win IA, its time for us to admit that this state is the Republican version of Nevada.

Not really. The GOP could actually win Nevada if they were winning the popular. Biden needs to win nationally  by 10 points to win Iowa.

In fact the next GOP presidential winner may have to win both NV and NM to win.
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« Reply #468 on: November 01, 2020, 11:47:25 AM »

Good poll for Trump, suggests Tuesday night wont be a complete massacre.
Um, this poll is an outlier and the crosstabs are trash.

It isn't even that, it's just that IA could still drift hard right, but that doesn't mean the rest of the Midwest and surely the Sunbelt would do the same. Maybe for all we know, Trump is collapsing almost everywhere and the only reason he isn't losing by 15+ is because he's keeping it relatively steady compared to 2016 in IA and OH.
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« Reply #469 on: November 01, 2020, 11:48:35 AM »



Because people (foolishly) actually expected Biden to win IA, its time for us to admit that this state is the Republican version of Nevada.

Not really. The GOP could actually win Nevada if they were winning the popular. Biden needs to win nationally  by 10 points to win Iowa.

In fact the next GOP presidential winner may have to win both NV and NM to win.

NV and NM would not fall before AZ and TX, you need to make inroads among Hispanics to win any of the four, and the whites in AZ and TX are much easier than the ones in NM.
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« Reply #470 on: November 01, 2020, 11:48:56 AM »

I am not predicting it but Missouri could end up being closer than Iowa. If the Midwestern suburban Biden surge is real.
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« Reply #471 on: November 01, 2020, 11:53:39 AM »

20 pages incoming

Here's a cute video compilation of babies playing with dogs to assuage the doomers:

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« Reply #472 on: November 01, 2020, 11:58:37 AM »


Yeah... I’m starting to wonder if there was some kind of organized manipulation of this poll by Trump supporters somehow.
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« Reply #473 on: November 01, 2020, 11:59:15 AM »

Um, the last Selzer poll showed Feenstra leading by only 5, but no one called it an outlier because muh crosstabs.

(I’m not saying that I don’t think this poll is an outlier)
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« Reply #474 on: November 01, 2020, 12:00:54 PM »

So apparently this was the deleted text:

https://pastebin.com/raw/gYVALf47

I’m REALLY starting to think this poll was compromised. After a screw-up in the primaries too, Selzer is in real danger of losing “gold standard” status for good.
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