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« on: October 23, 2020, 02:02:28 PM »

For me, it would probably be some pretty massive polling error. I feel pretty comfortable about the fundamentals of my mode, but at this point it comes down to the polls
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2020, 02:08:29 PM »

Democracy died.

Let me elaborate: I don't think even a massive polling error could do it, because this isn't 1948 (when Gallup was pretty much the only pollster and their last poll was like over a month before the election, missing all the tightening, never mind the advances in polling since then). And a 2016 sized error in Trump's favor couldn't even save him.

So the only way it happens is if the election is literally rigged, by internal and/or external forces hostile to democracy.
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2020, 02:13:08 PM »

Biden approached 500 electoral votes and 60 senators.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2020, 02:14:22 PM »

Biden approached 500 electoral votes and 60 senators.

Now that's a more optimistic way of looking at it, lol.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2020, 02:18:10 PM »

People came home to the incumbent. I don't expect it to happen.
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2020, 02:20:17 PM »

Option 1: The 5 states that I am predicting Trump wins by < 3 (Iowa, Ohio, Florida, Texas, and Georgia) turn out to be "there yet."

Option 2: Polls missed something very fundamental about the electorate in multiple regions. Probably not shy Trump voters, but more like "oh, we forgot to weight by level of interest in politics and we seriously over-sampled highly engaged voters who it turns out skewed heavily pro-Biden across all other demographic controls."
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2020, 03:01:06 PM »
« Edited: October 23, 2020, 03:04:15 PM by Single Issue Covid Voter »

I rightfully get mocked for years while President Biden likely wins a huge victory and gets a solid trifecta. Hopefully we can get some real healthcare, electoral, and judicial reforms.
Also I gotta love the overconfidence of Atlas, it’s very fitting.
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2020, 03:03:40 PM »

I rightfully get mocked for years while President Biden likely wins a huge victory and gets a solid trifecta.
Also, I gotta love the overconfidence of Atlas right now. It’s just so fitting.

Okay doomer
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2020, 03:06:00 PM »

Either...

1) 0 Democrats voted on Election Day

or

2) Republicans and Democrats basically tied the ED vote, and it ended up bein an absolute tsunami for Democrats.
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2020, 03:22:18 PM »

Biden approached 500 electoral votes and 60 senators.

Jones, McGrath, Espy and HEGAR are done, it won't be 60 votes
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2020, 03:28:11 PM »
« Edited: October 23, 2020, 04:49:47 PM by Hammy »

Depends.

If Trump actually wins in places I don't think he will, then (save for PA where it'd likely be due to unfair counting) I will buy into the "shy R voter" theory

If it's off in the other direction and Biden picks up states I don't presently expect (namely the Sunbelt trio) then it'll mean I know less about trends and statistics than I thought, and readily admit to such.
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2020, 03:28:43 PM »

An destructive asteroid crashed into this world which ended all life on the planet, truthfully.
Texas, in that I don't think the margin will be any bigger than the 2.6% that Cruz won by
the consensus is already tx  =  tossup afaik.
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2020, 03:29:44 PM »

The GOP's gains with non-college Black and Latino men were completely fictional and/or the Democrat's gains with college-educated women were overstated.
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2020, 03:30:50 PM »

An destructive asteroid crashed into this world which ended all life on the planet, truthfully.
Texas, in that I don't think the margin will be any bigger than the 2.6% that Cruz won by
the consensus is already tx  =  tossup afaik.

Why are you responding to me in a thread I haven't commented in?
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2020, 03:31:28 PM »

The GOP's gains with non-college Black and Latino men were completely fictional and/or the Democrat's gains with college-educated women were overstated.

The latter is definitely not overstated, that's my prediction.
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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2020, 03:32:46 PM »

An destructive asteroid crashed into this world which ended all life on the planet, truthfully.
Texas, in that I don't think the margin will be any bigger than the 2.6% that Cruz won by
the consensus is already tx  =  tossup afaik.

Why are you responding to me in a thread I haven't commented in?
i'm not Even?
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« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2020, 03:35:10 PM »

An destructive asteroid crashed into this world which ended all life on the planet, truthfully.
Texas, in that I don't think the margin will be any bigger than the 2.6% that Cruz won by
the consensus is already tx  =  tossup afaik.

You've done that twice already
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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2020, 04:20:45 PM »

Biden managed to snatch NC, FL, etc. where I have him losing in by a hair rn.
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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2020, 04:21:03 PM »

Biden landslide - had too much of a lingering doubt and viewed trump as a favorite for too long

Trump landslide - I drank the atlas cool aid too much by the end of the election
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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2020, 05:34:32 PM »

Didn't pay too much attention to early voting.
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« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2020, 05:38:28 PM »

I drank the atlas cool aid too much by the end of the election
And ya dint even know the favor. Wink
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« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2020, 06:24:11 PM »

I’ve been predicting a Biden popular vote win by 9 points for the last 6 months, and I am sticking with that out of principle.

At this point, I think that if this prediction is significantly wrong, it is more likely to be in Biden’s direction than Trumps (i.e. a 15-point Biden victory is more likely that a 3-point PV victory/EC loss).

If that happens, it will probably be a combination of things, most significantly:
- Unprecedented overall turnout led by increased early and mail-in voting opportunities
- Depressed turnout on election day due to covid fears and Republican apathy or hopelessness
- Dispartities in GOTV efforts dues to lack of fund and incompetence by the Trump campaign
- Pollsters overcorrecting for perceived mistakes in 2016
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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2020, 06:24:27 PM »

It's why I'm not making a formal prediction until November 2.
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« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2020, 06:48:36 PM »

This is a Covid 19 election, we didn't know D's were gonna win 40 seats in 2018 either
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« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2020, 06:49:41 PM »

Democrats underestimated white Americans' apathy at BLM, it's not 2050 yet.
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