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« Reply #125 on: February 22, 2021, 01:28:52 AM »

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« Reply #126 on: February 22, 2021, 02:30:38 AM »

Lasry appeals to the base, Black men who are NBA fans

We'll see.
I get it's your shtick to say quasi-racist things and stereotype leftists without going overboard to avoid the mods but you should probably  off anyway
He appeals to the base. Younger liberals, Black voters. There is nothing racist about what I said.

... I’m positive that most people do not know the owner of their favorite basketball team, much less the Senior Vice President.
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« Reply #127 on: February 22, 2021, 11:55:07 AM »

Lasry appeals to the base, Black men who are NBA fans

We'll see.
I get it's your shtick to say quasi-racist things and stereotype leftists without going overboard to avoid the mods but you should probably  off anyway
He appeals to the base. Younger liberals, Black voters. There is nothing racist about what I said.

Just stupid lol...
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« Reply #128 on: February 23, 2021, 10:25:21 PM »

I am assuming that Johnson is likely going to announce that he's not going to run again.

Why? All of his recent political commentary would indicate he's gearing up for another culture war-driven election campaign.

Because Johnson keeps saying crazy, stupid things. He keeps on shooting himself in the foot. After saying something like this, he'd be crazy to try to run for re-election, as if he thinks he can still win.
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« Reply #129 on: February 23, 2021, 10:35:50 PM »

I am assuming that Johnson is likely going to announce that he's not going to run again.

Why? All of his recent political commentary would indicate he's gearing up for another culture war-driven election campaign.

Because Johnson keeps saying crazy, stupid things. He keeps on shooting himself in the foot. After saying something like this, he'd be crazy to try to run for re-election, as if he thinks he can still win.
At the same time though, everybody thought he was DOA in 2016 and he managed to win in an upset. So he could probably just yell “the polls are wrong, they were wrong in 16 and almost were wrong in 2020” and convince many Republicans.
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« Reply #130 on: March 04, 2021, 09:08:25 AM »

Have heard through the grapevine that Mandela Barnes has been interviewing campaign staff. Not sure if this is for a Senate campaign, potential Evers retirement, or worry about a primary for his current seat.
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« Reply #131 on: March 04, 2021, 11:17:30 AM »
« Edited: March 04, 2021, 11:28:02 AM by MR. KAYNE WEST »

Johnson is gonna lose anyways regardless of if it's Barnes or Nelson, due to fact D's keep gaining seats in every Election cycle in the state legislatures. That's what Rs on the forum don't understand that it's only a matter of time Ds take both Houses of state legislatures in PA, MI and WI

But, Barnes still has a yr to jump into primary for Senate, Evers is running for reelection

Also, Johnson keeps objecting to the 1200 and 1400 checks, and would objected to it if Rs were in the Senate Majority, that goodness we won Majority
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« Reply #132 on: March 04, 2021, 12:38:07 PM »

Have heard through the grapevine that Mandela Barnes has been interviewing campaign staff. Not sure if this is for a Senate campaign, potential Evers retirement, or worry about a primary for his current seat.

the last two seem very unlikely compared to the first one
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« Reply #133 on: March 04, 2021, 09:02:21 PM »

Because Johnson keeps saying crazy, stupid things. He keeps on shooting himself in the foot. After saying something like this, he'd be crazy to try to run for re-election, as if he thinks he can still win.

That’s not how these things work, in general. You may be overestimating (a) how tuned in voters are to his 'gaffes', (b) how many voters actually consider them 'gaffes' rather than agreeing with him/accepting his branding, (c) how salient of an issue these 'gaffes' will be after two years under a Democratic trifecta which is going to pass a lot of unpopular legislation.

Sure, the Democratic base is going to be fired up to vote him out, but they were already fired up to vote against Republicans across the board anyway. Any R Senate candidate here is going to need the Trump base to come out, and Johnson is well suited to energizing them and taking advantage of the rural/small-town R trend to offset some losses in WOW (where he should still run a few %-points ahead of Trump, even if it’s not more than 3-4%). Based on the fundamentals of the election alone, it would be crazy to assert that "he can’t win again."
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« Reply #134 on: March 05, 2021, 01:52:26 AM »
« Edited: March 05, 2021, 01:59:34 AM by MR. KAYNE WEST »

Johnson only won by 300 K votes not a landslide just like Rs only won NC by 150 K votes and we have Gov Cooper and Rs now think that NC is a permanent red state

D's are poised to win both

Unlike FL where DeSANTIS would be far more Vulnerable I'd he was running with Scott, whom almost cost him the Gov in 2018 than running with Rubio. FL isn't in play this time around

Biden improved on Hillary performance in WOW county.
Dems have a 2/3 chance to flip both WI, PA and keep GA and
for a 52/48 Senate and a 1/3hancee to win NC and we don't have a Gov candidate for OH

Dems can beat DeWine in a wave if John Cranley mounts a candidacy
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« Reply #135 on: March 06, 2021, 05:43:46 PM »

Ron Johnson hasn't made a decision on running again, but says he's leaning towards retirement.

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epublican U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson, who has taken center stage this week in objecting to a $1.9 trillion COVID-19 bill, said he hasn’t yet decided whether he’ll run for his seat in 2022, although he said keeping to his pledge to not seek a third term is “probably my preference now.”

Johnson, of Oshkosh, is openly considering a third term despite Democratic challengers already lining up to challenge him and his pronouncement while running for a second term in 2016 that it would be his last.

“That pledge is on my mind, it was my preference then, I would say it’s probably my preference now,” Johnson said during a Friday media call. “I’m happy to go home.”

But he added a big caveat.

“I think that pledge was based on the assumption we wouldn’t have Democrats in total control of government and we’re seeing what I would consider the devastating and harmful effects of Democrats’ total control just ramming things through,” he said.

Johnson told WTMJ radio Friday that he hasn’t made up his mind on a third term and doesn’t think he needs to decide anytime soon.

“The only people who want me to decide right now are consultants, and particularly the consultants of other people who may want to run for the U.S. Senate seat, they’d like to start raising money and start making money right off the bat,” Johnson said. “I think it’ll save everybody a lot of money by just holding tight and making a decision when I’m ready to.”

Already, Outagamie County Executive Tom Nelson, Milwaukee Bucks executive Alex Lasry and Marshfield radiologist Gillian Battino have announced 2022 U.S. Senate bids as Democrats.

Democratic state Treasurer Sarah Godlewski and U.S. Rep. Ron Kind, D-La Crosse, are also each mulling a bid.
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« Reply #136 on: March 07, 2021, 08:44:10 AM »

Kind would be an A+ recruit. Godlewski a B recruit (nothing against her other than nobody cares about the state treasurer, and as a result low name recognition). She did win statewide, so there’s that.

Nelson is a C- recruit I’d say, everybody else is a D or F.

When I say poor recruit, it’s nothing personal to them, and maybe they could win, but if a radiologist from Marshfield and a Bucks executive are your best recruit, I’m skeptical. But hey, maybe they are charismatic and people really like them and they win
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« Reply #137 on: March 07, 2021, 08:59:05 AM »

Kind isn't running, he wants to be Gov, in 2026 Barnes may enter race, but Tom NELSON had the money ADVANTAGE.

But Barnes have a better chance to def a WC candidate than In PA and NC. Jackson, Fetterman, and Ryan are well liked by WC Females that no longer watch Fox, but watch CSPAN, to Insurrectionists
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« Reply #138 on: March 07, 2021, 09:11:55 AM »

Kind would be an A+ recruit. Godlewski a B recruit (nothing against her other than nobody cares about the state treasurer, and as a result low name recognition). She did win statewide, so there’s that.

Nelson is a C- recruit I’d say, everybody else is a D or F.

When I say poor recruit, it’s nothing personal to them, and maybe they could win, but if a radiologist from Marshfield and a Bucks executive are your best recruit, I’m skeptical. But hey, maybe they are charismatic and people really like them and they win

I don’t know as much about some of these folks (and I’m sure you know more than I do), but I get the sense that if nothing else, Alex Lasry is pretty well connected politically and seems to have some real institutional support from the Milwaukee Democratic establishment that was lined up before he even got in the race.  

This does make me wonder if he’s got better political chops than his resume might suggest, although I suppose he could also just be a major WI Democratic donor who is calling in favors.  I imagine we’ll find out sooner rather than later.

I do agree that Kind would probably be our best recruit.  That said, Wisconsin seems to be very much a turnout state at this point, so candidate quality is less important here - at least to a point - than it is in a state like Pennsylvania.

Btw, how would you grade Mandela Barnes as a potential Senate recruit?  
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« Reply #139 on: March 07, 2021, 09:56:28 AM »

Kind would be an A+ recruit. Godlewski a B recruit (nothing against her other than nobody cares about the state treasurer, and as a result low name recognition). She did win statewide, so there’s that.

Nelson is a C- recruit I’d say, everybody else is a D or F.

When I say poor recruit, it’s nothing personal to them, and maybe they could win, but if a radiologist from Marshfield and a Bucks executive are your best recruit, I’m skeptical. But hey, maybe they are charismatic and people really like them and they win

I don’t know as much about some of these folks (and I’m sure you know more than I do), but I get the sense that if nothing else, Alex Lasry is pretty well connected politically and seems to have some real institutional support from the Milwaukee Democratic establishment that was lined up before he even got in the race. 

This does make me wonder if he’s got better political chops than his resume might suggest, although I suppose he could also just be a major WI Democratic donor who is calling in favors.  I imagine we’ll find out sooner rather than later.

I do agree that Kind would probably be our best recruit.  That said, Wisconsin seems to be very much a turnout state at this point, so candidate quality is less important here - at least to a point - than it is in a state like Pennsylvania.

Btw, how would you grade Mandela Barnes as a potential Senate recruit? 
Regarding Lasry, I follow WI politics pretty closely and I haven’t heard of him ever. Maybe he is a connected donor or something that I haven’t seen.

Barnes I think would be a bad recruit, because WOW. After the Jacob Blake shooting, he got on TV with some statement that police are just killers and have a vendetta against black people. I have a feeling that WOW and the Fox Valley would be really turned off by some of his comments, as well as a scandal of continuously unpaid property taxes on his condos in Milwaukee. I don’t think it would play really well in the Fox Valley or WOW, and it’s super easy to run against the city of Milwaukee or Madison in this state. Kind isn’t a “radical Madison liberal” (scary voice in the attack ad) and I don’t think the socialism label would stick to him. I think he would play pretty well in WOW (probably mid to high 30s) and decent in the Fox Valley. He would also have the advantage of padding the margins in the Driftless a bit.
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« Reply #140 on: March 07, 2021, 01:01:04 PM »

Kind would be an A+ recruit. Godlewski a B recruit (nothing against her other than nobody cares about the state treasurer, and as a result low name recognition). She did win statewide, so there’s that.

Nelson is a C- recruit I’d say, everybody else is a D or F.

When I say poor recruit, it’s nothing personal to them, and maybe they could win, but if a radiologist from Marshfield and a Bucks executive are your best recruit, I’m skeptical. But hey, maybe they are charismatic and people really like them and they win

I don’t know as much about some of these folks (and I’m sure you know more than I do), but I get the sense that if nothing else, Alex Lasry is pretty well connected politically and seems to have some real institutional support from the Milwaukee Democratic establishment that was lined up before he even got in the race. 

This does make me wonder if he’s got better political chops than his resume might suggest, although I suppose he could also just be a major WI Democratic donor who is calling in favors.  I imagine we’ll find out sooner rather than later.

I do agree that Kind would probably be our best recruit.  That said, Wisconsin seems to be very much a turnout state at this point, so candidate quality is less important here - at least to a point - than it is in a state like Pennsylvania.

Btw, how would you grade Mandela Barnes as a potential Senate recruit? 
Regarding Lasry, I follow WI politics pretty closely and I haven’t heard of him ever. Maybe he is a connected donor or something that I haven’t seen.

Barnes I think would be a bad recruit, because WOW. After the Jacob Blake shooting, he got on TV with some statement that police are just killers and have a vendetta against black people. I have a feeling that WOW and the Fox Valley would be really turned off by some of his comments, as well as a scandal of continuously unpaid property taxes on his condos in Milwaukee. I don’t think it would play really well in the Fox Valley or WOW, and it’s super easy to run against the city of Milwaukee or Madison in this state. Kind isn’t a “radical Madison liberal” (scary voice in the attack ad) and I don’t think the socialism label would stick to him. I think he would play pretty well in WOW (probably mid to high 30s) and decent in the Fox Valley. He would also have the advantage of padding the margins in the Driftless a bit.

In that case, Barnes is definitely not the guy we should run here.  Hopefully Kind decides to run!
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« Reply #141 on: March 07, 2021, 01:14:43 PM »

I think we should let the voters decide not pollsters, if Barnes enters and a poll shows he competetive, I will support him, but we can't afford to lose Fetterman and Jackson whom have natl D's behind them
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« Reply #142 on: April 04, 2021, 10:04:21 AM »

Kind would be an A+ recruit. Godlewski a B recruit (nothing against her other than nobody cares about the state treasurer, and as a result low name recognition). She did win statewide, so there’s that.

Nelson is a C- recruit I’d say, everybody else is a D or F.

When I say poor recruit, it’s nothing personal to them, and maybe they could win, but if a radiologist from Marshfield and a Bucks executive are your best recruit, I’m skeptical. But hey, maybe they are charismatic and people really like them and they win

I think you're under-rating Godlewski (though a B is still good!).  At the moment, I think she's the best candidate Democrats could run.
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« Reply #143 on: April 04, 2021, 04:04:44 PM »

RoJo has hurt his support in the MKE suburbs with his far-right rhetoric, and will do worse than Trump in the west if Ron Kind is the nominee.
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« Reply #144 on: April 04, 2021, 04:24:49 PM »

Kind would be an A+ recruit. Godlewski a B recruit (nothing against her other than nobody cares about the state treasurer, and as a result low name recognition). She did win statewide, so there’s that.

Nelson is a C- recruit I’d say, everybody else is a D or F.

When I say poor recruit, it’s nothing personal to them, and maybe they could win, but if a radiologist from Marshfield and a Bucks executive are your best recruit, I’m skeptical. But hey, maybe they are charismatic and people really like them and they win

I think you're under-rating Godlewski (though a B is still good!).  At the moment, I think she's the best candidate Democrats could run.

Maybe I am. The treasurer in this state has very little power and low name recognition. She doesn’t have any major scandals or glaring issues I could see. I still think Kind would be the best since he
has a constant track record of winning in difficult races, and perceived moderation. Although I think Sarah would be a decent recruit.
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« Reply #145 on: April 04, 2021, 04:26:27 PM »

Any updates on Barnes getting in?
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« Reply #146 on: April 14, 2021, 05:37:47 AM »

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/14/politics/sarah-godlewski-senate-run-ron-johnson/index.html

Wisconsin Treasurer Sarah Godlewski launches Senate campaign as Ron Johnson freezes GOP field
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« Reply #147 on: April 14, 2021, 11:21:48 AM »

“There is no God”-lewski
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« Reply #148 on: April 14, 2021, 12:37:15 PM »

Congratulations on winning back the Treasurer's office, Republicans.
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« Reply #149 on: April 14, 2021, 12:46:39 PM »

Congratulations on winning back the Treasurer's office, Republicans.
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JOHNSON is gonna lose
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