Orthodox Jews: Trump +70

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

Modern Orthodox clearly swung massively towards Clinton in 2016 and clearly voted for her. Even though there are far more Haredim than Modern Orthodox, the former are very skewed towards the young and vote at lower rates. It's not clear at all to me how "Orthodox Jews" voted as a whole in 2016, even if we can say a lot about how particular neighborhoods voted.

I think it's likely that Modern Orthodox swing massively to Trump, given that Bannon is gone and he's a good soldier for Israel but this is only electoral trivia and has no bearing on what happens in swing states due to where they live. Haredim already voted en bloc for Trump and will do so again. This doesn't matter.

I'm certainly interested in knowing if Modern Orthodox are angry at Cuomo for discriminating against the Haredim in public pronouncements. I have no idea what they'd think about this. It seems pretty clear that Reform and Conservative Jews loathe the Haredim and wish them the worst in life.

[Horus]

As a Jew myself, it pains me that fellow Jews may be overwhelmingly backing the dude who couldn't even bring himself to confirm that David Duke is indeed an asshole.

I mean, c'mon!

But he moved a building in Israel!

[Progressive Pessimist]

Modern Orthodox clearly swung massively towards Clinton in 2016 and clearly voted for her. Even though there are far more Haredim than Modern Orthodox, the former are very skewed towards the young and vote at lower rates. It's not clear at all to me how "Orthodox Jews" voted as a whole in 2016, even if we can say a lot about how particular neighborhoods voted.

I think it's likely that Modern Orthodox swing massively to Trump, given that Bannon is gone and he's a good soldier for Israel but this is only electoral trivia and has no bearing on what happens in swing states due to where they live. Haredim already voted en bloc for Trump and will do so again. This doesn't matter.

I'm certainly interested in knowing if Modern Orthodox are angry at Cuomo for discriminating against the Haredim in public pronouncements. I have no idea what they'd think about this. It seems pretty clear that Reform and Conservative Jews loathe the Haredim and wish them the worst in life.

That's a bit unfair. We just want them to wear some damn masks and recognize how Trump has enabled antisemitism.

[Middle-aged Europe]

As a Jew myself, it pains me that fellow Jews may be overwhelmingly backing the dude who couldn't even bring himself to confirm that David Duke is indeed an asshole.

I mean, c'mon!

But he moved a building in Israel!

Well, the people who worked in that buildung anyway.

[Horus]

Modern Orthodox clearly swung massively towards Clinton in 2016 and clearly voted for her. Even though there are far more Haredim than Modern Orthodox, the former are very skewed towards the young and vote at lower rates. It's not clear at all to me how "Orthodox Jews" voted as a whole in 2016, even if we can say a lot about how particular neighborhoods voted.

I think it's likely that Modern Orthodox swing massively to Trump, given that Bannon is gone and he's a good soldier for Israel but this is only electoral trivia and has no bearing on what happens in swing states due to where they live. Haredim already voted en bloc for Trump and will do so again. This doesn't matter.

I'm certainly interested in knowing if Modern Orthodox are angry at Cuomo for discriminating against the Haredim in public pronouncements. I have no idea what they'd think about this. It seems pretty clear that Reform and Conservative Jews loathe the Haredim and wish them the worst in life.

That's a bit unfair. We just want them to wear some damn masks and recognize how Trump has enabled antisemitism.

Nah, they're too far gone at this point. I don't hate them per se but they're in another world and are completely antithetical to American values. No room for dissent or free thought in their ranks.

Look at what they did to this poor man who was trying to report on their dangerous ways. He was Hasidic as well but they didn't care. It's a cult and increasingly a violent one.

www.haaretz.com/amp/jewish/leader-of-haredi-anti-lockdown-new-york-protests-to-be-arrested-for-inciting-a-riot-1.9225910

[Badger]

My family is Orthodox Jewish, although not ultra-religious. They are much more supportive of Trump this year than they were in 2016.

Just curious, why? Is it the embassy thing? The naked islamophobia? Serious question.

[Tekken_Guy]

My family is Orthodox Jewish, although not ultra-religious. They are much more supportive of Trump this year than they were in 2016.

Just curious, why? Is it the embassy thing? The naked islamophobia? Serious question.

They are really worried about “the radical left”. Also Israel.

[Badger]

My family is Orthodox Jewish, although not ultra-religious. They are much more supportive of Trump this year than they were in 2016.

Just curious, why? Is it the embassy thing? The naked islamophobia? Serious question.

They are really worried about “the radical left”. Also Israel.

Ah. Let me guess. The type of Jews who feel " uncomfortable" and personally threatened by BLM marches? "Remember Crown Heights!" types?

[Tekken_Guy]

My family is Orthodox Jewish, although not ultra-religious. They are much more supportive of Trump this year than they were in 2016.

Just curious, why? Is it the embassy thing? The naked islamophobia? Serious question.

They are really worried about “the radical left”. Also Israel.

Ah. Let me guess. The type of Jews who feel " uncomfortable" and personally threatened by BLM marches? "Remember Crown Heights!" types?

Yeah. In fact, they actually feel sympathy for him because of the way the media covers him.

[Mopsus]

www.haaretz.com/amp/jewish/leader-of-haredi-anti-lockdown-new-york-protests-to-be-arrested-for-inciting-a-riot-1.9225910

Is that a Gadsen flag in that picture?

[jaymichaud]

What is it about Orthodox Jews that makes them SO Republican? Are they very socially conservative?

Yeah. They’re not the topics of discussion every time they go to shul but they tend to be pro-life, they aren’t too big on gay rights (they don’t hate gays, but they tend to think they shouldn’t “show it off” and should keep it in their homes or clubs), they almost never have interfaith marriages, tend to support private schooling, I can go on really.

[TheLaRocca]

Not a big surprise.  Will be interesting to see precinct-level swings in Haredi-heavy parts of Brooklyn. 

Already vote 80+% GOP.

[Hollywood]

Cuomo and de Blasio went from treating Hasidim as public enemy #1 for holding public gatherings to encouraging BLM marches within a matter of days without even reversing their position on the former.

I've always agreed with most of the complaints - the harassment of woman who walk through the wrong neighborhoods unaccompanied, the interference with public schools, etc. - but the pandemic response showed just how quickly the scapegoating begins in any crisis. De Blasio's tweet about "the Jewish community" was just stupid, but it's hard to fault anyone for resenting that treatment.

This moment shook a lot of Jewish communities across the country, especially when they looked back at the way the ultraorthodox were treated in relation to Antifa and BLM rioters.  It was very reminiscent of anti-Semetism tactics used by the Social Democrats and Marxists in the early 1900s. 

[H. Ross Peron]

Cuomo and de Blasio went from treating Hasidim as public enemy #1 for holding public gatherings to encouraging BLM marches within a matter of days without even reversing their position on the former.

I've always agreed with most of the complaints - the harassment of woman who walk through the wrong neighborhoods unaccompanied, the interference with public schools, etc. - but the pandemic response showed just how quickly the scapegoating begins in any crisis. De Blasio's tweet about "the Jewish community" was just stupid, but it's hard to fault anyone for resenting that treatment.

This moment shook a lot of Jewish communities across the country, especially when they looked back at the way the ultraorthodox were treated in relation to Antifa and BLM rioters.  It was very reminiscent of anti-Semetism tactics used by the Social Democrats and Marxists in the early 1900s. 

When were Social Democrats anti-Semitic?