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« on: October 22, 2020, 09:23:36 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2020, 09:24:28 AM »

While county polls aren't usually the greatest in terms of analyzing the state of an electorate, this is still pretty devastating for Trump. 
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2020, 09:25:14 AM »

This actually makes sense. Snapping back quite a bit, but not at Wolf/Casey levels. Which would make sense if Biden was up ~8 statewide

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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2020, 09:28:02 AM »

Was this poll done before or after Trump held a rally in Erie, complained that he had do it, whined about the cold and left early?
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2020, 09:28:42 AM »

Lines up with Kelly's internals only having Trump up 9-10 in his district.
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2020, 09:28:56 AM »

Is this the one 538 banned? Or is that a different one?
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2020, 09:30:03 AM »

This is Trump's base - white, working class blue collar manufacturing. This is the data point that speaks to his collapse in upstate NY, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa.
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2020, 09:31:03 AM »

County will swing back pretty hard, Obama-Trump voters come home to Dems.
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2020, 09:32:18 AM »


ERIE JOE!
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2020, 09:33:07 AM »

Banned by 538, with a F rating..

Junk it.
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2020, 10:06:50 AM »

Yeah, 538 thinks they make up their numbers. Not sure what the difference is between that and what Trafalger does however.
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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2020, 10:10:05 AM »


PENNSYLVANIA JOE!
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2020, 10:13:15 AM »

While county polls aren't usually the greatest in terms of analyzing the state of an electorate, this is still pretty devastating for Trump. 

What if this is offset by a 15% swing for TRUMP in Philadelphia County? I lived in New Jersey in the summer which is basically the Philadelphia suburbs and I can confirm there are hundreds of thousands of silent Trump supporters in Philadelphia
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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2020, 10:28:30 AM »

While county polls aren't usually the greatest in terms of analyzing the state of an electorate, this is still pretty devastating for Trump. 

What if this is offset by a 15% swing for TRUMP in Philadelphia County? I lived in New Jersey in the summer which is basically the Philadelphia suburbs and I can confirm there are hundreds of thousands of silent Trump supporters in Philadelphia


If they're silent how can you confirm it?
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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2020, 10:31:56 AM »

While county polls aren't usually the greatest in terms of analyzing the state of an electorate, this is still pretty devastating for Trump. 

What if this is offset by a 15% swing for TRUMP in Philadelphia County? I lived in New Jersey in the summer which is basically the Philadelphia suburbs and I can confirm there are hundreds of thousands of silent Trump supporters in Philadelphia


You can confirm hundreds of thousands??

This must be an /s post by DTC xD
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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2020, 10:32:35 AM »

Now that is a Freedom Poll!
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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2020, 10:37:41 AM »

While county polls aren't usually the greatest in terms of analyzing the state of an electorate, this is still pretty devastating for Trump.  

What if this is offset by a 15% swing for TRUMP in Philadelphia County? I lived in New Jersey in the summer which is basically the Philadelphia suburbs and I can confirm there are hundreds of thousands of silent Trump supporters in Philadelphia


You can confirm hundreds of thousands??

This must be an /s post by DTC xD


All of my posts are serious
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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2020, 11:16:12 AM »

While county polls aren't usually the greatest in terms of analyzing the state of an electorate, this is still pretty devastating for Trump. 

What if this is offset by a 15% swing for TRUMP in Philadelphia County? I lived in New Jersey in the summer which is basically the Philadelphia suburbs and I can confirm there are hundreds of thousands of silent Trump supporters in Philadelphia


You can confirm hundreds of thousands??

This must be an /s post by DTC xD


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Ok but what are you basing it on? How do you know there are hundreds of thousands of shy Trump supporters in Philly?
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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2020, 11:19:57 AM »

It's obvious that R polls are going by same day voting like Trafalgar and D polls are including early voting, we have been seeing this dynamic for the entire month, that's why Trump only have a small lead, which can be overcome with VBM
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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2020, 12:03:10 PM »

While county polls aren't usually the greatest in terms of analyzing the state of an electorate, this is still pretty devastating for Trump. 

What if this is offset by a 15% swing for TRUMP in Philadelphia County? I lived in New Jersey in the summer which is basically the Philadelphia suburbs and I can confirm there are hundreds of thousands of silent Trump supporters in Philadelphia


So you met the people who voted for Trump in 2016 and will vote for him again? That means utterly nothing.
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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2020, 03:04:46 PM »

While county polls aren't usually the greatest in terms of analyzing the state of an electorate, this is still pretty devastating for Trump. 

What if this is offset by a 15% swing for TRUMP in Philadelphia County? I lived in New Jersey in the summer which is basically the Philadelphia suburbs and I can confirm there are hundreds of thousands of silent Trump supporters in Philadelphia

Anecdotal evidence is not scientific evidence when it comes to determining what public opinion really looks like.  Not only that, but the mountains of scientific evidence we do have shows that what you posted here doesn't connect with reality.  Would you care to try again and provide something any of us can take seriously?  If you're not willing to do that, what was the point of posting?
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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2020, 03:21:19 PM »

While county polls aren't usually the greatest in terms of analyzing the state of an electorate, this is still pretty devastating for Trump. 

What if this is offset by a 15% swing for TRUMP in Philadelphia County? I lived in New Jersey in the summer which is basically the Philadelphia suburbs and I can confirm there are hundreds of thousands of silent Trump supporters in Philadelphia

Anecdotal evidence is not scientific evidence when it comes to determining what public opinion really looks like.  Not only that, but the mountains of scientific evidence we do have shows that what you posted here doesn't connect with reality.  Would you care to try again and provide something any of us can take seriously?  If you're not willing to do that, what was the point of posting?

I'm quite sure DTC was being sarcastic.
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« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2020, 03:46:37 PM »

This plus gains in Philly suburbs and strong turnout in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh will put Uncle Joe over the top.
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« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2020, 05:31:38 PM »

Banned by 538, with a F rating..

Junk it.

Damn it. Just as I was getting optimistic
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« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2020, 05:36:21 PM »

Banned by 538, with a F rating..

Junk it.

Damn it. Just as I was getting optimistic

It was banned and given the F rating on the basis of previous non-scientific surveys. It has since demarcated these from its newer, scientific ones (including this county poll) but has not yet been successfully vetted by 538 (and it's been more than long enough so it's probable there's somethings suspicious about the pollster, although there doesn't seem to be much wrong with them on the surface).
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