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« on: October 22, 2020, 11:23:23 AM »
I’m betting Trump does better.

Expectations are so low for him after the first debate and the town hall.

Plus, with muted mics there’s less chance for him to interrupt and act like an idiot, so by default he’ll look more appealing to low information voters.
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2020, 02:39:39 PM »
Quote from: Gass3268 on October 22, 2020, 02:12:39 PM
Meadows claims Trump has tested negative:




I wouldn't trust this at all.

He was supposed to be tested last time too, and they shirked out on that.  There's no reason to believe he's tested negative now.
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2020, 06:22:20 PM »
Literally who is Tony Bobulinski?

I don’t even care.
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2020, 08:08:06 PM »
Trump is talking about his COVID recovery and the medicine and treatment he received....that no one else will be able to get themselves.
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2020, 08:25:12 PM »
The new format is helping Trump.

He doesn’t have a chance to look like a mean spirited fool.

I think expectations were so low for Trump after the last debate that this time he looks “better.”
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2020, 08:33:31 PM »
Quote from: Non Swing Voter (FL Dems to 600k) on October 22, 2020, 08:32:08 PM
LOL - I think Trump thought that if he was more polite this time he'd win the debate, even absent any good facts or argument.


He may be right.

The average voter is a moron.  They don’t know facts or context.  They only know the optics.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2020, 08:35:47 PM »
Quote from: Monstro Doesn't Believe in a Blue Texas & a Blue Georgia on October 22, 2020, 08:34:16 PM
Wow, Trump is a lot more polished and relaxed. He's killing it so far.




Will Horus, Buzz, Trump Virus, etc. be hackish enough to like this?


I will Cheesy

But real talk I don’t want Trump to do well.
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2020, 08:40:44 PM »
Quote from: Monstro Doesn't Believe in a Blue Texas & a Blue Georgia on October 22, 2020, 08:38:59 PM
Quote from: Monstro Doesn't Believe in a Blue Texas & a Blue Georgia on October 22, 2020, 08:34:16 PM
Wow, Trump is a lot more polished and relaxed. He's killing it so far.



Will Horus, Buzz, Trump Virus, etc. be hackish enough to like this?




I only did it because you wanted me to Wink

As I keep saying, I want to be wrong. But the last election has scarred me and I won’t feel safe until this thing is over in January next year.
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2020, 08:47:38 PM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on October 22, 2020, 08:46:41 PM
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on October 22, 2020, 08:45:27 PM
Trump's tone is vastly improved from the first debate (although that's admittedly a low bar), but he's nil on substance.

And as soon as I wrote that, Trump's self-control is fraying.


Say it again a few more times please.
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2020, 09:01:15 PM »


Yea, not for me though.  I don’t care about attention.  And I’ve said many times I want to be wrong.  But 2016.
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2020, 09:02:27 PM »
This debate started mostly civil and easy to watch.  It’s become more similar to the first debate now with Trump getting more unhinged.
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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2020, 09:06:00 PM »
Quote from: Rep Jessica on October 22, 2020, 09:04:47 PM
End human trafficking. Anyone that thinks this is ok is pure evil.


Literally no one thinks human trafficking is okay.
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2020, 09:12:18 PM »
Trump says he’s done more for black people than any other president...”possible exception” of Lincoln.

What.
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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2020, 09:18:47 PM »
The beginning of this debate was civil and it helped Trump.

It’s devolved into a repeat of the first debate because of Trump.
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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2020, 09:21:02 PM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on October 22, 2020, 09:19:58 PM
Quote from: tmthforu94 on October 22, 2020, 09:19:22 PM
Wait, Biden just called Trump "Abraham Lincoln"??

Mocking Trump for his comment about having done more for blacks than anyone since Lincoln.


Trump didn’t even say since Lincoln...he said he’d done more for black people than anyone else “possible exception” of Lincoln.
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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2020, 09:22:53 PM »
Annnd Biden just looked at his watch.
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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2020, 09:24:04 PM »
Quote from: Dereich on October 22, 2020, 09:23:28 PM
Gotta admit, I laughed at "You've gotta talk them into it Joe." That was a great line.


Yea that will play well.
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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2020, 09:25:58 PM »
My worry is that low information swing voters will view this as a draw.  Or maybe even a Trump win.
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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2020, 09:27:48 PM »
Quote from: Hammy on October 22, 2020, 09:26:38 PM
Quote from: The Trump Virus on October 22, 2020, 09:25:58 PM
My worry is that low information swing voters will view this as a draw.  Or maybe even a Trump win.

Doubtful after his racist comments.


Trump’s made racist comments his entire life and these idiots won’t leave him.
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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2020, 09:36:17 PM »
Asked what he’d say in his second inauguration address, Trump goes off about what will happen if Biden wins.

Ummm what?
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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2020, 09:48:51 PM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on October 22, 2020, 09:44:18 PM
Overall, I don't see this changing many voters' minds.


I think I agree, but I do believe it solidifies whatever soft Trump support there is left.
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« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2020, 07:51:29 AM »
Last night's debate was significantly more civil and watchable than the first one.  Well, for the most part.  Trump started to unravel again towards the middle and end of the debate, but overall it was far different from the first debate and there was - get this - actual policy discussion.

Having said that, it was still a pretty bad debate and a bad sign for America's future if we continue down this path.  In recent years, Donald Trump has set the bar so low that simply anything forming a somewhat coherent message that can be easily understood is now considered a good debate performance - even if that message is entirely false.  Donald Trump has made it so that truth is not important in matters of public discourse.

Biden didn't do any harm to his campaign, and Trump probably solidified whatever soft support is left for him.  Because of Trump's more calm demeanor, I do think he'll see more of a rise in the polls than Biden will...but by the same token, I doubt Biden will see any decline in his poll numbers.  The debate will be seen as basically a wash.
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