Who are the most forgettable presidential/vice presidential candidates?

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I was reading through some old results and saw that Barry Goldwater's VP candidate was a man named William E. Miller, who I realized I had never heard of or thought about before then.  I think presidential candidates who have a lot of attention on themselves will naturally have a second half of the ticket most people won't care about. For that reason, I think Tim Kaine will also end up being a pretty forgotten figure as far as presidential tickets are concerned.

For recent timeframe looking backward, you can probably add on Dan Quayle because he completely left politics after his presidential bid flustered. The only thing anyone will remember about John Edwards is the scandal with his cancer-stricken wife and fathering a baby, and likewise completely left politics. (Quayle lives in Arizona and is on a bunch of boards. Edwards has gone back to ambulance-chasing.)

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Admiral Stockdale, who was a deaf Korean War veteran who was on Perot’s ticket in 1992.

Vietnam, not Korea.

Stockdale will be remember for his debate performance and also (at least should be) remembered for Dennis Miller's excellent defense of him in the middle of his comedy act.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-RBYRpydXk&list=PLGzxQLLsdUu7qZuSYXcXZ6UHhU9TJiq_1&index=8

Now I know (Stockdale's name has) become a buzzword in this culture for doddering old man, but let's look at the record, folks. The guy was the first guy in and the last guy out of Vietnam, a war that many Americans, including our present President, did not want to dirty their hands with. The reason he had to turn his hearing aid on at that debate is because those F*#%ing animals knocked his eardrums out when he wouldn't spill his guts. He teaches philosophy at Stanford University, he's a brilliant, sensitive, courageous man. And yet he committed the one unpardonable sin in our culture: he was bad on television.

Watch the video because he also gets in digs at Quayle and Gore after that.

If going for a Perot veep for being forgettable, it should be Pat Choate, a Reform Party Perot loyalist in 1996.

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Jack Kemp 1996?

Ran for president in '88 and was a former American football player. But I think he'd probably qualify for future generations.

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Limiting it to 1932 through present, I'd say Wendell Wilkie for president (1940) and William Miller for vice president (1964).

Willkie stands out as the most formidable opponent FDR faced for re-election and him being the nominee as a businessman with no political pedigree was a big shift from the Republican orthodoxy (imagine Trump without the assholishness).

Want to argue Alf Landon, sure.

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As far as actual VP's go, relative to the overall success of the administration, maybe John Nance Garner, FDR's VP from 1933-1941? I have never heard him discussed outside this forum, frankly.

There's a generation of Democratic politicians from the 1930s that outside of Huey Long, none of them are known beyond detailed historians that FDR played them off all one another or made promises he didn't keep or intentionally sidelined them. Paul McNutt for example.