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« on: October 19, 2020, 11:13:18 AM »

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2020/Mitchell_Research_MI_10-18-20.pdf

Biden (D) - 51
Trump (R-inc) - 41
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2020, 11:13:38 AM »

Welp.
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2020, 11:15:29 AM »

Clinton 46-43-2-2 sample, not sure how much it matters
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2020, 11:15:42 AM »

For MIRS
October 18
900 likely voters
MoE: 3.27%

Jorgensen 3%
Hawkins 1%
Someone else 1%
Not sure 3%
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2020, 11:25:50 AM »

Michigan is not going to make the same mistake twice.
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2020, 11:27:49 AM »

Maybe going on a targeted rampage threatening the life of a decent, well-liked governor doesn't play well with voters, aside from Klan members and other right-wing terrorists.

It seems like Trump's approach of launching targeted campaigns against the most popular politicians in swing states (e.g., McCain in AZ) is finally catching up on him.
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2020, 11:28:38 AM »
« Edited: October 19, 2020, 11:36:17 AM by Crumpets »

Mitchell... Mitchell... Mitchell... Mitchell... Mitchell... and Biden up by 10.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2020, 11:29:55 AM »

This poll has Biden +14 with men and only +7 with women. That seems unlikely.
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2020, 11:42:58 AM »

Clinton 46-43-2-2 sample, not sure how much it matters
7 points Biden lead is still devastating for Trump. Lean D.
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2020, 11:43:39 AM »

That's just a horrible poll for Trump on every level. Biden is leading among whites and the sample is less than 10% black. Biden is with a wide lead among independents and Democrats and Republicans are both at 39% in party ID. Yes, +3% Clinton sample, but only 2% did not vote in 2016, which is absurdly low and of course Biden is winning them. The only bright spot for Trump is that the sample is 48% college educated, which is way too high, but Biden is leading in all education categories anyway.  
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2020, 11:46:34 AM »

This poll has Biden +14 with men and only +7 with women. That seems unlikely.
more like impossible.
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2020, 11:47:30 AM »

Clinton 46-43-2-2 sample, not sure how much it matters

MI voted R in 2016, due to fact Scalia seat was on the line and Garland would have taken gun ownership away. This time, the Ginsburg seat is in the line and Gun owners aren't worried about that as of now with Biden as Prez. But, pressure is gonna continue to build on Biden loosing his hard line position on fracking. By 2036, we are gonna have to give up our dependence on fossil fuels due to global warming
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2020, 11:48:02 AM »
« Edited: October 19, 2020, 12:10:01 PM by Eraserhead »

Clinton 46-43-2-2 sample, not sure how much it matters

It doesn't.
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2020, 12:00:39 PM »

This is an R internal? Seriously? The best poll they could conjure up in Michigan is Biden +10?
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2020, 12:01:34 PM »

This is an R internal? Seriously? The best poll they could conjure up in Michigan is Biden +10?

I guess it could be gevalt, if you're familiar with that term. Same with the Biden campaign claiming that it's muh horse race nationally.
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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2020, 02:04:30 PM »



Fill ‘er up.
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2020, 02:11:53 PM »

Michigan is not +10 Biden. Let's be real here. Biden is def at 50-52% but Trump is not as far behind here as people think. Biden will still win it.
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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2020, 02:12:31 PM »

Looks like Michigan is returning to 2012 levels. You love to see it.
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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2020, 02:12:37 PM »

This is an R internal? Seriously? The best poll they could conjure up in Michigan is Biden +10?

I guess it could be gevalt, if you're familiar with that term. Same with the Biden campaign claiming that it's muh horse race nationally.

If you want to panic your supporters, you say "I'm down by 2." If you want your supporters to become demoralized and stay home, you say "I, the goddamned incumbent, am down 10 in a state I won last time."
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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2020, 04:08:25 PM »

What's the evidence that this is an R affiliated poll? The news service that commissioned it appears to be non-partisan to me.
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2020, 04:10:38 PM »

Also the poll is 48% college grad and I don't see any indication that it was weighed by education, might be junk!
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2020, 05:04:14 PM »

This is an R internal? Seriously? The best poll they could conjure up in Michigan is Biden +10?

I guess it could be gevalt, if you're familiar with that term. Same with the Biden campaign claiming that it's muh horse race nationally.

More like half of this board is claiming "horse race nationally".


The tightening is gonna happen! Any day now! Just you wait!!!
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2020, 05:42:49 PM »
« Edited: October 19, 2020, 06:01:18 PM by Ljube »

Mitchell is a very bad pollster. Back in 2012 he was asking us on the forum what we think of his methodology. Needless to say, our opinion wasn't very good.

On October 18, 2016 Mitchell had the following result:

Clinton: 51
Trump: 38
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2020, 06:28:05 PM »

Maybe going on a targeted rampage threatening the life of a decent, well-liked governor doesn't play well with voters, aside from Klan members and other right-wing terrorists.

It seems like Trump's approach of launching targeted campaigns against the most popular politicians in swing states (e.g., McCain in AZ) is finally catching up on him.

That's probably all incidental. I'm sure it isn't helping Trump's case in the state though.

Really when it comes down to it this state was a fluke along with its neighbor, Wisconsin, and basically the election as a whole, possibly.

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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2020, 06:29:21 PM »

Maybe going on a targeted rampage threatening the life of a decent, well-liked governor doesn't play well with voters, aside from Klan members and other right-wing terrorists.

It seems like Trump's approach of launching targeted campaigns against the most popular politicians in swing states (e.g., McCain in AZ) is finally catching up on him.

That's probably all incidental. I'm sure it isn't helping Trump's case in the state though.

Really when it comes down to it this state was a fluke along with its neighbor, Wisconsin, and basically the election as a whole, possibly.



Not a fluke.

This poll is off (if Bidens winning Michigan by 10 he's up by 15 nationally at least).

But Biden will still win here.
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