Opinion of people who describe civil rights issues as “culture war issues”?
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« on: October 18, 2020, 12:34:57 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2020, 01:37:46 PM »

I agree, Otto von Bismarck was an HP.
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2020, 02:19:49 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2020, 07:40:52 PM »


People who call things like LGBT rights "culture war issues" - as if they're just dinner table arguments instead of civil rights issues.
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2020, 08:01:20 PM »

This is a really weird way for you to come out against a national mask mandate, but I applaud your boldness.
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You get high off of complaining about basic safety measures.
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2020, 08:44:05 PM »

Uhm...tomato tomato, I guess?
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2020, 04:03:24 AM »


People who call things like LGBT rights "culture war issues" - as if they're just dinner table arguments instead of civil rights issues.

Calling something a "culture war" pretty much implies that it is much bigger than a garden-variety dinner table argument, but I guess that the expression has been used so much in the American discourse that its meaning has been trivialized.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2020, 09:28:21 AM »

The same issue can be a civil rights issue if it's engaged with seriously by people who actually care about those it affects and a culture war issue if it's engaged with unseriously by hatred-blinded idiots who just want to own the libs or own the deplorables.
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2020, 12:24:13 PM »

The same issue can be a civil rights issue if it's engaged with seriously by people who actually care about those it affects and a culture war issue if it's engaged with unseriously by hatred-blinded idiots who just want to own the libs or own the deplorables.

But "civil rights" is just term du jour for idiot libs who want to own the deplorables to couch their arguments in sanctimonious appeals to some normative quality.

Both of these phrases are absolutely meaningless.  It has nothing to do with how "serious" those using them are. 
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2020, 07:51:56 AM »

The same issue can be a civil rights issue if it's engaged with seriously by people who actually care about those it affects and a culture war issue if it's engaged with unseriously by hatred-blinded idiots who just want to own the libs or own the deplorables.

But "civil rights" is just term du jour for idiot libs who want to own the deplorables to couch their arguments in sanctimonious appeals to some normative quality.

Both of these phrases are absolutely meaningless.  It has nothing to do with how "serious" those using them are. 

I'm tempted to make a snide remark about a R-MS avatar saying that "civil rights" is a meaningless phrase, but I can't quite put my finger on one that wouldn't just be a pat insult, so instead I'll take this conversation seriously and say that just because the phrase "civil rights issue" is overused doesn't mean that, say, employment nondiscrimination and police brutality aren't actually civil rights issues. They clearly are. If you're referring to post-Obergefell small-ball LGBT issues like the Bathroom Question and the Wedding Cake Question, or to the claim that (say) positive economic rights to things like publicly provided food and housing are "civil rights issues", then sure, you have a point.
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