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Question: Which of the following would you consider to be murder?
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Abortion
 
#2
Assisted suicide
 
#3
Killing in self-defense
 
#4
Capital punishment
 
#5
Involuntary euthanasia
 
#6
None of the above
 
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« on: September 28, 2020, 02:13:03 PM »

Inspired by this thread: https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=399442.0 but upping the ante because I'm a masochist.
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2020, 06:27:08 PM »

Capital punishment and involuntary euthanasia 
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2020, 11:32:52 PM »

All of the above.
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2020, 03:22:53 PM »

All are murder.
The question is whether the murder was justified or not.
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2020, 03:37:06 PM »

Capital punishment and involuntary euthanasia 
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2020, 08:29:39 PM »

Capital punishment and involuntary euthanasia 
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2020, 04:57:58 PM »

Capital punishment and involuntary euthanasia.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2020, 12:30:35 AM »

Involuntary euthanasia under all circumstances. Capital punishment only when administered without a fair trial or adequate legal representation.
Capital punishment is almost solely used against murderers who committed the great crime of being poor, and, in at least 2-3% of the time, were not even murderers.
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2020, 10:39:05 AM »

Abortion and involuntary euthanasia for sure.  Definitely not the death penalty or killing in self-defense.  Undecided on assisted suicide.


How is it murder to kill in self-defense?  This makes zero sense.
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2020, 01:56:06 PM »

Also, a longer response is in order on a point that has been bothering me since I saw that response: Murderers have not "committed the crime of being poor." They have committed murder.

Well over 90% of people in the poorest decile of American households will never murder anyone. Murder rates in the poorest counties in the US vary by multiple orders of magnitude, and many of them have no more homicides than much wealthier counties with similar populations.

Poverty neither explains murder nor renders those who commit it any less accountable for their heinous actions, and most people I know who have experienced poverty find suggestions to that effect both harmful and extremely insulting.
I don’t dispute that the vast majority(>90%) of people on death row are murderers. However, the reason they are on death row is almost always because they couldn’t afford a good lawyer. I am not saying they shouldn’t be punished at all; I am saying that the death penalty is nearly always used on murderers who are poor. You obviously sincerely believe in an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth, and a life for a life. I find it hard to accept that people ought to be put to death by my government in my name, and I find it very unlikely that many pro-death penalty people would themselves administer the death penalty. To me, that’s hypocritical - if you support something being done, and you are able to, you should be willing to carry it out yourself.
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2020, 08:45:46 PM »

Involuntary euthanasia and some assisted suicides which are, philosophically speaking, simply involuntary euthanasia.
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2020, 02:07:52 PM »

Abortion, assisted suicide, involuntary euthanasia
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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2020, 02:40:05 PM »

Only involuntary euthanasia (although, like Robowop said, some assisted suicides could fall under this category as well)
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2020, 05:08:04 PM »

Abortion, assisted suicide, capital punishment, involuntary euthanasia
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2020, 10:52:30 PM »

Write-in: not wearing a mask
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