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tmthforu94
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« on: October 14, 2020, 06:19:41 PM »
« edited: October 18, 2020, 06:20:40 PM by tmthforu94 »

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AN ACT
To support federal officers in enforcing our laws

Section 1: Naming and Definitions.

I. The name of this act shall be: "Enforcing Our Laws"
II. "Sanctuary cities" is defined as a city whose municipal laws tend to protect undocumented immigrants from deportation or prosecution, despite federal immigration law.

Section 2: End Sanctuary Cities

I. Cities are not allowed to declare themselves as "Sanctuary Cities". They must comply with federal immigration enforcement. Cities that do not follow this rule will be stripped of all regional funding.

Section 3: Religious Protection

I. Southern law enforcement will not carry out immigration arrests on property owned by religious groups.

Section 4: Immigration Statement

I. The southern chamber declares, "The south welcomes all immigrants who come to the south legally. Legal immigrants enrich our culture with their diverse perspectives and backgrounds".

Sponsor: DTC

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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2020, 06:22:37 PM »

Immigrants are a fantastic boon to our region when they go through the legal process. But our laws are important and they will be followed. We cannot incentivize rule breaking. Atlasia gives many social and economic benefits to people in need, as it should. And we cannot sustain our welfare and social program system if we allow people to break our laws and come into the country illegally. They must go through the system like everyone else to create an orderly and productive society.

This bill ensures that federal law enforcement can enforce the laws of our country while protecting religious freedom.  
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2020, 07:18:22 PM »

I think that instead of tightening the punishments, we should make the legal immigration process easier so that those who wish to live in Atlasia, whether for personal pleasure or escape from tyranny, shall be able to do so easier without breaking our laws. Therefore, I just don't think this bill is the best answer to the region's immigration question.
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2020, 12:06:38 PM »

I suppose this legislation.
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2020, 12:53:57 PM »

What happens if cities ignore this law and declare themselves a sanctuary city?
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2020, 03:02:43 PM »

What happens if cities ignore this law and declare themselves a sanctuary city?

Offering an amendment to provide clarification on this:

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AN ACT
To support federal officers in enforcing our laws

Section 1: Naming and Definitions.

I. The name of this act shall be: "Enforcing Our Laws"
II. "Sanctuary cities" is defined as a city whose municipal laws tend to protect undocumented immigrants from deportation or prosecution, despite federal immigration law.

Section 2: End Sanctuary Cities

I. Cities are not allowed to declare themselves as "Sanctuary Cities". They must comply with federal immigration enforcement. Cities that do not follow this rule will be stripped of all regional funding.

Section 3: Religious Protection

I. Southern law enforcement will not carry out immigration arrests on property owned by religious groups.

Section 4: Immigration Statement

I. The southern chamber declares, "The south welcomes all immigrants who come to the south legally. Legal immigrants enrich our culture with their diverse perspectives and backgrounds".


I think this is appropriate for cities that do not follow the law.

I think that instead of tightening the punishments, we should make the legal immigration process easier so that those who wish to live in Atlasia, whether for personal pleasure or escape from tyranny, shall be able to do so easier without breaking our laws. Therefore, I just don't think this bill is the best answer to the region's immigration question.

We are not tightening any punishments. We are just enforcing the laws of the land. People are not allowed to break the law just because they feel like it. If you want to make legal immigration easier, I believe that is a matter of federal law. We do not have open borders because it would completely obliterate our current welfare programs that are so important for poor Atlasians.
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2020, 05:57:37 PM »

24 hours for objections.
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2020, 06:20:30 PM »

Amendment is adopted, debate resumes.
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2020, 06:25:48 PM »

I think that instead of tightening the punishments, we should make the legal immigration process easier so that those who wish to live in Atlasia, whether for personal pleasure or escape from tyranny, shall be able to do so easier without breaking our laws. Therefore, I just don't think this bill is the best answer to the region's immigration question.

We are not tightening any punishments. We are just enforcing the laws of the land. People are not allowed to break the law just because they feel like it. If you want to make legal immigration easier, I believe that is a matter of federal law. We do not have open borders because it would completely obliterate our current welfare programs that are so important for poor Atlasians.

Can someone provide me with the current immigration laws? If they're looser in game than they are IRL, then I could maybe support this.
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2020, 12:13:30 AM »

I think that instead of tightening the punishments, we should make the legal immigration process easier so that those who wish to live in Atlasia, whether for personal pleasure or escape from tyranny, shall be able to do so easier without breaking our laws. Therefore, I just don't think this bill is the best answer to the region's immigration question.

We are not tightening any punishments. We are just enforcing the laws of the land. People are not allowed to break the law just because they feel like it. If you want to make legal immigration easier, I believe that is a matter of federal law. We do not have open borders because it would completely obliterate our current welfare programs that are so important for poor Atlasians.

Can someone provide me with the current immigration laws? If they're looser in game than they are IRL, then I could maybe support this.

My understanding is that the main immigration law for Atlasia is this passed in 2017:

https://talkelections.org/AFEWIKI/index.php?title=Come_Out_of_the_Shadows_Act
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