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« on: October 14, 2020, 12:07:55 PM »



We Purple heart undecideds
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2020, 12:08:39 PM »

Classic Siena with all the undecideds, but looking good for Biden.
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2020, 12:10:13 PM »

PUSH YOUR UNDECIDEDS
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2020, 12:10:46 PM »
« Edited: October 14, 2020, 12:14:03 PM by lean d if fink says trumpism »

Trump approval: 47/48 (-1)

Favorabilities:
Trump: 46/49 (-3)
Biden: 52/44 (+8)
Cunningham: 40/41 (-1)
Tillis: 43/44 (-1)
Harris: 47/44 (+3)
Pence: 47/45 (+2)

Who won VP debate: Harris 38-35 (independents: Pence 35-32)
Barrett support: 46/33 (+13)
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2020, 12:11:17 PM »

They really need to do a better job of pushing undecideds.  There's no way that 22% are actually undecided in the senate race 3 weeks out.
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2020, 12:11:32 PM »

Siena rapidly turning into junk, you hate to see it.
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2020, 12:12:00 PM »

Classic Siena with all the undecideds, but looking good for Biden.
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2020, 12:12:08 PM »

22% undecided in the senate race? This dumb son of a bitch needs to have his polling license revoked.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2020, 12:12:43 PM »

NYT polls have really infuriated me this cycle because they really aren't all that helpful.
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2020, 12:13:08 PM »

12% not planning for either candidate in a LV poll is pretty ridiculous. We're less than three weeks out, I truly do not believe that Trump is only at 42%.
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2020, 12:13:18 PM »

Nate needs to push the f-cking undecideds like every other pollster does. A poll with this many undecideds is basically worthless in October
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2020, 12:13:56 PM »

As everyone else is saying, the undecided number is ridiculous this close to the election, but the overall margin looks reasonable.
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2020, 12:14:57 PM »

As everyone else is saying, the undecided number is ridiculous this close to the election, but the overall margin looks reasonable.
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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2020, 12:16:35 PM »

Like some of their other polls, most of their undecideds are minority voters.
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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2020, 12:17:33 PM »

J U N K
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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2020, 12:19:01 PM »

Can you imagine their upcoming Alaska poll? 38 Trump 29 Biden
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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2020, 12:19:53 PM »

0% of Republicans however are undecided. All Democrats and Independents for the remaining undecideds.
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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2020, 12:20:02 PM »

A lot of undecideds, yet zero(!) undecided Republicans...
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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2020, 12:20:49 PM »

Enough with the undecideds. This election is in 20 days.
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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2020, 12:21:39 PM »

Like some of their other polls, most of their undecideds are minority voters.

Thatís incorrect. 5% of whites vs. 8% of blacks being undecided doesnít mean the majority of undecideds are nonwhite, since NC is a majority-white  state.
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« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2020, 12:21:40 PM »

Nate has decided to give his reasoning for not pushing undecideds:


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« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2020, 12:22:14 PM »

It's a pretty good sample for Trump. He is +6% in 2016, only 18% black.
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« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2020, 12:23:34 PM »

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/nc100920-crosstabs/3bf558d7ca17e9de/full.pdf
627 likely voters
MoE: 4.5%
Changes with September 11-16

Biden 46% (+1)
Trump 42% (-2)
Jorgensen 2% (n/c)
Hakins 1% (n/c)
Someone else 1% (+1)
Not voting for president 0% (n/c)
Don't know/refused 8% (n/c)
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« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2020, 12:24:03 PM »

Like some of their other polls, most of their undecideds are minority voters.

Thatís incorrect. 5% of whites vs. 8% of blacks being undecided doesnít mean the majority of undecideds are nonwhite, since NC is a majority-white  state.

Yeah, if you multiply it out, there are probably more than twice as many undecided whites as blacks. They're pretty much all independents.
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« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2020, 12:24:55 PM »

Nate has decided to give his reasoning for not pushing undecideds:




what the christ
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