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« on: October 13, 2020, 10:01:15 AM »

Trump 54%
Biden 39%

https://wvmetronews.com/2020/10/13/west-virginians-favor-trump-over-biden-for-president-latest-poll-shows/
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2020, 10:02:20 AM »

+15 is West Virginia is absolutely horrid for Trump.
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2020, 10:08:13 AM »

A. I don't believe it.

B. If it IS right Joe Biden ends up getting the best performance in WV since John Kerry, all the maroon avatars talking about how Dems need to drastically change policies to appeal to West Virginians will have egg on their faces as the answer will prove to be "run an elderly white man who isn't woke and loves fracking."
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2020, 10:14:09 AM »

October 1-6
450 likely voters
MoE: 4.6%

Jorgensen 4%
Hawkins (Green/Mountain) 1%
Not sure 3%
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2020, 10:15:33 AM »

While I don't necessarily buy this exact margin, I'm thoroughly convinced that Biden gets a bump in places simply because he's an older white male.  
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2020, 10:20:36 AM »

New Poll: West Virginia President by Research America on 2020-10-06

Summary: D: 39%, R: 54%, U: 3%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2020, 10:20:41 AM »

While I don't necessarily buy this exact margin, I'm thoroughly convinced that Biden gets a bump in places simply because he's an older white male. 

I agree. Obama being black and Hillary being the most hated woman in the world caused the bottom to fall out for national Democrats in certain areas. Uncle Scranton Joe will be the most palatable Democratic candidate in these places since John "Frankenstein" Kerry.
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2020, 10:26:53 AM »

Wow. This is a disastrous poll for Trump.
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2020, 10:30:57 AM »

A. I don't believe it.

B. If it IS right Joe Biden ends up getting the best performance in WV since John Kerry, all the maroon avatars talking about how Dems need to drastically change policies to appeal to West Virginians will have egg on their faces as the answer will prove to be "run an elderly white man who isn't woke and loves fracking."

I do believe it (maybe it’s a little D-friendly, but not insanely so) and I’ll love it because it will prove me right in thinking pretty much exactly that. Anyone who unironically thinks West Virginia stopped voting D because Dems weren’t socialist enough was always hilariously delusional and has probably never stepped foot in the state. Biden very well might do best for a Democrat since Kerry, and yes, the fact that he’s a white man who’s fairly moderate will be a big part of why.
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2020, 10:31:39 AM »

Yeah no.

Can Biden get a dead cat bounce in places like Appalachia and the Ozarks?  Sure.

By this margin?  No.
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2020, 10:35:45 AM »

JOP... I don’t believe WV will have such a big swing to Biden unless I see a bunch of other polls saying this
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2020, 10:37:44 AM »

Absolute nonsense.
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2020, 10:38:16 AM »

Yeah, there was weakness in Trump polls in MO and WVA but the ACB nomination is helping Trump is more Conservative states
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2020, 10:47:28 AM »

Like I said in the last WV thread. Even if this poll was off by 10 or even 20, it would still safely be a Dem trend.

I think people see 2016 and reflexively think that West Virginia will just continue to trend R in 2020, but I think people underestimate how unpalatable Clinton was in this area. Obama, for his faults, kept a lot of counties in Western Kentucky and West Virginia close, but Trump came along, and his populist rhetoric + Clinton's universal hatred, and made the bottom fall out from under the Democrats.

But now that an inoffensive white dude is on the ticket, a lot of these voters are probably more comfortable voting Biden, at least for one last cycle.

Sure it might only last a cycle, but i think there is a very real possibility of a D trend in West Virginia.
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2020, 10:58:30 AM »

I don't care about the margin in WV. I care about what this says about PA and OH.
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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2020, 11:08:33 AM »

Wait, this is the pollster that always overestimates statewide Dems by 10%, right?

*Even Trump +25 would be substantially worse than 2016 in WV.
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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2020, 12:03:13 PM »

So according to today’s polling, Trump is now winning WV by less than Biden is winning the nation.
You love to see it!
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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2020, 12:03:50 PM »

lol
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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2020, 02:33:56 PM »

These polls of completely uncompetitive states are beyond useless.
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« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2020, 02:41:53 PM »

YUGE pro-fracking boost for Scranton Joe! Drill baby, drill!
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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2020, 04:25:10 PM »

I dont think it'll be this close, but Trump def will do considerably worse in Appalachia in 2020 vs 2016.

Been saying this for a while, rural PA will at least marginally trend against Trump as well.

Should be interesting to see the margins in parts of Pennsylvania vs 2016....
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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2020, 04:26:50 PM »

These polls of completely uncompetitive states are beyond useless.


How so? If Biden is improving in a state like WV, thats good news for him in parts of OH and PA
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« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2020, 05:08:27 PM »

Don't really buy it, but even Trump+25 is awful news for him given he won it by 42 last time. And it might mean great things for Pennsylvania/Ohio.
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« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2020, 06:22:11 PM »

A. I don't believe it.

B. If it IS right Joe Biden ends up getting the best performance in WV since John Kerry, all the maroon avatars talking about how Dems need to drastically change policies to appeal to West Virginians will have egg on their faces as the answer will prove to be "run an elderly white man who isn't woke and loves fracking."

Saying that Biden “loves” fracking is a bit of an overstatement.
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« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2020, 06:37:56 PM »

Coal Country Joe!
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