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« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2020, 11:11:13 PM »

My guess is Kennedy, knowing she'd lose in 2022, retires after one term and runs for the open Governor's mansion in 2025.
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« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2020, 11:12:48 PM »
« Edited: October 05, 2020, 11:16:13 PM by White WOW Wississippian »

Damn, Kennedy has been really impressive so far.

Is it because she's a good candidate, or are people wary of Van Drew for the party switch... or perhaps both?

Could it be because Biden is leading by 5 points in the district?

I mean, Kennedy is outperforming him here.

Biden 50%, Kennedy 50%
Trump 45%, Van Drew 44%

What a dramatic difference.
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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2020, 12:02:14 AM »

Haha, TIL she actually is a member of the Kennedy family, albeit through marriage and not blood.

I guess this would mean that since the 1950s, Congress has had at least one member of the Kennedy family in either House save for a few years after JFK's election to the presidency? Which will only continue assuming she trounces Van Drew.
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« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2020, 01:06:36 AM »

Damn, Kennedy has been really impressive so far.

Is it because she's a good candidate, or are people wary of Van Drew for the party switch... or perhaps both?

Could it be because Biden is leading by 5 points in the district?

I mean, Kennedy is outperforming him here.

Biden 50%, Kennedy 50%
Trump 45%, Van Drew 44%

What a dramatic difference.

I mean, Kennedy is outperforming him here.
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« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2020, 12:15:58 PM »

Van Drew really didn't think when he switched.  He'd be in a Lean/Likely D race if he didn't switch.

He'd have lost his primary.

No, he wouldn't have. New Jersey is dominated by machines who would have likely protected him. I wouldn't be surprised if Kennedy wins and then gets beaten by either Chris Brown or Mike Testa in 2022.

That's fair. Redistricting in 2022 is going to be tricky, but if Kennedy wins next month she'll start out as the most vulnerable incumbent in NJ.

My guess is that Malinowski will go into Biden's State Dept., and they will create a GOP district in the northwest part of the state, taking in conservative areas of NJ-7, NJ-11 and maybe NJ-5. Sherill will get the Union County parts of NJ-7 to make her more safe. Kim's district is kind of a wild card but he would also be very vulnerable in 2022 unless he gets a much more Democratic district, which I don't see happening cause of South Jersey geography

Makes sense, maybe give Sherill a lot of blue trending Somerset County and make NJ-11 Safe D.

Also a possibility. Though I think the Commission will have to include a lot of Democratic trending areas if they want to make a Lean/Likely R seat in Hunterdon/Warren/Sussex/Morris
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« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2020, 01:19:10 PM »

Haha, TIL she actually is a member of the Kennedy family, albeit through marriage and not blood.

I guess this would mean that since the 1950s, Congress has had at least one member of the Kennedy family in either House save for a few years after JFK's election to the presidency? Which will only continue assuming she trounces Van Drew.

Nope, no Kennedy between Jan 2011 and Jan 2013 (after Patrick Kennedy left office, before JKIII took office). If Amy does lose in November, Jan 2021 will be the second time since 1947.
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« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2020, 01:25:09 PM »

Haha, TIL she actually is a member of the Kennedy family, albeit through marriage and not blood.

I guess this would mean that since the 1950s, Congress has had at least one member of the Kennedy family in either House save for a few years after JFK's election to the presidency? Which will only continue assuming she trounces Van Drew.

Nope, no Kennedy between Jan 2011 and Jan 2013 (after Patrick Kennedy left office, before JKIII took office). If Amy does lose in November, Jan 2021 will be the second time since 1947.
It would however, be the first time no Kennedy is in office or elected to any office since 1946
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« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2020, 01:28:13 PM »

Haha, TIL she actually is a member of the Kennedy family, albeit through marriage and not blood.

I guess this would mean that since the 1950s, Congress has had at least one member of the Kennedy family in either House save for a few years after JFK's election to the presidency? Which will only continue assuming she trounces Van Drew.

Nope, no Kennedy between Jan 2011 and Jan 2013 (after Patrick Kennedy left office, before JKIII took office). If Amy does lose in November, Jan 2021 will be the second time since 1947.
It would however, be the first time no Kennedy is in office or elected to any office since 1946

Who was in office from Jan '11 - Jan '13?
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« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2020, 01:29:45 PM »

Haha, TIL she actually is a member of the Kennedy family, albeit through marriage and not blood.

I guess this would mean that since the 1950s, Congress has had at least one member of the Kennedy family in either House save for a few years after JFK's election to the presidency? Which will only continue assuming she trounces Van Drew.

Nope, no Kennedy between Jan 2011 and Jan 2013 (after Patrick Kennedy left office, before JKIII took office). If Amy does lose in November, Jan 2021 will be the second time since 1947.
It would however, be the first time no Kennedy is in office or elected to any office since 1946

Who was in office from Jan '11 - Jan '13?
Bobby Shriver
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« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2020, 03:39:25 PM »

LOVE this. LOVE.

Hopefully some day....

Senator Kennedy of Massachusetts
Senator Kennedy of New Jersey

And then maybe....
Representative Schlossberg from Connecticut
Senator Shriver from California
Representative Kennedy-Cuomo from New York.

The dream shall never die.
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« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2020, 04:38:38 PM »

LOVE this. LOVE.

Hopefully some day....

Senator Kennedy of Massachusetts
Senator Kennedy of New Jersey

And then maybe....
Representative Schlossberg from Connecticut
Senator Shriver from California
Representative Kennedy-Cuomo from New York.

The dream shall never die.

What no senate seat does to a man
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« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2020, 09:05:59 PM »

Haha, TIL she actually is a member of the Kennedy family, albeit through marriage and not blood.

I guess this would mean that since the 1950s, Congress has had at least one member of the Kennedy family in either House save for a few years after JFK's election to the presidency? Which will only continue assuming she trounces Van Drew.

Nope, no Kennedy between Jan 2011 and Jan 2013 (after Patrick Kennedy left office, before JKIII took office). If Amy does lose in November, Jan 2021 will be the second time since 1947.
It would however, be the first time no Kennedy is in office or elected to any office since 1946

Who was in office from Jan '11 - Jan '13?
Bobby Shriver

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« Reply #37 on: October 07, 2020, 09:55:37 AM »

LOVE this. LOVE.

Hopefully some day....

Senator Kennedy of Massachusetts
Senator Kennedy of New Jersey

And then maybe....
Representative Schlossberg from Connecticut
Senator Shriver from California
Representative Kennedy-Cuomo from New York.

The dream shall never die.

The next senator from NJ is going to be Mikie Sherill in 2024. Maybe earlier if Booker ends up in Biden's cabinet.

South Jersey Democrats are at a disadvantage in primaries because the center of gravity, so to speak, of the NJ Democratic electorate skews toward the central and northern parts of the state. Kennedy would have name recognition, for sure, but she'd have to make a lot of inroads with the north Jersey crowd to get anywhere.
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« Reply #38 on: October 07, 2020, 09:59:31 AM »
« Edited: October 07, 2020, 03:15:10 PM by Calthrina950 »

Haha, TIL she actually is a member of the Kennedy family, albeit through marriage and not blood.

I guess this would mean that since the 1950s, Congress has had at least one member of the Kennedy family in either House save for a few years after JFK's election to the presidency? Which will only continue assuming she trounces Van Drew.

Nope, no Kennedy between Jan 2011 and Jan 2013 (after Patrick Kennedy left office, before JKIII took office). If Amy does lose in November, Jan 2021 will be the second time since 1947.
It would however, be the first time no Kennedy is in office or elected to any office since 1946

Who was in office from Jan '11 - Jan '13?
Bobby Shriver

Reach

Not in my opinion. He is Eunice Kennedy-Shriver's son, and therefore a grandson of Joseph Kennedy Sr. Amy Kennedy, on the other hand, is a member of the family by marriage.
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« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2020, 12:53:17 PM »

Haha, TIL she actually is a member of the Kennedy family, albeit through marriage and not blood.

I guess this would mean that since the 1950s, Congress has had at least one member of the Kennedy family in either House save for a few years after JFK's election to the presidency? Which will only continue assuming she trounces Van Drew.

Nope, no Kennedy between Jan 2011 and Jan 2013 (after Patrick Kennedy left office, before JKIII took office). If Amy does lose in November, Jan 2021 will be the second time since 1947.
It would however, be the first time no Kennedy is in office or elected to any office since 1946

Who was in office from Jan '11 - Jan '13?
Bobby Shriver

Reach

Not in my opinion. He is Eunice Kennedy-Schriver's son, and therefore a grandson of Joseph Kennedy Sr. Amy Kennedy, on the other hand, is a member of the family by marriage.

Fair. I guess I meant the "in office" part was more of a reach than the "Kennedy" part. Santa Monica has 90k people and its City Council meets two days out of every month. For all we know there are lots of other random Kennedys out there in that capacity.
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« Reply #40 on: October 07, 2020, 03:14:49 PM »

Haha, TIL she actually is a member of the Kennedy family, albeit through marriage and not blood.

I guess this would mean that since the 1950s, Congress has had at least one member of the Kennedy family in either House save for a few years after JFK's election to the presidency? Which will only continue assuming she trounces Van Drew.

Nope, no Kennedy between Jan 2011 and Jan 2013 (after Patrick Kennedy left office, before JKIII took office). If Amy does lose in November, Jan 2021 will be the second time since 1947.
It would however, be the first time no Kennedy is in office or elected to any office since 1946

Who was in office from Jan '11 - Jan '13?
Bobby Shriver

Reach

Not in my opinion. He is Eunice Kennedy-Shriver's son, and therefore a grandson of Joseph Kennedy Sr. Amy Kennedy, on the other hand, is a member of the family by marriage.

Fair. I guess I meant the "in office" part was more of a reach than the "Kennedy" part. Santa Monica has 90k people and its City Council meets two days out of every month. For all we know there are lots of other random Kennedys out there in that capacity.

You're right, and there was a brief period of time, between December 2012 and January 2013 (it's uncertain exactly how long), from when Bobby Shriver left office to the time that Joseph Kennedy III was sworn into the House. It's safe to assume that there were no Kennedys in political office during that brief period.
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« Reply #41 on: October 07, 2020, 03:22:31 PM »

Haha, TIL she actually is a member of the Kennedy family, albeit through marriage and not blood.

I guess this would mean that since the 1950s, Congress has had at least one member of the Kennedy family in either House save for a few years after JFK's election to the presidency? Which will only continue assuming she trounces Van Drew.

Nope, no Kennedy between Jan 2011 and Jan 2013 (after Patrick Kennedy left office, before JKIII took office). If Amy does lose in November, Jan 2021 will be the second time since 1947.
It would however, be the first time no Kennedy is in office or elected to any office since 1946

Who was in office from Jan '11 - Jan '13?
Bobby Shriver

Reach

Not in my opinion. He is Eunice Kennedy-Shriver's son, and therefore a grandson of Joseph Kennedy Sr. Amy Kennedy, on the other hand, is a member of the family by marriage.

Fair. I guess I meant the "in office" part was more of a reach than the "Kennedy" part. Santa Monica has 90k people and its City Council meets two days out of every month. For all we know there are lots of other random Kennedys out there in that capacity.

You're right, and there was a brief period of time, between December 2012 and January 2013 (it's uncertain exactly how long), from when Bobby Shriver left office to the time that Joseph Kennedy III was sworn into the House. It's safe to assume that there were no Kennedys in political office during that brief period.
That was why I said "or elected to any office." Joe was already representative-elect when Shriver left office.
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« Reply #42 on: October 07, 2020, 03:26:50 PM »

The next senator from NJ is going to be Mikie Sherill in 2024. Maybe earlier if Booker ends up in Biden's cabinet.

It'll be me. I'm gonna primary Menendez in 2030. /s
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« Reply #43 on: October 07, 2020, 03:28:58 PM »

Haha, TIL she actually is a member of the Kennedy family, albeit through marriage and not blood.

I guess this would mean that since the 1950s, Congress has had at least one member of the Kennedy family in either House save for a few years after JFK's election to the presidency? Which will only continue assuming she trounces Van Drew.

Nope, no Kennedy between Jan 2011 and Jan 2013 (after Patrick Kennedy left office, before JKIII took office). If Amy does lose in November, Jan 2021 will be the second time since 1947.
It would however, be the first time no Kennedy is in office or elected to any office since 1946

Who was in office from Jan '11 - Jan '13?
Bobby Shriver

Reach

Not in my opinion. He is Eunice Kennedy-Shriver's son, and therefore a grandson of Joseph Kennedy Sr. Amy Kennedy, on the other hand, is a member of the family by marriage.

Fair. I guess I meant the "in office" part was more of a reach than the "Kennedy" part. Santa Monica has 90k people and its City Council meets two days out of every month. For all we know there are lots of other random Kennedys out there in that capacity.

You're right, and there was a brief period of time, between December 2012 and January 2013 (it's uncertain exactly how long), from when Bobby Shriver left office to the time that Joseph Kennedy III was sworn into the House. It's safe to assume that there were no Kennedys in political office during that brief period.
That was why I said "or elected to any office." Joe was already representative-elect when Shriver left office.

I didn't catch that; I was responding to RecoveringDem's post. But you're correct about that as well.
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« Reply #44 on: October 07, 2020, 03:29:06 PM »

The next senator from NJ is going to be Mikie Sherill in 2024. Maybe earlier if Booker ends up in Biden's cabinet.

It'll be me. I'm gonna primary Menendez in 2030. /s

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« Reply #45 on: October 07, 2020, 04:14:44 PM »

LOVE this. LOVE.

Hopefully some day....

Senator Kennedy of Massachusetts
Senator Kennedy of New Jersey

And then maybe....
Representative Schlossberg from Connecticut
Senator Shriver from California
Representative Kennedy-Cuomo from New York.

The dream shall never die.

Ok Joe III
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« Reply #46 on: October 07, 2020, 06:27:24 PM »

The next senator from NJ is going to be Mikie Sherill in 2024. Maybe earlier if Booker ends up in Biden's cabinet.

It'll be me. I'm gonna primary Menendez in 2030. /s

If Menendez is unpopular as he is now you'll pull off an upset for sure
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« Reply #47 on: October 07, 2020, 06:31:17 PM »

The next senator from NJ is going to be Mikie Sherill in 2024. Maybe earlier if Booker ends up in Biden's cabinet.

It'll be me. I'm gonna primary Menendez in 2030. /s

If Menendez is unpopular as he is now you'll pull off an upset for sure

No matter what, I think Menendez will be forced out in 2024 just like Dodd and Bunning were in 2010.
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« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2020, 06:06:02 PM »

Malinowski may be Secy. of State or something, win or lose

Tom Kean would be his replacement

Kean could use that seat as a springboard to a veep position to moderate a Hawley or a Haley and bring back the Jennifer Rubins of the world.

But Rubin wants to destroy the GOP root from root.
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« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2020, 06:09:16 PM »

Malinowski may be Secy. of State or something, win or lose

Tom Kean would be his replacement

Kean could use that seat as a springboard to a veep position to moderate a Hawley or a Haley and bring back the Jennifer Rubins of the world.

But Rubin wants to destroy the GOP root from root.


Good! This party is unsalvageable and Haley or Hawley would do nothing to help it.
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