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Author Topic: NY Times/Siena: Biden +10 WI; +8 MI  (Read 1654 times)
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« on: October 12, 2020, 12:00:08 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2020, 12:00:43 PM »

A lot of undecideds in Michigan. Also, Peters is only up 43-42.
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2020, 12:00:51 PM »

Terrible numbers for the President, yet I find myself still optimistic.
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2020, 12:00:56 PM »

That WI margin is bonkers! Let's bring this home.
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2020, 12:01:30 PM »

Oh dear, Peters is just +1. Just saw.
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2020, 12:01:35 PM »

Dread it, run from it, President Biden arrives all the same.
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2020, 12:01:45 PM »

Are these the devastating polls we were waiting for?
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2020, 12:01:55 PM »

Does anyone have the pdf links
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2020, 12:02:54 PM »

Oh dear, Peters is just +1. Just saw.

Young people and independents have no idea who to vote for. Massive undecideds.
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2020, 12:03:12 PM »


https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/miwi1020-crosstabs/b0a09cd1cd0048df/full.pdf
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2020, 12:03:28 PM »

Are these the devastating polls we were waiting for?

No, he said that they were still in the field yesterday.
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2020, 12:04:05 PM »

Are these the devastating polls we were waiting for?


It'd make sense, right? Trump down double digits in Wisconsin is brutal for him.
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2020, 12:04:20 PM »

Looks increasingly absurd to say MI is definitely gonna vote to the left ot WI.
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2020, 12:04:48 PM »

Oh dear, Peters is just +1. Just saw.

Young people and independents have no idea who to vote for. Massive undecideds.

Also James is only doing 2% better in terms of vote share (42% vs 40%) than Trump. Most undecideds will break for Peters, itíll be closer than it should but heíll eek it out. Peters is really lucky this is such a Democratic year.
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2020, 12:05:13 PM »

Trump approval:
MI: 45/50 (-5)
WI: 44/53 (-9)
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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2020, 12:08:29 PM »

This is great but that MI Senate poll is horrifying
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2020, 12:09:43 PM »

interesting tidbit in the WI crosstabs. They only have 24% of voters planning on voting early by mail.

Right now, turnout compared to 2016 would suggest that 23% of voters have ALREADY VOTED BY MAIL as of Oct 12. So...
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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2020, 12:11:02 PM »

Consistent with a Biden +10 national environment, although WI being left of MI come election night itself is something I'll believe when I see. Very nice polls, unless you're Gary Peters.
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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2020, 12:11:14 PM »

The # of undecideds is still too high for Michigan. Why NYT/Siena refuses to push these people is beyond me.
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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2020, 12:12:02 PM »

Dread it, run from it, President Biden arrives all the same.

"I am...inevitable." - President Joe Biden
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2020, 12:12:15 PM »

Whoa... this poll has Biden WINNING WOW by 3!
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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2020, 12:14:11 PM »


if anything, this Michigan poll looks a little R-leaning. Which is just disastrous even more for Trump.
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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2020, 12:14:32 PM »
« Edited: October 12, 2020, 12:18:12 PM by TiltsAreUnderrated »

MI
October 6-11
614 likely voters
MoE: 4.6%

Biden 48%
Trump 40%
Hawkins 1%
Jorgensen 1%
Someone else 1%
Not voting for President 0%
Don't know/Refused 8%

WI
October 8-11
789 likely voters
MoE: 4%
Changes with September 8-10 poll

Biden 51% (+3)
Trump 41% (-2)
Jorgensen 3% (+1)
Someone else 0% (-1)
Not voting for President 0% (-1)
Don't know/Refused 5% (-1)

Hawkins previously at 0%
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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2020, 12:14:44 PM »

This is interesting in regards to the Senate numbers, which makes me happier. I they pushed the undecideds in that race Peters would probably have a better lead. Still concerning.
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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2020, 12:15:35 PM »

Whoa... this poll has Biden WINNING WOW by 3!

Where did you see that
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