COVID-19 Megathread 6: Return of the Omicron

[walleye26]

I’m frustrated because I got vaxxed + my employer still requires masks, and I ended up testing positive Thursday night. Grrrr. I feel like crap but at least I have football

I've said before that it seems like everyone is going to contract this virus at some point.

Yeah, and it looks like Omnicron is making a LOT of breakthroughs.

[GeneralMacArthur]

C) You should only do a PCR test if you have tested positive on the antigen test (they are super expensive anyways so why would you test?)

Because I have a life and want to spend the next two weeks living it instead of hiding inside waiting to find out whether or not I have COVID.  But I also don't want to spread COVID to dozens of other people, especially people I care about, if I do have it.

Dude that ain't cool.  There's literally people that need to get those tests to come back negative in order to get back to work.

I have no idea what you're trying to say here, are you implying I shouldn't get tested even after spending significant time with someone who was infected with COVID, because someone else might need the test more than me?

Correct. It's selfish to hog tests if you're low risk.

Tell that to my loved ones who don't want to get COVID from me.

Your loved ones are going to get omicron from someone no matter what.

You can't dodge it.

Bruh this some real sociopath s--t

[Horus]

C) You should only do a PCR test if you have tested positive on the antigen test (they are super expensive anyways so why would you test?)

Because I have a life and want to spend the next two weeks living it instead of hiding inside waiting to find out whether or not I have COVID.  But I also don't want to spread COVID to dozens of other people, especially people I care about, if I do have it.

Dude that ain't cool.  There's literally people that need to get those tests to come back negative in order to get back to work.

I have no idea what you're trying to say here, are you implying I shouldn't get tested even after spending significant time with someone who was infected with COVID, because someone else might need the test more than me?

Correct. It's selfish to hog tests if you're low risk.

Tell that to my loved ones who don't want to get COVID from me.

Your loved ones are going to get omicron from someone no matter what.

You can't dodge it.

Bruh this some real sociopath s--t

I don't think you understand how transmissible omicron is.

Fortunately it's also very mild.

[Raccoon]

Trish Gunby in MO HD 99, near southwestern St. Louis County, was able to win in Nov 2020 because she was actually going out and canvassing and speaking to voters.

She wasn't hiding behind her zoom app in her bed room with a double mask and biohazard suit like most white suburban Democrats did and end up wondering why they lost their races.

[Don't blame me I voted for Harris]

Trish Gunby in MO HD 99, near southwestern St. Louis County, was able to win in Nov 2020 because she was actually going out and canvassing and speaking to voters.

She wasn't hiding behind her zoom app in her bed room with a double mask and biohazard suit like most white suburban Democrats did and end up wondering why they lost their races.

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[GeorgiaModerate]

This is what you call an effective incentive:

https://twitter.com/NYDailyNews/status/1479993112634265600

[Mr. Morden]

WA had one new COVID case with community transmission. 7 in hotel quarantine from interstate.

Population statistics for vaccination.

1st jab : 93.5%
2nd jab : 85.7%
Booster : 12.2%

WA had like 16 thousand news cases.  Are politicians trying to blame interstate travelers again.  Yeah.  Stop doing that S$$$. 

WA - Western Australia not Washington State.

16,000 is next level.

I guess the question is: Why are you posting WA numbers in the US covid thread rather than the international one?

[Bandit3 the Worker]

So what are the off-ramps now to end restrictions?

Now that the vaccine has been approved for kids as young as 5 for the past 2 months, you never hear anything anymore about ending restrictions.

[Migrant Crime]

So what are the off-ramps now to end restrictions?

Now that the vaccine has been approved for kids as young as 5 for the past 2 months, you never hear anything anymore about ending restrictions.

When Republicans are elected in 2022.  There is no off ramp otherwise.

[Hollywood]

So what are the off-ramps now to end restrictions?

Now that the vaccine has been approved for kids as young as 5 for the past 2 months, you never hear anything anymore about ending restrictions.

I don't know what the F you're talking about.  The serious risks are over for anyone under the age 55.  My nephews have had Covid-19 like two times already, and was running around like a maniac.  Stop watching politics and read the studies.  Some of these foreign Science Nerds actually mocking the US and Europe for unnecessarily testing for Covid-19 when isn't even killing anyone that isn't suffering from cancer or other terminal illness.  We're getting fleeced by these pharmaceutical companies.

I'm no longer wearing a mask or abstaining froms ocial gatherings until a dangerous strain comes along.  Vaccinate a young child with the MRNA 2-3 times a year?  Absolutely not.  I have no trust our Medical Officials, and believe the Japanese, South African, India, and South Korean Directors and Uncensored Research cause they never lied to me. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8437699/

If teachers try to make this mandatory, even the vaccinated are going to flip out, because there is absolutely no reason based on the efficacy difference from the placebo, and the possible side-effects of multiple MRNA vaccinations over a long-term.  Most of us are done until further notice. 

[GoTfan]

The last few pages are seemingly an exercise in collective sociopathy and lack of any coherent idea part from rubbishing anyone who says that restrictions are still necessary, even if the evidence backs them up.

[Horus]

The last few pages are seemingly an exercise in collective sociopathy and lack of any coherent idea part from rubbishing anyone who says that restrictions are still necessary, even if the evidence backs them up.

So I see we've reached the point where the zero COVID crowd just calls anyone who understands transmissibility and basic science a sociopath.

[Hollywood]

The last few pages are seemingly an exercise in collective sociopathy and lack of any coherent idea part from rubbishing anyone who says that restrictions are still necessary, even if the evidence backs them up.

So I see we've reached the point where the zero COVID crowd just calls anyone who understands transmissibility and basic science a sociopath.

Dude... I've posted scientific studies, and get nothing back from you guys except for talking points. 

It's all moot at this point.  The Debate has turned against the Democrat policies at the moment. 

And I understand Transmissibility being an EMT.  Body Safety is Chapter 2.

[Horus]

The last few pages are seemingly an exercise in collective sociopathy and lack of any coherent idea part from rubbishing anyone who says that restrictions are still necessary, even if the evidence backs them up.

So I see we've reached the point where the zero COVID crowd just calls anyone who understands transmissibility and basic science a sociopath.

Dude... I've posted scientific studies, and get nothing back from you guys except for talking points. 

It's all moot at this point.  The Debate has turned against the Democrat policies at the moment. 

And I understand Transmissibility being an EMT.  Body Safety is Chapter 2.

This... wasn't at all in reference to you? But okay

[compucomp]

The last few pages are seemingly an exercise in collective sociopathy and lack of any coherent idea part from rubbishing anyone who says that restrictions are still necessary, even if the evidence backs them up.

Exactly! This forum has seriously lost its mind on the subject of COVID. They claim to be "pro-freedom", but they've already won that battle in the US; there are no government policies causing any business shutdown or restricting any behavior. But it's not enough for this forum, as they are actually the authoritarian ones. They want a coerced return to the normal of 2019, regardless of what COVID is doing and the threat it poses. They want to deny us the freedom to take COVID seriously and change our behavior to protect ourselves. In their world, masks and hand sanitizer would be controlled substances, COVID would be a censored word, all testing would stop, and WFH and takeout/delivery services would be banned.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Exactly! This forum has seriously lost its mind on the subject of COVID. They claim to be "pro-freedom", but they've already won that battle in the US; there are no government policies causing any business shutdown or restricting any behavior.

There's mask mandates all over the place now.

[Hollywood]

Jimmy Dore completely dismembers Slate article where author fabricates government policies more with debunked Fascist Democrat talking points, but the title analyzes the Vaccine Mandate case before the Supreme Court.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REJa6wc-Jfk

Democrats do not get the news, because they don't want the news.  If all you've read is Democrat smut that continues to disseminated Covid Misinformation, you have no business telling people how to conduct themselves.

[compucomp]

Exactly! This forum has seriously lost its mind on the subject of COVID. They claim to be "pro-freedom", but they've already won that battle in the US; there are no government policies causing any business shutdown or restricting any behavior.

There's mask mandates all over the place now.

For the thousandth time, mask mandates don't prevent anyone from doing anything. Exceptions are always carved out for food/drink serving establishments.

[Hollywood]

Exactly! This forum has seriously lost its mind on the subject of COVID. They claim to be "pro-freedom", but they've already won that battle in the US; there are no government policies causing any business shutdown or restricting any behavior.

There's mask mandates all over the place now.

For the thousandth time, mask mandates don't prevent anyone from doing anything. Exceptions are always carved out for food/drink serving establishments.

They obstruct people from breathing, and they tell toddlers not to wear them.  At least they did when I was an EMT.  

They can cause headaches from a build up of carbon dioxide, particularly the N95

They fog my glasses which impairs my vision and ability to work, and they can mess with the site of people that don't wear glasses.  

They cause psychological issues for children.

Seriously, how uninformed are you guys that still don't that masks have side effects.  This has been settled science for decades.  And the new studies on kids are particularly distressing.  

Don't get F-ing mad us cause you don't read anything of scientific substance. 

[Hammy]

So what are the off-ramps now to end restrictions?

Now that the vaccine has been approved for kids as young as 5 for the past 2 months, you never hear anything anymore about ending restrictions.

I don't know what the F you're talking about.  The serious risks are over for anyone under the age 55.  My nephews have had Covid-19 like two times already, and was running around like a maniac.  Stop watching politics and read the studies.  Some of these foreign Science Nerds actually mocking the US and Europe for unnecessarily testing for Covid-19 when isn't even killing anyone that isn't suffering from cancer or other terminal illness.  We're getting fleeced by these pharmaceutical companies.

I'm no longer wearing a mask or abstaining froms ocial gatherings until a dangerous strain comes along.  Vaccinate a young child with the MRNA 2-3 times a year?  Absolutely not.  I have no trust our Medical Officials, and believe the Japanese, South African, India, and South Korean Directors and Uncensored Research cause they never lied to me. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8437699/

If teachers try to make this mandatory, even the vaccinated are going to flip out, because there is absolutely no reason based on the efficacy difference from the placebo, and the possible side-effects of multiple MRNA vaccinations over a long-term.  Most of us are done until further notice. 

Any black and white study that's looking solely at deaths and cases is going to be flawed, because those aren't the only things to keep in mind--and the wording of the study made it abundantly clear that it was done with intent of reaching a predetermined outcome to feed an existing narrative.

Human beings are being affected, and this study treats them merely as numbers that don't matter if they don't fall into a binary category of either "infected/uninfected" or "lived/died." This isn't something you can apply financial-brain logic to.

The vaccine has been successful in stopping severe disease and hospitalization. I suppose you forget that children do eventually grow up, and children infected with covid have weaker immune systems and health complications. There's been a drastic rise in Type 1 and 2 diabetes among children who have recovered for instance. Another matter is, as the virus intensity is weakened through widespread vaccination, breakthrough infections (which are increasingly mild) will continue to train the immune system so that it can evolve with the virus.

Deciding children shouldn't be vaccinated is basically telling them they are not worth having a full life, because by the time they get to their 20s, 30s, and 40s they'll have medical conditions and be much higher risk than the rest of the population by that age, because some ill-informed nutjobs who had the sole say in the matter decided the here and now was all that mattered.

[compucomp]

Exactly! This forum has seriously lost its mind on the subject of COVID. They claim to be "pro-freedom", but they've already won that battle in the US; there are no government policies causing any business shutdown or restricting any behavior.

There's mask mandates all over the place now.

For the thousandth time, mask mandates don't prevent anyone from doing anything. Exceptions are always carved out for food/drink serving establishments.

I am so whiny and entitled I can't tolerate minor inconveniences to contain a deadly pandemic.

Fixed it for you.

[Hollywood]

Exactly! This forum has seriously lost its mind on the subject of COVID. They claim to be "pro-freedom", but they've already won that battle in the US; there are no government policies causing any business shutdown or restricting any behavior.

There's mask mandates all over the place now.

For the thousandth time, mask mandates don't prevent anyone from doing anything. Exceptions are always carved out for food/drink serving establishments.

I am so whiny and entitled I can't tolerate minor inconveniences to contain a deadly pandemic.

Fixed it for you.

Wearing mask for two years is not a minor inconvenience.  That's a huge life change for someone that wears a mask for 8 hours a day.

I'm listening to the Democrat arguing with Justice Alito, because she won't answer any questions.  Alito asks him to repeat the question and she says something completely different.  Then he gets her to admit that the vaccines have side effects, because she can't lie in court.   

[Roll Roons]

Exactly! This forum has seriously lost its mind on the subject of COVID. They claim to be "pro-freedom", but they've already won that battle in the US; there are no government policies causing any business shutdown or restricting any behavior.

There's mask mandates all over the place now.

For the thousandth time, mask mandates don't prevent anyone from doing anything. Exceptions are always carved out for food/drink serving establishments.

I am so whiny and entitled I can't tolerate minor inconveniences to contain a deadly pandemic.

Fixed it for you.

IT'S NOT DEADLY OR DANGEROUS IF YOU'RE VACCINATED. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL ALREADY!

[Zohranism is OUR future]

Still have not heard a rational argument against using hospital capacity as the primary metric in determining whether we need restrictions or not in certain areas.

Biggest problem these days though may not even be capacity, it could be just that so many staff are infected that they can’t go in (and having infected healthcare workers treat already at risk patients is…not really an option for obvious reasons lol)

[Can't Bear]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1480212120595742723
Early Data Hints at Omicron’s Potential Toll Across America

The extremely transmissible Omicron variant is spreading quickly across the United States, making up a vast majority of U.S. cases after becoming dominant in the week before Christmas.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have said that it is still too soon to predict the full impact Omicron could have on deaths and illness across the country. But data in some of the earliest-hit cities is beginning to show what the future could hold.

In Chicago there are already more people on ventilation than during the last winter.

Since vaccines became available, those who are vaccinated have been far less likely to be hospitalized with severe Covid-19 than those who are unvaccinated. Early data from New York City shows that the vaccination gap in hospitalizations became even wider during the first weeks of the city’s Omicron surge.

Vaccinated patients are more likely to experience milder disease, doctors have said, and a vast majority of Omicron patients who require intensive care are unvaccinated or have severely compromised immune systems.

Omicron is already more severe in US (cities) than it was UK/SA. A lot of "mildness" is explained by immunity, either "natural" like in SA (90%) or vaccinated/boosted/both like in UK.

And NY is relatively well-vaxxed and has high natural immunity compared to the average of US.