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« Reply #4600 on: June 24, 2021, 04:22:25 PM »

I had a co-worker at my job today tell me they might start wearing a mask again because they are concerned about the Delta variant. People seem to be truly terrified over this.
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« Reply #4601 on: June 24, 2021, 04:45:16 PM »

One of the many reasons to be skeptical of Feigl-Ding's "reporting":


In November of last year he was (and probably still is!) pushing a lie that COVID-19 can transmit through farts, and that we'd need N95 underwear.

He does not know what he's talking about. Stop listening to him.

I you don't use triple underwear masking, BRTD will assume, you're Trump supporter.
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« Reply #4602 on: June 24, 2021, 05:20:32 PM »

I had a co-worker at my job today tell me they might start wearing a mask again because they are concerned about the Delta variant. People seem to be truly terrified over this.

Mask fearmongering has already cost Biden (and Americans) a bit, both economically - it's not a coincidence that CDC:s flip-flop on masks came after disastrous job numbers - and vaccination wise - people didn't have enough incentive to vaccinate themselves.

Let's hope, this time they will follow the science and use it as an incentive for people to vaccinate  themselves, not "force" vaccinated people to mask themselves/stay home out the work/school out of fear because of an idiotic fearmongering a la forumlurker.
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« Reply #4603 on: June 24, 2021, 06:07:41 PM »

I had a co-worker at my job today tell me they might start wearing a mask again because they are concerned about the Delta variant. People seem to be truly terrified over this.

Mask fearmongering has already cost Biden (and Americans) a bit, both economically - it's not a coincidence that CDC:s flip-flop on masks came after disastrous job numbers - and vaccination wise - people didn't have enough incentive to vaccinate themselves.

Let's hope, this time they will follow the science and use it as an incentive for people to vaccinate  themselves, not "force" vaccinated people to mask themselves/stay home out the work/school out of fear because of an idiotic fearmongering a la forumlurker.
How do masks hurt the economy?
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« Reply #4604 on: June 24, 2021, 09:16:11 PM »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 6/24 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Comparing the numbers to the same day of last week, are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE:What's the overall change in the total?

Brackets []: These represent the total change for the day, including backlogged reports, if any.
  • These numbers are inflated relative to the actual reports for the day, so they are not used to calculate the comparative percentage shifts.

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6/13: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 34,321,093 (+5,226 | ΔW Change: ↓18.45% | Σ Increase: ↑0.02%)
  • Deaths: 615,053 (+16 | ΔW Change: ↓90.36% | Σ Increase: ↑0.00%)

6/14: <M>
  • Cases: 34,334,299 (+7,310 [+13,206] | ΔW Change: ↓40.49% | Σ Increase: ↑0.04%)
  • Deaths: 615,263 (+106 [+210] | ΔW Change: ↓68.36% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)

6/15: <T>
  • Cases: 34,351,363 (+11,884 [+17,064] | ΔW Change: ↓12.24% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)
  • Deaths: 615,703 (+341 [+440] | ΔW Change: ↓2.85% | Σ Increase: ↑0.07%)

6/16: <W>
  • Cases: 34,365,327 (+12,757 [+13,964] | ΔW Change: ↓10.17% | Σ Increase: ↑0.04%)
  • Deaths: 616,141 (+352 [+438] | ΔW Change: ↓20.36% | Σ Increase: ↑0.07%)

6/17: <Þ>
  • Cases: 34,376,793 (+11,466 | ΔW Change: ↑7.06% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)
  • Deaths: 616,423 (+282 | ΔW Change: ↓31.55% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)

6/18: <F>
  • Cases: 34,393,269 (+13,389 [+16,476] | ΔW Change: ↓15.94% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)
  • Deaths: 616,920 (+393 [+497] | ΔW Change: ↓6.65% | Σ Increase: ↑0.08%)

6/19: <S>
  • Cases: 34,401,712 (+8,443 | ΔW Change: ↓11.93% | Σ Increase: ↑0.02%)
  • Deaths: 617,083 (+163 | ΔW Change: ↓46.56% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)

6/20 (Holiday): <Sunday>
  • Cases: 34,406,001 (+4,289 | ΔW Change: ↓17.93% | Σ Increase: ↑0.01%)
  • Deaths: 617,166 (+83 | ΔW Change: ↑418.75% | Σ Increase: ↑0.01%)

6/21: <M>
  • Cases: 34,419,838 (+6,609 [+13,837] | ΔW Change: ↓9.59% | Σ Increase: ↑0.04%)
  • Deaths: 617,463 (+121 [+297] | ΔW Change: ↑14.15% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)

6/22: <T>
  • Cases: 34,433,696 (+9,898 [+13,858] | ΔW Change: ↓16.71% | Σ Increase: ↑0.04%)
  • Deaths: 617,864 (+335 [+401] | ΔW Change: ↓1.76% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)

6/23 (Yesterday): <W>
  • Cases: 34,449,004 (+12,942 [+15,308] | ΔW Change: ↑1.45% | Σ Increase: ↑0.04%)
  • Deaths: 618,294 (+326 [+430] | ΔW Change: ↓7.39% | Σ Increase: ↑0.07%)

6/24 (Today): <Þ>
  • Cases: 34,464,956 (+13,365 [+15,952] | ΔW Change: ↑16.56% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)
  • Deaths: 618,685 (+329 [+391] | ΔW Change: ↑16.67% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)
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« Reply #4605 on: June 24, 2021, 10:21:57 PM »

it's not a coincidence that CDC:s flip-flop on masks came after disastrous job numbers

Conjecture.
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« Reply #4606 on: June 25, 2021, 02:41:54 AM »

I had a co-worker at my job today tell me they might start wearing a mask again because they are concerned about the Delta variant. People seem to be truly terrified over this.

Mask fearmongering has already cost Biden (and Americans) a bit, both economically - it's not a coincidence that CDC:s flip-flop on masks came after disastrous job numbers - and vaccination wise - people didn't have enough incentive to vaccinate themselves.

Let's hope, this time they will follow the science and use it as an incentive for people to vaccinate  themselves, not "force" vaccinated people to mask themselves/stay home out the work/school out of fear because of an idiotic fearmongering a la forumlurker.
lol. Masks saved perhaps 1-2 million lives in the US during the course of COVID.
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« Reply #4607 on: June 25, 2021, 05:33:19 AM »

Here's a map of "at least one dose" of the vaccine vs. Biden vote percent by state. Dark green states have the most vaccinations compared to Biden's performance and red states have a lower % vaccinated than voted for Biden. Increments of 5, so 30% = 0-5% over/under performance, 40% = 5-10% over/under performance, etc.

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« Reply #4608 on: June 25, 2021, 07:44:22 PM »

I know Atlas doesn’t want to hear bad news ever, but 26 out of the 73 people who have died from the Delta variant in the UK being fully vaccinated is a bit concerning. This is not even a case of symptomatic cases...we are talking full on deaths, which one would think would be more likely to be prevented by vaccines, even with these variants.
It’s a very small sample size and we have other data demonstrating strong efficacy of these vaccines as well, but still, we shouldn’t just say everything’s all okay and great now because that’s what makes us feel better.
We need to keep an eye on Delta and learn more about it, and we really need more information on Delta Plus.

I know posters above want to live in lalaland because it’s fun (and I’m guilty of the opposite admittedly), but eventually they will have to grow up and understand reality isn’t so positive all the time.
There is still plenty of reason to be hopeful, and we can quickly adapt these MRNA vaccines if needed, but we are clearly not finished and won’t be for a while.

I don't think it's crazy to be on the opposite spectrum. Maybe that's just my warped view of living in a hard-hit state, but objectively, Americans are among the more obese and unhealthy people in the world. The better question is why we seem to be so drowned in lala land. But if I've learned anything, Americans grossly overestimate how healthy they are, even though roughly 50-60% of Americans are taking some kind of prescription drugs.

And avoiding deaths isn't anything to celebrate. I know tons of elderly here that are still having complications.
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« Reply #4609 on: June 25, 2021, 07:53:59 PM »

I know Atlas doesn’t want to hear bad news ever, but 26 out of the 73 people who have died from the Delta variant in the UK being fully vaccinated is a bit concerning. This is not even a case of symptomatic cases...we are talking full on deaths, which one would think would be more likely to be prevented by vaccines, even with these variants.
It’s a very small sample size and we have other data demonstrating strong efficacy of these vaccines as well, but still, we shouldn’t just say everything’s all okay and great now because that’s what makes us feel better.
We need to keep an eye on Delta and learn more about it, and we really need more information on Delta Plus.

I know posters above want to live in lalaland because it’s fun (and I’m guilty of the opposite admittedly), but eventually they will have to grow up and understand reality isn’t so positive all the time.
There is still plenty of reason to be hopeful, and we can quickly adapt these MRNA vaccines if needed, but we are clearly not finished and won’t be for a while.

Most UK adults are vaccinated though, particularly those that are vulnerable of dying of Covid. So far there has been a negligible increase in deaths for a significant rise in cases, we need to wait and see but hopefully the link between cases and deaths is virtually broken.
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« Reply #4610 on: June 25, 2021, 09:20:05 PM »

The updated numbers for COVID-19 in the U.S. are in for 6/25 per: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I'm keeping track of these updates daily and updating at the end of the day, whenever all states finish reporting for that day.

ΔW Change: Comparisons of Weekly Day-to-day Growth or Decline of COVID-19 Spread/Deaths.
  • IE: Comparing the numbers to the same day of last week, are we flattening the curve enough?

Σ Increase: A day's contribution to overall percentage growth of COVID-19 cases/deaths.
  • IE:What's the overall change in the total?

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  • These numbers are inflated relative to the actual reports for the day, so they are not used to calculate the comparative percentage shifts.

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6/13: <Sunday>
  • Cases: 34,321,093 (+5,226 | ΔW Change: ↓18.45% | Σ Increase: ↑0.02%)
  • Deaths: 615,053 (+16 | ΔW Change: ↓90.36% | Σ Increase: ↑0.00%)

6/14: <M>
  • Cases: 34,334,299 (+7,310 [+13,206] | ΔW Change: ↓40.49% | Σ Increase: ↑0.04%)
  • Deaths: 615,263 (+106 [+210] | ΔW Change: ↓68.36% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)

6/15: <T>
  • Cases: 34,351,363 (+11,884 [+17,064] | ΔW Change: ↓12.24% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)
  • Deaths: 615,703 (+341 [+440] | ΔW Change: ↓2.85% | Σ Increase: ↑0.07%)

6/16: <W>
  • Cases: 34,365,327 (+12,757 [+13,964] | ΔW Change: ↓10.17% | Σ Increase: ↑0.04%)
  • Deaths: 616,141 (+352 [+438] | ΔW Change: ↓20.36% | Σ Increase: ↑0.07%)

6/17: <Þ>
  • Cases: 34,376,793 (+11,466 | ΔW Change: ↑7.06% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)
  • Deaths: 616,423 (+282 | ΔW Change: ↓31.55% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)

6/18: <F>
  • Cases: 34,393,269 (+13,389 [+16,476] | ΔW Change: ↓15.94% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)
  • Deaths: 616,920 (+393 [+497] | ΔW Change: ↓6.65% | Σ Increase: ↑0.08%)

6/19: <S>
  • Cases: 34,401,712 (+8,443 | ΔW Change: ↓11.93% | Σ Increase: ↑0.02%)
  • Deaths: 617,083 (+163 | ΔW Change: ↓46.56% | Σ Increase: ↑0.03%)

6/20 (Holiday): <Sunday>
  • Cases: 34,406,001 (+4,289 | ΔW Change: ↓17.93% | Σ Increase: ↑0.01%)
  • Deaths: 617,166 (+83 | ΔW Change: ↑418.75% | Σ Increase: ↑0.01%)

6/21: <M>
  • Cases: 34,419,838 (+6,609 [+13,837] | ΔW Change: ↓9.59% | Σ Increase: ↑0.04%)
  • Deaths: 617,463 (+121 [+297] | ΔW Change: ↑14.15% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)

6/22: <T>
  • Cases: 34,433,696 (+9,898 [+13,858] | ΔW Change: ↓16.71% | Σ Increase: ↑0.04%)
  • Deaths: 617,864 (+335 [+401] | ΔW Change: ↓1.76% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)

6/23: <W>
  • Cases: 34,449,004 (+12,942 [+15,308] | ΔW Change: ↑1.45% | Σ Increase: ↑0.04%)
  • Deaths: 618,294 (+326 [+430] | ΔW Change: ↓7.39% | Σ Increase: ↑0.07%)

6/24 (Yesterday): <Þ>
  • Cases: 34,464,956 (+13,365 [+15,952] | ΔW Change: ↑16.56% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)
  • Deaths: 618,685 (+329 [+391] | ΔW Change: ↑16.67% | Σ Increase: ↑0.06%)

6/25 (Today): <F>
  • Cases: 34,482,672 (+15,537 [+17,716] | ΔW Change: ↑16.04% | Σ Increase: ↑0.05%)
  • Deaths: 619,152 (+387 [+467] | ΔW Change: ↑1.53% | Σ Increase: ↑0.08%)
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« Reply #4611 on: June 25, 2021, 09:26:08 PM »

Why does there seem to be a reoccurrence of red this week?
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« Reply #4612 on: June 25, 2021, 09:30:27 PM »

Why does there seem to be a reoccurrence of red this week?

Because of the announcement of Red (Taylor’s Version)

Similar resurgences happened on Spotify and Apple Music
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« Reply #4613 on: June 25, 2021, 09:35:19 PM »

Why does there seem to be a reoccurrence of red this week?

I think we bottomed out due to vaccines, and now it's starting to spread among the unvaccinated again. It doesn't have the real estate due to expand too much anymore, but unless we manage to get more people to sign up for the vaccines, it might trend up for a while.
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« Reply #4614 on: June 25, 2021, 09:48:56 PM »

Why does there seem to be a reoccurrence of red this week?

When you dip to a point with fewer daily cases than has been seen in over a year, a small increase is inevitable, and the percentages start to get wild. I wouldn’t worry too much about it until we start seeing it consistently for a few weeks.
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« Reply #4615 on: June 25, 2021, 09:49:06 PM »

Why does there seem to be a reoccurrence of red this week?

Delta variant (far more transmissible) is becoming the dominant variant and spreading to more locations
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« Reply #4616 on: June 25, 2021, 10:01:00 PM »

Why does there seem to be a reoccurrence of red this week?

When you dip to a point with fewer daily cases than has been seen in over a year, a small increase is inevitable, and the percentages start to get wild. I wouldn’t worry too much about it until we start seeing it consistently for a few weeks.
The UK and Israel which have had fairly good vaccination programs are seeing a rise in Covid Cases. Deaths remain to be seen but it seems unlikely so far
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« Reply #4617 on: June 25, 2021, 10:29:44 PM »

Why does there seem to be a reoccurrence of red this week?

I think we bottomed out due to vaccines, and now it's starting to spread among the unvaccinated again. It doesn't have the real estate due to expand too much anymore, but unless we manage to get more people to sign up for the vaccines, it might trend up for a while.

I certainly do find it frustrating that there are so many people refusing to get the vaccine. But I saw a news report yesterday stating that the overwhelming majority of cases and deaths that we are now seeing are among the unvaccinated. The vaccine has been readily available for some time now, and anyone who still refuses to get it is putting themselves at jeopardy.
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« Reply #4618 on: June 26, 2021, 12:19:00 AM »

I hope there won’t be another lockdown, I recently got a job at my local movie theater and our business is picking back up.
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« Reply #4619 on: June 26, 2021, 02:47:05 AM »

Why does there seem to be a reoccurrence of red this week?

When you dip to a point with fewer daily cases than has been seen in over a year, a small increase is inevitable, and the percentages start to get wild. I wouldn’t worry too much about it until we start seeing it consistently for a few weeks.
The UK and Israel which have had fairly good vaccination programs are seeing a rise in Covid Cases. Deaths remain to be seen but it seems unlikely so far
America's vac strategy was mostly Pfizer + Moderna, whereas the UK relied heavily on AZ which needs both doses to be effective against Delta (whereas Pfizer can give you a lot of effectiveness with just one). The death rate will be interesting, yes - if caes are high but deaths are almost non-existant, does that make it any different to the normal flu?
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« Reply #4620 on: June 26, 2021, 02:50:59 AM »

Why does there seem to be a reoccurrence of red this week?

When you dip to a point with fewer daily cases than has been seen in over a year, a small increase is inevitable, and the percentages start to get wild. I wouldn’t worry too much about it until we start seeing it consistently for a few weeks.
The UK and Israel which have had fairly good vaccination programs are seeing a rise in Covid Cases. Deaths remain to be seen but it seems unlikely so far
America's vac strategy was mostly Pfizer + Moderna, whereas the UK relied heavily on AZ which needs both doses to be effective against Delta (whereas Pfizer can give you a lot of effectiveness with just one). The death rate will be interesting, yes - if caes are high but deaths are almost non-existant, does that make it any different to the normal flu?
It makes a difference for anti vaxxers. Even though they are largely MAGA and Stop the Steal supporters, we do have an obligation to protect them.
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« Reply #4621 on: June 26, 2021, 02:54:49 AM »

Why does there seem to be a reoccurrence of red this week?

When you dip to a point with fewer daily cases than has been seen in over a year, a small increase is inevitable, and the percentages start to get wild. I wouldn’t worry too much about it until we start seeing it consistently for a few weeks.
The UK and Israel which have had fairly good vaccination programs are seeing a rise in Covid Cases. Deaths remain to be seen but it seems unlikely so far
America's vac strategy was mostly Pfizer + Moderna, whereas the UK relied heavily on AZ which needs both doses to be effective against Delta (whereas Pfizer can give you a lot of effectiveness with just one). The death rate will be interesting, yes - if caes are high but deaths are almost non-existant, does that make it any different to the normal flu?

This is the case with deaths, not so much with symptomatic transmission/contagiousness. 
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« Reply #4622 on: June 26, 2021, 06:09:53 AM »

Why does there seem to be a reoccurrence of red this week?

When you dip to a point with fewer daily cases than has been seen in over a year, a small increase is inevitable, and the percentages start to get wild. I wouldn’t worry too much about it until we start seeing it consistently for a few weeks.
The UK and Israel which have had fairly good vaccination programs are seeing a rise in Covid Cases. Deaths remain to be seen but it seems unlikely so far
America's vac strategy was mostly Pfizer + Moderna, whereas the UK relied heavily on AZ which needs both doses to be effective against Delta (whereas Pfizer can give you a lot of effectiveness with just one). The death rate will be interesting, yes - if caes are high but deaths are almost non-existant, does that make it any different to the normal flu?

This is the case with deaths, not so much with symptomatic transmission/contagiousness. 
Yes. But isn't one shot of Pfizer as effective as two shots of AZ in preventing hospitalisations? I guess my point is that the UK's strategy likely needs more full vaccinations to 100% work.

But even then hosptialisations & deaths haven't really risen which shows the effectiveness of the shots. Anyone arguing that it is not our best defence against the virus is silly.
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« Reply #4623 on: June 26, 2021, 07:06:01 AM »

I hope there won’t be another lockdown, I recently got a job at my local movie theater and our business is picking back up.

I don't support lockdowns right now, but I think we've moved far too fast in eliminating our other good measures. Masks and social distancing have been extraordinarily effective. The CDC made a big mistakes and moved too fast. We should've relaxed restrictions as we met certain vaccine benchmarks.

As I said before, I believe in the vaccines. I wouldn't have allowed myself to be injected with two doses of Pfizer's vaccine if I didn't. However, I do think warm weather is giving us an artificial low. I'm very concerned about a low vaccine uptake and viral mutations that manage to get past our vaccines. That would spread worse than a wildfire.
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« Reply #4624 on: June 26, 2021, 07:31:22 AM »

I hope there won’t be another lockdown, I recently got a job at my local movie theater and our business is picking back up.

I don't support lockdowns right now, but I think we've moved far too fast in eliminating our other good measures. Masks and social distancing have been extraordinarily effective. The CDC made a big mistakes and moved too fast. We should've relaxed restrictions as we met certain vaccine benchmarks.

As I said before, I believe in the vaccines. I wouldn't have allowed myself to be injected with two doses of Pfizer's vaccine if I didn't. However, I do think warm weather is giving us an artificial low. I'm very concerned about a low vaccine uptake and viral mutations that manage to get past our vaccines. That would spread worse than a wildfire.

How many people reasonably have not had the vaccine because they didn't have the opportunity to do so? Once people get that chance, the basis for restricting people's lives is much weaker and the argument that they have a personal responsibility to protect themselves is suddenly valid.
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