COVID-19 Megathread 6: Return of the Omicron
Meclazine for Israel:
Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on August 03, 2020, 07:09:20 PM
Quote from: One of Those People on August 03, 2020, 07:02:32 PM
Quote from: Bandit3 the Worker on August 03, 2020, 02:33:28 PM
People are done listening to the "Lockdown! Lockdown! Lockdown!" types.
We wouldn’t have as big of a problem if people listened to them in the first place.
In fairness the bigger problem was state and local governments getting impatient and lifting the lock-downs themselves even in spite of the risks.
You can more accurately blame ordinary people for not abiding by mask-wearing or social distancing protocols though. That was the next fail-safe.
One of the real apparent learnings from this is you cannot trust people to regulate themself in a crisis.
Australia knocks on the doors of the homes of people isolating after they test positive to COVID-19.
Around 25-30% are not at home. They go back to work, at the gym, go shopping.
So that means that one third of people, once infected are not concerned about others getting infected. Once infected, their psychology flips to 'active infector'. Think about that carefully. Until you are infected, you cannot imagine thinking that way.
Now out of your two points, Government control in this pandemic is the only option. Removal of infected subjects from the population is a very very effective tool to stop community transmission.
That is why Asian cultures such as South Korea and Singapore achieve better results.
Australia is screwed because 1/3rd of our population carry on like this:
Bunnings Karen Does Not Wear A Mask
https://youtu.be/heY0lvOM0Sw
There is no balance here between personal freedom and Government control unless you have intelligent citizens.
Omega21:
Quote from: Meclazine on August 04, 2020, 08:16:38 AM
Quote from: Progressive Pessimist on August 03, 2020, 07:09:20 PM
Quote from: One of Those People on August 03, 2020, 07:02:32 PM
Quote from: Bandit3 the Worker on August 03, 2020, 02:33:28 PM
People are done listening to the "Lockdown! Lockdown! Lockdown!" types.
We wouldn’t have as big of a problem if people listened to them in the first place.
In fairness the bigger problem was state and local governments getting impatient and lifting the lock-downs themselves even in spite of the risks.
You can more accurately blame ordinary people for not abiding by mask-wearing or social distancing protocols though. That was the next fail-safe.
One of the real apparent learnings from this is you cannot trust people to regulate themself in a crisis.
Australia knocks on the doors of the homes of people isolating after they test positive to COVID-19.
Around 25-30% are not at home. They go back to work, at the gym, go shopping.
So that means that one third of people, once infected are not concerned about others getting infected. Once infected, their psychology flips to 'active infector'. Think about that carefully. Until you are infected, you cannot imagine thinking that way.
Now out of your two points, Government control in this pandemic is the only option. Removal of infected subjects from the population is a very very effective tool to stop community transmission.
That is why Asian cultures such as South Korea and Singspore achieve better results.
Are there any fines in place if they don't stick to the quarantine while positive?
Meclazine for Israel:
Good question.
SnowLabrador:
Anthony Fauci says that we're screwed if, by September, we don't have cases down to 10,000 a day or less.
So that means we're screwed, because there's no reason to think cases won't continue to skyrocket.
Landslide Lyndon:
That will end well.
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