COVID-19 Megathread 6: Return of the Omicron

[Doomer]

Something that is probably worth repeating: The majority of the unvaccinated are probably Trump supporters, but the majority of Trump supporters are vaccinated.

Fixed that for you.

And the damage that has been done by your party demonizing science is going to be irreversible with longterm consequences.

Shut the everloving f**k up. I LITERALLY VOTED FOR BIDEN. I GOT VACCINATED ALMOST AS SOON AS IT WAS AVAILABLE TO ME AND I'M BOOSTED. You are f**king deranged and need help. Now.

Dude, calm the f down.

I didn't say anything about you personally or how you voted, #1.

And are you denying the impact of science denial perpetrated by Republicans?  I'm not talking about just vaccination. I'm saying that will have longterm consequences in terms of public health. Are you saying that's incorrect?

[Hammy]

Something that is probably worth repeating: The majority of the unvaccinated are probably Trump supporters, but the majority of Trump supporters are vaccinated.

Seems in line with the 25-35% of the country that seems to go against whatever's good for society.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Biden polls are gonna surge since COVID is on the downtrend I told everyone that this was gonna happen all the R users was on Pbower Approvals making fun of Biden 35 percent because of the Omnicron surge where are they at now, COVID has fade


D's already lead on the GCB 42/34 and Prez Approvals don't mean much in a Midterm anyways Trump kept the Senate in 5 percent unemployment with 40/57 Approvals



We are in good position to win the Midterms even with COVID if we don't win the H we will win key Senate and Gov races the Shapiro, Whitmer, Evers, Polis and Grisham, Healey, Perez, and T Sherman will all win

[Meclazine for Israel]

Shut the everloving f**k up. I LITERALLY VOTED FOR BIDEN. I GOT VACCINATED ALMOST AS SOON AS IT WAS AVAILABLE TO ME AND I'M BOOSTED. You are a f**king deranged hack and need help. Now.

You seem agitated.

[Calthrina950]

Shut the everloving f**k up. I LITERALLY VOTED FOR BIDEN. I GOT VACCINATED ALMOST AS SOON AS IT WAS AVAILABLE TO ME AND I'M BOOSTED. You are a f**king deranged hack and need help. Now.

You seem agitated.

I have noticed that Rolls Roons has become more partisan or "based", the term which "online" people like to use, in recent months. Putting up with some of the nonsense on this forum can push you in that direction. 

[Calthrina950]

This article discusses how the CDC has withheld much of the data concerning the effectiveness of the vaccine and of boosters among 18-49 year olds. This decision has been justified on the fear that such data could be "misinterpreted", in a manner that would cast doubt on vaccine effectiveness and fuel conspiracy theories regarding them. But I also feel that it is an abdication of duty on the agency's part, particularly since many health officials and experts say that their efforts would have been boosted by having access to this data.

[Zohranism is OUR future]

Shut the everloving f**k up. I LITERALLY VOTED FOR BIDEN. I GOT VACCINATED ALMOST AS SOON AS IT WAS AVAILABLE TO ME AND I'M BOOSTED. You are a f**king deranged hack and need help. Now.

You seem agitated.

I have noticed that Rolls Roons has become more partisan or "based", the term which "online" people like to use, in recent months. Putting up with some of the nonsense on this forum can push you in that direction. 

Based isn’t really a synonym for partisan, it can be but it’s used to indicate you strongly agree with something, whether ironically or unironically.

E.g.
“We should invade Austria”
“Dude…based and Anti-Austria pilled”

[GregTheGreat657]

As long as I am not being forced to wear a mask, I will not wear a mask

[ElectionsGuy]

This article discusses how the CDC has withheld much of the data concerning the effectiveness of the vaccine and of boosters among 18-49 year olds. This decision has been justified on the fear that such data could be "misinterpreted", in a manner that would cast doubt on vaccine effectiveness and fuel conspiracy theories regarding them. But I also feel that it is an abdication of duty on the agency's part, particularly since many health officials and experts say that their efforts would have been boosted by having access to this data.

They believe we're too stupid for it. Only the "experts" can see. This is why we rely so much on other countries' data. The CDC is an absolute dumpster fire of an institution.

This is the same sanctimonious attitude that led to Fauci and co. saying "masks don't work" in March of 2020 in an attempt to save them for healthcare workers. Because regular people are too stupid to be told accurate information that might be inconvenient for the short-term.

[Calthrina950]

This article discusses how the CDC has withheld much of the data concerning the effectiveness of the vaccine and of boosters among 18-49 year olds. This decision has been justified on the fear that such data could be "misinterpreted", in a manner that would cast doubt on vaccine effectiveness and fuel conspiracy theories regarding them. But I also feel that it is an abdication of duty on the agency's part, particularly since many health officials and experts say that their efforts would have been boosted by having access to this data.

They believe we're too stupid for it. Only the "experts" can see. This is why we rely so much on other countries' data. The CDC is an absolute dumpster fire of an institution.

This is the same sanctimonious attitude that led to Fauci and co. saying "masks don't work" in March of 2020 in an attempt to save them for healthcare workers. Because regular people are too stupid to be told accurate information that might be inconvenient for the short-term.

My opinion of the CDC certainly has declined in recent months. In the article, someone notes that the CDC is as much a political organization as it is a medical or health organization, and the pandemic has shown that to be very true. The shifting stances on mask wearing, the withholding of data, the eviction moratorium, and the favoritism given to Pfizer, with regards to vaccine contracts, all demonstrate this. What is frustrating is that so many businesses and institutions continue to maintain mandates and restrictions based upon CDC recommendations, and they will only change when the CDC does. Fortunately, the CDC is supposed to be changing sometime this week.

[Trump Is A Maoist]

Fortunately, the CDC is supposed to be changing sometime this week.

This is fake news. Mask mandates are going to be permanent. Atlas told me so.

[インターネット掲示板ユーザー Punxsutawney Phil]

This article discusses how the CDC has withheld much of the data concerning the effectiveness of the vaccine and of boosters among 18-49 year olds. This decision has been justified on the fear that such data could be "misinterpreted", in a manner that would cast doubt on vaccine effectiveness and fuel conspiracy theories regarding them. But I also feel that it is an abdication of duty on the agency's part, particularly since many health officials and experts say that their efforts would have been boosted by having access to this data.

They believe we're too stupid for it. Only the "experts" can see. This is why we rely so much on other countries' data. The CDC is an absolute dumpster fire of an institution.

This is the same sanctimonious attitude that led to Fauci and co. saying "masks don't work" in March of 2020 in an attempt to save them for healthcare workers. Because regular people are too stupid to be told accurate information that might be inconvenient for the short-term.

My opinion of the CDC certainly has declined in recent months. In the article, someone notes that the CDC is as much a political organization as it is a medical or health organization, and the pandemic has shown that to be very true. The shifting stances on mask wearing, the withholding of data, the eviction moratorium, and the favoritism given to Pfizer, with regards to vaccine contracts, all demonstrate this. What is frustrating is that so many businesses and institutions continue to maintain mandates and restrictions based upon CDC recommendations, and they will only change when the CDC does. Fortunately, the CDC is supposed to be changing sometime this week.

There was always something preposterous about the CDC doing an eviction moratorium.
The CDC is ultimately a tool of politicians and should probably be seen as such. When Trump was president, he would use the CDC to bolster Operation Warp Speed, and Biden has used the CDC to bolster his plans as well.

[Calthrina950]

Shut the everloving f**k up. I LITERALLY VOTED FOR BIDEN. I GOT VACCINATED ALMOST AS SOON AS IT WAS AVAILABLE TO ME AND I'M BOOSTED. You are a f**king deranged hack and need help. Now.

You seem agitated.

I have noticed that Rolls Roons has become more partisan or "based", the term which "online" people like to use, in recent months. Putting up with some of the nonsense on this forum can push you in that direction. 

Based isn’t really a synonym for partisan, it can be but it’s used to indicate you strongly agree with something, whether ironically or unironically.

E.g.
“We should invade Austria”
“Dude…based and Anti-Austria pilled”

As I said, I'm not an expert on online terminology, but that's the term that comes closest to capturing what I mean. The point I'm making is that he's becoming prouder of his partisan identity. He also seems to really like Ron DeSantis.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

This article discusses how the CDC has withheld much of the data concerning the effectiveness of the vaccine and of boosters among 18-49 year olds. This decision has been justified on the fear that such data could be "misinterpreted", in a manner that would cast doubt on vaccine effectiveness and fuel conspiracy theories regarding them. But I also feel that it is an abdication of duty on the agency's part, particularly since many health officials and experts say that their efforts would have been boosted by having access to this data.

I remember just a few weeks ago someone linked to CDC data in this thread that included covid death rates by age and vaccination status, including 18-49.  I distinctly remember that the total number of reported deaths among boosted 18-49s was 5 people.

[Joe Biden 2028]

Meanwhile most red states moved on 18 months ago.

[Frodo]

As of Presidents' Day, the weekly average COVID death toll fell under 2,000 for the first time since January:

COVID-19 Update: US Death Toll Falls Below 2,000 Per Day For First Time In A Month

[DINGO Joe]

This article discusses how the CDC has withheld much of the data concerning the effectiveness of the vaccine and of boosters among 18-49 year olds. This decision has been justified on the fear that such data could be "misinterpreted", in a manner that would cast doubt on vaccine effectiveness and fuel conspiracy theories regarding them. But I also feel that it is an abdication of duty on the agency's part, particularly since many health officials and experts say that their efforts would have been boosted by having access to this data.

I remember just a few weeks ago someone linked to CDC data in this thread that included covid death rates by age and vaccination status, including 18-49.  I distinctly remember that the total number of reported deaths among boosted 18-49s was 5 people.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e2.htm#T1_down

I think this what you were citing, and while the incident of vaxxed boosted deaths were quite low, it was from 25 jurisdictions for Oct and Nov with a total of 16527 Covid deaths across all ages.  Plus, there's no data as to what % of 18-49 were actually boosted and at what point.  I'm over 50 and I didn't get boosted until October.  I mean vaxxing and boosting are good, but they probably aren't that good.

Like with everything else with Covid as the pandemic has progressed, to me the most striking thing is how much whiter the deaths have become and that has even been super magnified among the younger deaths.

[DINGO Joe]

To that point, in 2020 Whites made up 23% of the deaths in the 40-49 group and 21% in the 30-39.  In 2021 Whites made up 46% and 41% of the deaths in the respective age groups.  And in the limited 2022 data, those numbers are 56% and 50%

[DINGO Joe]

This looks interesting



-As expected, a lot of vaccinated Trump voters in retirement areas of Florida and a lot of unvaccinated Biden voters in the cultural South (particularly in Atlanta)

-Less well known is the high concentration of vaccinated Trump voters in Appalachia (!)

-On the other hand, vaccination rates are even lower than would be expected in the Ozarks

-Little or no evidence of an anti-vax granola left effect as NorCal and the Pacific NW have higher vaccination rates than predicted by election results

-Western NM/Eastern AZ are doing really well and look like the Northeast here

-Southside VA looks like the Deep South here and it spills into NE NC

Image Source: https://twitter.com/Mill226/status/1490438915156676610/photo/1

I think the major factor being exposed by this graph is race, and this is unsurprising given what we know about vaccination rates across demographic groups.  Conditional on party, Black Americans are less likely to be vaccinated than Whites (especially rural Black residents), while Latinos are more likely to be vaccinated.

The high vax rates among Latinos is one of the biggest overlooked stories of the pandemic, and one that Democrats should really be trying to capitalize on.

Regardless of what vax data shows, Black Americans were the only ones that may have had a decline in Covid deaths in 2021, granted a decline of less than 1%, but that certainly looks great compared to an increase of 30% in deaths among whites. 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/health_disparities.htm#RaceHispanicOrigin

I mean white people made up 60% of the deaths in 2020, 66% in 2021 and Feb looks like the 5th straight month with white deaths topping the 70% mark.

[Aliens]

Mayor Lightfoot and Dr Arwady decided to lift the Chicago mask and vaccine mandates with the rest of the state on the 28th.

[インターネット掲示板ユーザー Punxsutawney Phil]

This looks interesting



-As expected, a lot of vaccinated Trump voters in retirement areas of Florida and a lot of unvaccinated Biden voters in the cultural South (particularly in Atlanta)

-Less well known is the high concentration of vaccinated Trump voters in Appalachia (!)

-On the other hand, vaccination rates are even lower than would be expected in the Ozarks

-Little or no evidence of an anti-vax granola left effect as NorCal and the Pacific NW have higher vaccination rates than predicted by election results

-Western NM/Eastern AZ are doing really well and look like the Northeast here

-Southside VA looks like the Deep South here and it spills into NE NC

Image Source: https://twitter.com/Mill226/status/1490438915156676610/photo/1

Fascinating map.
Why no data from VT?

[Can't Bear]

https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1496364357814476802

[Doomer]

https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1496364357814476802

I fully believe that this isn't a natural virus, but rather one created in and leaked from a lab. I've believed this for some time. I don't think it's that radical of an idea, but rather the most likely.

[Roll Roons]

https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1496364357814476802

But I was told that this is a wacky conspiracy theory on par with thinking the Earth is flat and that believing it might be true means you hate all Asian people.

[Doomer]

But I was told that this is a wacky conspiracy theory on par with thinking the Earth is flat and that believing it might be true means you hate all Asian people.

It's pretty dumb people tried to equate this theory to racism. It's as valid a theory as any other and deserves investigating.