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« on: October 07, 2020, 05:17:02 PM »

I don't think this has been done before, but what do you think would happen if the 22nd Amendment wasn't passed? What would the Presidencies be like? This is what I'm thinking.

Dwight Eisenhower 1953-1961
John F. Kennedy 1961-1963
Lyndon B. Johnson 1963-1969
Richard Nixon 1969-1974
Gerald Ford 1974-1977
Jimmy Carter 1977-1981
Ronald Reagen 1981-1989
George H. W. Bush 1989-1993
Bill Clinton 1993-2009
Mitt Romney 2009-2013
Barack Obama 2013-
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2020, 06:01:39 PM »

Assuming Watergate wasn't a thing, Nixon would have run for (and won) a third term.

I don't think Eisenhower or Reagan would have run for third terms because of health reasons.

I think Bill Clinton still would have retired as President, but he would have instead served as Hillary's running mate in 2000 if the two-term limit wasn't an issue.

Obama might not get elected until 2016 (or at all to this point).
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2020, 06:17:09 PM »

I agree for the most part. Mitt Romney I feel would have been re-elected in 2012 and might have run for a third term in 2016 however. It is also possible that George W. Bush runs in 2008 instead.
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2020, 07:07:00 PM »

Things may have changed so much it's hard to say. Your timeline doesn't seem implausible though. Due to circumstances, there weren't a whole lot of opportunities for a president before Clinton to run for a third term. Bush and Carter were one-termers who lost re-election, Ford was a placeholder who lost his first election, Nixon resigned, LBJ chose not to run for even a second term, and well we all know what happened to JFK.

Ike and Reagan are the only others who might have. But Ike probably would have respected Washington's "two term tradition" and wouldn't have wanted to run again anyway. And Reagan's mind had started to go by 1988. Even if he had run and won again, no way he runs in 1992.

I'm not sure if Mitt Romney would have been a one-term president who lost to Obama in 2012 in this case though. That seems a lot more speculative. Mitt might never have ran in 2008, Obama might not have been the one who challenged him, and whoever did might not have won. Four terms of Bill Clinton would certainly shake things up quite a bit.
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2020, 07:26:55 PM »

Things may have changed so much it's hard to say. Your timeline doesn't seem implausible though. Due to circumstances, there weren't a whole lot of opportunities for a president before Clinton to run for a third term. Bush and Carter were one-termers who lost re-election, Ford was a placeholder who lost his first election, Nixon resigned, LBJ chose not to run for even a second term, and well we all know what happened to JFK.

Ike and Reagan are the only others who might have. But Ike probably would have respected Washington's "two term tradition" and wouldn't have wanted to run again anyway. And Reagan's mind had started to go by 1988. Even if he had run and won again, no way he runs in 1992.

I'm not sure if Mitt Romney would have been a one-term president who lost to Obama in 2012 in this case though. That seems a lot more speculative. Mitt might never have ran in 2008, Obama might not have been the one who challenged him, and whoever did might not have won. Four terms of Bill Clinton would certainly shake things up quite a bit.


Not much to say but that I completely agree with everything you said on this post
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2020, 12:39:42 PM »

IMO, Obama is probably the first person that the 22nd really affected.

Eisenhower was getting quite old and I don’t think he would have ran if he could. He probably could have won if he did run, however.

Reagan was also getting old and in poor health. Similar to Eisenhower, he might’ve been able to win if he did run, but idk.

Clinton was just coming out of a scandal and I believe he was also in poor health to some extent.

Bush 43, while he isn’t the brightest bulb in the pack, is smart enough to know that running in 2008 would’ve been a bad idea.

That leaves Obama. He is probably the best positioned to run for and win a third term, especially if Trump is his opponent.
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2020, 12:30:13 PM »

Assuming Watergate wasn't a thing, Nixon would have run for (and won) a third term.

I don't think Eisenhower or Reagan would have run for third terms because of health reasons.

I think Bill Clinton still would have retired as President, but he would have instead served as Hillary's running mate in 2000 if the two-term limit wasn't an issue.

Obama might not get elected until 2016 (or at all to this point).

Wait what? No. No no no. For one thing, Bill is on record saying he wished there wasn’t a 22nd amendment, so he almost definitely would have run for a third term if possible. Reagan said the same thing by the way, but again I doubt he would have been fit to run by that time. For another thing, Hillary had only been First Lady at that point; there’s a reason she ran for Senate in 2000 instead of going straight for the presidency, and didn’t even run in 2004. She wanted to build experience first. For another thing, there is no chance Bill would take a demotion to VP or that he would be on the same ticket as Hillary. A husband/wife ticket or any other ticket with two people of the same family would not go over well, and they know that.
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