Quinnipiac: Biden +11 in FL, +13 in PA, +5 in IA (user search)
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Author Topic: Quinnipiac: Biden +11 in FL, +13 in PA, +5 in IA  (Read 6033 times)
TiltsAreUnderrated
Junior Chimp
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« on: October 07, 2020, 01:19:53 PM »

The latest message from Q: this board parade is cancelled. ABANDON SHIP
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TiltsAreUnderrated
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2020, 04:57:16 PM »

October 1-5
Changes with August 28 - September 1

FL
1256 likely voters
MoE: 2.8%

Biden 51% (+3)
Trump 40% (-5)
Someone else 1% (n/c)
Don't know/no answer 7% (+2)

IA
1205 likely voters
MoE: 2.8%

Biden 50%
Trump 45%
Someone else 2%
Don't know/no answer 3%

PA
1211 likely voters
MoE: 2.8%

Biden 54% (+2)
Trump 41% (-3)
Someone else 1% (n/c)
Don't know/no answer 3% (n/c)
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TiltsAreUnderrated
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2020, 05:17:34 AM »


Quinnipiac is a high-quality poll and perhaps a gold standard and Trafalgar is a fraudulent garbage poll that shouldn't even be considered. That's where Dems who follow frauds like Nate Silver and Dave Wasserman were at. They lectured and insulted anybody who called into question these polls and their ridiculous margins as being "non-data driven". They said the polls would not have the same problems that they did in 2016 because they changed their methodologies. For months. To say that we should never trust them (really, just certain ones) again is not unreasonable or hyperbolic at this point.

Maybe, just maybe they should do an autopsy and try to figure out what went wrong. It's too bad though, because they're incentivized to provide Dem-inflated numbers so fraudsters like Silver can prop up a narrative that Democrats are winning. Election after election.

I think it's a bit bizarre to suggest pollsters deliberately set out to destroy their own credibility, especially after witnessing firsthand on this forum how many liberal consumers wanted to be told their favoured candidates were trailing.

Trafalgar still doesn't make any more sense than it did before the election and pollsters did not have the same problems as they did in 2016. They were much worse.
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