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« on: October 06, 2020, 08:58:03 PM »


LAW & ORDER!
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2020, 09:44:34 PM »

I would really like to see misuse of weapons be taken more seriously. This is a step in the right direction.
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2020, 01:11:53 AM »

In before fuzzy and several others what about BLM who's going to save us white people?
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2020, 12:08:49 PM »

Now get the rest of the 2A wackos in this state...
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2020, 02:24:09 PM »

Mike Parsons offering a blanket pardon. Republicans are trash.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-missouri-governor-pardon-mccloskey-protesters-20201008-jq7qxpls2fhlvno5ibynj44ml4-story.html#nt=barker
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2020, 02:36:11 PM »


The Grand Deplorable Party.
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2020, 02:42:39 PM »

Once again, proof that law and order means protecting racist whites from scary blacks and Mexicans.
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2020, 02:44:18 PM »

 Blanket pardon is pretty inexcusable. Trumpism continues to infect The Republican Party.
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2020, 02:48:29 PM »

It's so sad that WI doesn't have a respectable governor in charge to issue a complete pardon to prevent the injustice that is occurring up there. Thank goodness these poor victims at least get to live in a good state. Sometimes you should base where you live on politics!
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2020, 07:25:09 PM »

It's so sad that WI doesn't have a respectable governor in charge to issue a complete pardon to prevent the injustice that is occurring up there. Thank goodness these poor victims at least get to live in a good state. Sometimes you should base where you live on politics!

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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2020, 07:47:32 PM »

Blanket pardon is pretty inexcusable. Trumpism continues to infect The Republican Party.
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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2020, 07:52:33 PM »

It's so sad that WI doesn't have a respectable governor in charge to issue a complete pardon to prevent the injustice that is occurring up there. Thank goodness these poor victims at least get to live in a good state. Sometimes you should base where you live on politics!

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Actually, it was quite good.
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2020, 11:46:49 AM »

The prosecution of the McCloskey's is outrageous.

That I would have to lay that out in a reasoned argument is ridiculous. 

What right do people have to defend their homes against threatening mobs when the police aren't forthcoming?  The McCloskey's injured no one, but they let an angry and threatening mob know that they were not going to allow people to take over their house, kill their dog, and carry out the other threats a large mob were making after breaking down a gate to enter their private community.

Kim Gardner is a prosecutor who is prosecuting the McCloskeys, but refuses to prosecute St. Louis's rioters form BLM and Antifa unless there's no way to avoid it.  Right.  The McCloskeys have deprived no one of their Constitutional Rights.  That's far, far more than BLM and Antifa can say.
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2020, 12:06:16 PM »

In before fuzzy and several others what about BLM who's going to save us white people?
The prosecution of the McCloskey's is outrageous.

That I would have to lay that out in a reasoned argument is ridiculous. 

What right do people have to defend their homes against threatening mobs when the police aren't forthcoming?  The McCloskey's injured no one, but they let an angry and threatening mob know that they were not going to allow people to take over their house, kill their dog, and carry out the other threats a large mob were making after breaking down a gate to enter their private community.

Kim Gardner is a prosecutor who is prosecuting the McCloskeys, but refuses to prosecute St. Louis's rioters form BLM and Antifa unless there's no way to avoid it.  Right.  The McCloskeys have deprived no one of their Constitutional Rights.  That's far, far more than BLM and Antifa can say.
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2020, 12:11:12 PM »

In before fuzzy and several others what about BLM who's going to save us white people?
The prosecution of the McCloskey's is outrageous.

That I would have to lay that out in a reasoned argument is ridiculous. 

What right do people have to defend their homes against threatening mobs when the police aren't forthcoming?  The McCloskey's injured no one, but they let an angry and threatening mob know that they were not going to allow people to take over their house, kill their dog, and carry out the other threats a large mob were making after breaking down a gate to enter their private community.

Kim Gardner is a prosecutor who is prosecuting the McCloskeys, but refuses to prosecute St. Louis's rioters form BLM and Antifa unless there's no way to avoid it.  Right.  The McCloskeys have deprived no one of their Constitutional Rights.  That's far, far more than BLM and Antifa can say.
Like clockwork

They are more predictable than a Michael Bay movie.
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2020, 12:20:58 PM »

In before fuzzy and several others what about BLM who's going to save us white people?
The prosecution of the McCloskey's is outrageous.

That I would have to lay that out in a reasoned argument is ridiculous. 

What right do people have to defend their homes against threatening mobs when the police aren't forthcoming?  The McCloskey's injured no one, but they let an angry and threatening mob know that they were not going to allow people to take over their house, kill their dog, and carry out the other threats a large mob were making after breaking down a gate to enter their private community.

Kim Gardner is a prosecutor who is prosecuting the McCloskeys, but refuses to prosecute St. Louis's rioters form BLM and Antifa unless there's no way to avoid it.  Right.  The McCloskeys have deprived no one of their Constitutional Rights.  That's far, far more than BLM and Antifa can say.
Like clockwork

They are more predictable than a Michael Bay movie.

It's not about "saving white people".  It's about what a person, regardless of race, is to do when they are under attack by a mob and police presence is not forthcoming.
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2020, 02:06:16 PM »

The prosecution of the McCloskey's is outrageous.

That I would have to lay that out in a reasoned argument is ridiculous. 

What right do people have to defend their homes against threatening mobs when the police aren't forthcoming?  The McCloskey's injured no one, but they let an angry and threatening mob know that they were not going to allow people to take over their house, kill their dog, and carry out the other threats a large mob were making after breaking down a gate to enter their private community.

Kim Gardner is a prosecutor who is prosecuting the McCloskeys, but refuses to prosecute St. Louis's rioters form BLM and Antifa unless there's no way to avoid it.  Right.  The McCloskeys have deprived no one of their Constitutional Rights.  That's far, far more than BLM and Antifa can say.

In addition to not having the basic facts of this particular case correct, more broadly speaking you are simply out of touch with mainstream America on these issues. Society has passed you by.
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2020, 02:24:08 PM »
« Edited: October 10, 2020, 03:32:45 PM by TexasGurl »

In before fuzzy and several others what about BLM who's going to save us white people?
The prosecution of the McCloskey's is outrageous.

That I would have to lay that out in a reasoned argument is ridiculous.  

What right do people have to defend their homes against threatening mobs when the police aren't forthcoming?  The McCloskey's injured no one, but they let an angry and threatening mob know that they were not going to allow people to take over their house, kill their dog, and carry out the other threats a large mob were making after breaking down a gate to enter their private community.

Kim Gardner is a prosecutor who is prosecuting the McCloskeys, but refuses to prosecute St. Louis's rioters form BLM and Antifa unless there's no way to avoid it.  Right.  The McCloskeys have deprived no one of their Constitutional Rights.  That's far, far more than BLM and Antifa can say.
Like clockwork

They are more predictable than a Michael Bay movie.

It's not about "saving white people".  It's about what a person, regardless of race, is to do when they are under attack by a mob and police presence is not forthcoming.



I've reported your post above.  You don't get to slander people here.  It's not racist to attack BLM and Antifa for what they do.  Neither is a benevolent organization.  

Why would you NOT think you're in danger when a mob of over 100 people breaks down a gate to get to your house, talks about how they're going to occupy your home, sleep in your bed, kill your dog, and other threats, AND police assistance is not forthcoming?  Would you, as a competent person, conclude you were in danger?

The McCloskeys properly displayed force in the face of a threatening bi-racial mob of Leftists verbally threatening them.  It wasn't a mob of 2-3; it was a large enough group that could easily have overpowered them.  But it begs the question:  How much abuse were the McCloskey's required to take before they could affirmatively defend themselves?

What if the rioters invaded their property and got in their personal space and made threats?  Do they have to just take that, legally?

What if they forcibly entered the McCloskey's home and police assistance weren't forthcoming?  How long should the mob be allowed to remain inside their home (after, in fact, committing a burglary)?

What if they began to vandalize the McCloskey's home, inside and out?  

What if they began to throw rocks at the McCloskey's house?

The mob didn't do the things they said they would do because most of them didn't had a firearm, and because the McCloskey's DID have firearms.  That's a savings of money to both the healthcare system and insurance companies, and it didn't deprive a single protester of ANY of their Constitutional Rights.  It was the mob in the streets that was making the threats, and it was the McCloskeys who were in their own home.

To say they were not threatened is ridiculous.  If they were black homeowners and an all-white mob that did exactly what the McCloskey's did, they'd be lionized here.  And rightfully so.  I would lionize such people.  No one has the right to threaten people in one's home.

So tell me just exactly what the McCloskeys SHOULD have done.  What should they have done in this situation?
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2020, 04:00:45 PM »

In addition to not having the basic facts of this particular case correct, more broadly speaking you are simply out of touch with mainstream America on these issues. Society has passed you by.
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2020, 05:01:43 PM »


To quote Joe Pesci from "My Cousin Vinny",  now there's a fu**ing surprise.
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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2020, 06:23:16 PM »

The prosecution of the McCloskey's is outrageous.

That I would have to lay that out in a reasoned argument is ridiculous. 

What right do people have to defend their homes against threatening mobs when the police aren't forthcoming?  The McCloskey's injured no one, but they let an angry and threatening mob know that they were not going to allow people to take over their house, kill their dog, and carry out the other threats a large mob were making after breaking down a gate to enter their private community.

Kim Gardner is a prosecutor who is prosecuting the McCloskeys, but refuses to prosecute St. Louis's rioters form BLM and Antifa unless there's no way to avoid it.  Right.  The McCloskeys have deprived no one of their Constitutional Rights.  That's far, far more than BLM and Antifa can say.
By leaving their house and standing in their yard with weapons, the McCloskeys aggravated passerby. They did not start yelling threats at a house with nobody apparent; a handful of them cussed the couple out for pulling guns on people who walked in the street. Your extremist anti-BLM rhetoric - something even ExtremeRepublican does not engage in - threatens a movement that is rightly concerned with racial inequality.

Maybe it doesn’t bother you that the average white family is worth ten times what the average black family is worth. Maybe it doesn’t bother you that blacks, using marijuana at the same rate as whites, are four to five times more likely to be arrested and go to jail for using it. Maybe it doesn’t bother you that the color of your skin could add 10% more time to your sentencing. But it bothers me, and I suspect it bothers most Americans.
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« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2020, 02:11:19 AM »

What if the rioters invaded their property and got in their personal space and made threats?  Do they have to just take that, legally?

What if they forcibly entered the McCloskey's home and police assistance weren't forthcoming?  How long should the mob be allowed to remain inside their home (after, in fact, committing a burglary)?

What if they began to vandalize the McCloskey's home, inside and out?  

What if they began to throw rocks at the McCloskey's house?

Okay but none of that happened
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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2020, 07:39:43 PM »

The prosecution of the McCloskey's is outrageous.

That I would have to lay that out in a reasoned argument is ridiculous. 

What right do people have to defend their homes against threatening mobs when the police aren't forthcoming?  The McCloskey's injured no one, but they let an angry and threatening mob know that they were not going to allow people to take over their house, kill their dog, and carry out the other threats a large mob were making after breaking down a gate to enter their private community.

Kim Gardner is a prosecutor who is prosecuting the McCloskeys, but refuses to prosecute St. Louis's rioters form BLM and Antifa unless there's no way to avoid it.  Right.  The McCloskeys have deprived no one of their Constitutional Rights.  That's far, far more than BLM and Antifa can say.
By leaving their house and standing in their yard with weapons, the McCloskeys aggravated passerby. They did not start yelling threats at a house with nobody apparent; a handful of them cussed the couple out for pulling guns on people who walked in the street. Your extremist anti-BLM rhetoric - something even ExtremeRepublican does not engage in - threatens a movement that is rightly concerned with racial inequality.

Maybe it doesn’t bother you that the average white family is worth ten times what the average black family is worth. Maybe it doesn’t bother you that blacks, using marijuana at the same rate as whites, are four to five times more likely to be arrested and go to jail for using it. Maybe it doesn’t bother you that the color of your skin could add 10% more time to your sentencing. But it bothers me, and I suspect it bothers most Americans.

Those things do bother me.  I've discussed this on other threads.  Lionizing BLM and Antifa as Civil Rights Leaders when they are bulliies and criminals (at a minimum) is not the solution to that.

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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2020, 09:45:30 PM »
« Edited: October 11, 2020, 09:56:20 PM by 7sergi9 »

The prosecution of the McCloskey's is outrageous.

That I would have to lay that out in a reasoned argument is ridiculous.  

What right do people have to defend their homes against threatening mobs when the police aren't forthcoming?  The McCloskey's injured no one, but they let an angry and threatening mob know that they were not going to allow people to take over their house, kill their dog, and carry out the other threats a large mob were making after breaking down a gate to enter their private community.

Kim Gardner is a prosecutor who is prosecuting the McCloskeys, but refuses to prosecute St. Louis's rioters form BLM and Antifa unless there's no way to avoid it.  Right.  The McCloskeys have deprived no one of their Constitutional Rights.  That's far, far more than BLM and Antifa can say.

In addition to not having the basic facts of this particular case correct, more broadly speaking you are simply out of touch with mainstream America on these issues. Society has passed you by.



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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2020, 09:57:11 PM »

The prosecution of the McCloskey's is outrageous.

That I would have to lay that out in a reasoned argument is ridiculous.  

What right do people have to defend their homes against threatening mobs when the police aren't forthcoming?  The McCloskey's injured no one, but they let an angry and threatening mob know that they were not going to allow people to take over their house, kill their dog, and carry out the other threats a large mob were making after breaking down a gate to enter their private community.

Kim Gardner is a prosecutor who is prosecuting the McCloskeys, but refuses to prosecute St. Louis's rioters form BLM and Antifa unless there's no way to avoid it.  Right.  The McCloskeys have deprived no one of their Constitutional Rights.  That's far, far more than BLM and Antifa can say.

In addition to not having the basic facts of this particular case correct, more broadly speaking you are simply out of touch with mainstream America on these issues. Society has passed you by.


"peaceful protest"


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