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« on: October 06, 2020, 06:21:07 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2020, 06:22:02 AM »

Too many undecideds and nothing to compare it to since it's their first FL release of the year. Throw it in the average.
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2020, 06:22:20 AM »

Too many undecideds and nothing to compare it to since it's their first FL release of the year. Throw it in the average.
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2020, 06:27:13 AM »

Eh, this is one of Trump’s best polls, yet he’s only tied with Biden. Florida remains Tilt/Lean D.
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2020, 06:29:19 AM »

Another pollster that seems to have trouble with Hispanics - they have Biden only up 4.
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2020, 06:30:22 AM »

So Biden is up 16 points nationally yet Florida is only a tie? Pretty bad news for Biden.
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2020, 06:31:31 AM »

So Biden is up 16 points nationally yet Florida is only a tie? Pretty bad news for Biden.

It's POSSIBLE that he's not up by sixteen points nationally, Beet. 
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2020, 06:32:19 AM »

So Biden is up 16 points nationally yet Florida is only a tie? Pretty bad news for Biden.

Are you gonna ignore that Biden +6 poll with a far larger sample size from a more reputable pollster?
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2020, 06:36:12 AM »

Biden leads Hispanics by 4, seniors by 3 and undecideds lean Trump
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2020, 06:36:32 AM »

Florida and North Carolina are pure toss ups. Nothing will change this in my mind until and unless they are called for one candidate or the other.
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2020, 06:41:04 AM »

This must be the 1st poll in which Gloria LaRiver has received any support ...
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2020, 06:44:53 AM »

Suffolk for some reason has been a rosier pollster for Trump
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2020, 07:06:47 AM »

LaRivamentum!
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2020, 07:11:09 AM »

Fuller release:

https://www.suffolk.edu/-/media/suffolk/documents/academics/research-at-suffolk/suprc/polls/other-states/2020/10_6_2020_tables_pdftxt.pdf

500 likely voters

Full ballot:

Trump 45%
Biden 45%
Jorgensen 2%
Refused 2%
La Riva 1%
Blankenship 0%  (no voters)
De La Fuente 0% (no voters)
Hawkins 0% (no voters)
Other 0% (no voters)
Undecided 6%

Trump leads by 1 vote in the above sample

Biden v.s. Trump (follow-up questions were only asked to Jorgensen/La Riva voters, but here's the topline results with them incorporated):

Trump 46%
Biden 45%
Refused 2%
Other 0% (but some voters)
Undecided 7%
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2020, 07:14:30 AM »

Trump approval: 48/47 (+1)

Favorabilities:
Trump: 47/48 (-1)
Pence: 49/42 (+7)
Harris: 40/46 (-6)
Biden: 46/45 (+1)
Rubio: 46/35 (+11)
Scott: 38/44 (-6)
DeSantis: 47/40 (+7)
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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2020, 07:15:07 AM »

As I’ve said several times, Florida will go for Trump on 11/3
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« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2020, 07:16:56 AM »

As I’ve said several times, Florida will go for Trump on 11/3

Agreed.  Definitely a state that Trump needs far more than Biden, though. 
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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2020, 07:21:31 AM »

As I’ve said several times, Florida will go for Trump on 11/3

Agreed.  Definitely a state that Trump needs far more than Biden, though. 

I wouldn't say far more, PGQ. Any candidate that loses FL needs to sweep PA-WI-MI.
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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2020, 07:34:25 AM »

The huge red flag in the poll for trump is that once again Biden is winning seniors.
on elections day if that turns out to be true Trump is not winning FLORIDA and Biden margin of victory will end being a lot bigger than what this poll is saying  

despite all of trump gains with Hispanics in this poll he still is not able to take he lead because Biden is still beating him among older voters and that alone is what will cost him this state

it still shocking to me that trump won this group of voters by big margins in 2016 and now he is losing those same voters to Biden in 2020
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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2020, 07:52:49 AM »

Definitely a rosier sample for Trump that his approval in the positives.
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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2020, 07:54:38 AM »

As I’ve said several times, Florida will go for Trump on 11/3

Agreed.  Definitely a state that Trump needs far more than Biden, though. 

I wouldn't say far more, PGQ. Any candidate that loses FL needs to sweep PA-WI-MI.

Do I at least have permission to change my user abbreviation to PGQ? I like it! Tongue
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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2020, 07:57:32 AM »

Another pollster that seems to have trouble with Hispanics - they have Biden only up 4.
Maybe Biden is having problems with Hispanics at least in Florida.
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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2020, 08:04:41 AM »

There seems to be one set of polls that are showing a big Biden bump and another set of polls that show the pre-debate status quo being maintained.  This makes me really wonder about nonresponse bias.  However, the pre-debate status quo is already enough for Biden to win, which should be reassuring for him.
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2020, 08:09:36 AM »
« Edited: October 06, 2020, 08:13:35 AM by Arkansas Yankee »

So Biden is up 16 points nationally yet Florida is only a tie? Pretty bad news for Biden.

Are you gonna ignore that Biden +6 poll with a far larger sample size from a more reputable pollster?
Do you even understand that pollsters are all fallible?  You seem to worship those you like. Do you really believe Biden Is up 16 nationally? Do even know 538 grades Suffolk as an A pollster?
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2020, 08:16:01 AM »

There seems to be one set of polls that are showing a big Biden bump and another set of polls that show the pre-debate status quo being maintained.  This makes me really wonder about nonresponse bias.  However, the pre-debate status quo is already enough for Biden to win, which should be reassuring for him.

Not really. This is really the only poll showing the race about where it was. Every other poll has shown at least somewhat of an increase.

This poll has Pence at a +7 approval rating. It's a little wonky
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