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« on: October 03, 2020, 09:15:58 PM »

Lyon Gardiner Tyler, Jr., the grandson of 19th century US president John Tyler, died last week at age 95.

His father, Lyon Gardiner Tyler, was born in 1853 to 63 year-old John Tyler and his second wife Julia Gardiner.

This leaves one surviving Tyler grandchild—Lyon's younger brother Harrison Ruffin Tyler, who is 92.
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2020, 09:19:01 PM »

Harrison needs to father a child soon so we can be talking about John Tyler's living great-grandson in 2110.
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2020, 09:21:15 PM »

Harrison needs to father a child soon so we can be talking about John Tyler's living great-grandson in 2110.

While I fully support this proposal, I don't know if there's enough viagra in the world to make this possible
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2020, 09:28:46 PM »

I watched a CBS Sunday Morning report about Tyler's grandsons a month or so ago. This is a fascinating link to history that has now been snapped. Hopefully he rests in peace.
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2020, 01:00:10 AM »

Taft might be the only other President before Hoover with a living grandchild.
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2020, 06:44:52 AM »

I discovered the fascinating story of the Tyler family some months ago thanks to a friend of mine.
He didn't know about Lyon Jr. though, only about Harrison, weirdly.
Rest In Peace son of circumstance.
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2020, 06:49:55 AM »

Taft might be the only other President before Hoover with a living grandchild.

I think only great grandchildren.
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2020, 07:26:29 AM »

He seems like a Massive FF.

John Tyler, "His Accidency", is an underrated President in that he established, once and for all, the practice of the VP succeeding the President upon death of the President and being fully President in his own right.  Whatever else one may thing of Tyler, this is an incredibly important contribution to the Republic that is often overlooked.  He was like Washington in this regard in that he followed a path for which there was no precedent, no prior example.
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2020, 07:29:28 AM »

Taft might be the only other President before Hoover with a living grandchild.

I think only great grandchildren.
From Wikipedia, Taft has one living grandchild, former Assistant AG Peter Taft III (born 1936, and preliminary research seems to indicate he hasn't died yet).
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2020, 07:31:54 AM »

1936 mathematically adds up to an age that it is reasonable to assume someone is still alive.
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2020, 03:46:28 PM »

Taft might be the only other President before Hoover with a living grandchild.
Alice Roosevelt adopted her granddaughter, who is ~73(?) today. So Theodore has a living adoptive granddaughter.
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2020, 03:56:32 PM »

He lived in my town too!  May he rest in peace!!
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2020, 03:59:33 PM »

Taft might be the only other President before Hoover with a living grandchild.

I think only great grandchildren.
From Wikipedia, Taft has one living grandchild, former Assistant AG Peter Taft III (born 1936, and preliminary research seems to indicate he hasn't died yet).

Is former Ohio governor Bob Taft the son or grandson of the president?
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2020, 04:00:44 PM »

Taft might be the only other President before Hoover with a living grandchild.
Alice Roosevelt adopted her granddaughter, who is ~73(?) today. So Theodore has a living adoptive granddaughter.

That shouldn't count, but I noticed that Harding's illegitimate daughter likely has some living children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Ann_Blaesing
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2020, 04:26:18 PM »

One reason that American history is so cool is that the U.S. is a new enough country that an especially long-lived person's life weaves through amazingly distinct eras of our national development.  The entirety of American history can be conceptualized as three, not-even-that-exceptionally-long (~80 year) human lifetimes. 

As a personal anecdote, I have a living great grand-aunt (aged 96) who remembers meeting and knowing living Civil War veterans as a child in Great Depression-era Mississippi.  That someone alive in 2020 has a personal link to an era that seems so anachronistic to us feels pretty amazing.  For a piece of trivia you can share, try this one on for size: the life of Harriet Tubman overlaps with that of Thomas Jefferson and Ronald Reagan.  Human longevity can put the dynamism of the American Experiment on an amazingly personal scale.
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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2020, 04:39:36 PM »

Taft might be the only other President before Hoover with a living grandchild.

I think only great grandchildren.
From Wikipedia, Taft has one living grandchild, former Assistant AG Peter Taft III (born 1936, and preliminary research seems to indicate he hasn't died yet).

Is former Ohio governor Bob Taft the son or grandson of the president?

Great-grandson via two other Robert Tafts (the famous midcentury conservative and then another guy who was a congresscritter in the 60s and 70s).
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2020, 05:44:24 PM »

One reason that American history is so cool is that the U.S. is a new enough country that an especially long-lived person's life weaves through amazingly distinct eras of our national development.  The entirety of American history can be conceptualized as three, not-even-that-exceptionally-long (~80 year) human lifetimes. 

As a personal anecdote, I have a living great grand-aunt (aged 96) who remembers meeting and knowing living Civil War veterans as a child in Great Depression-era Mississippi.  That someone alive in 2020 has a personal link to an era that seems so anachronistic to us feels pretty amazing.  For a piece of trivia you can share, try this one on for size: the life of Harriet Tubman overlaps with that of Thomas Jefferson and Ronald Reagan.  Human longevity can put the dynamism of the American Experiment on an amazingly personal scale.

If people have kids late in life and they live a long time, this sort of thing happens. It's not a distinctly American thing.

One of my grandfathers was born in the Ottoman Empire while Queen Victoria was still on the throne and China was still ruled by the Qing Dynasty.
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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2020, 12:21:57 AM »
« Edited: October 06, 2020, 12:37:45 AM by Badger »

I looked it up and President Tyler fathered Lyon Tyler senior when he was 63, Then Lyon senior fathered the recently-departed lyon Jr when he was 72, and his younger living brother when he was 75.
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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2020, 04:27:59 PM »

The only President (yet) to die a traitor to his country.
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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2020, 04:57:58 PM »

If people have kids late in life and they live a long time, this sort of thing happens. It's not a distinctly American thing.

One of my grandfathers was born in the Ottoman Empire while Queen Victoria was still on the throne and China was still ruled by the Qing Dynasty.
This man’s grandfather was born a hundred years before yours. That’s not normal.
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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2020, 12:18:22 PM »

If people have kids late in life and they live a long time, this sort of thing happens. It's not a distinctly American thing.

One of my grandfathers was born in the Ottoman Empire while Queen Victoria was still on the throne and China was still ruled by the Qing Dynasty.
This man’s grandfather was born a hundred years before yours. That’s not normal.

Yeah, see my post above. John Tyler fathered his youngest child when he was about 70, and his son fathered his youngest child when he was 75.

I desperately seek not to be judgmental about sexual relations and procreation decisions made by consenting adults, but that's got some serious creepy Vibes to it.
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« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2020, 01:31:41 PM »

One reason that American history is so cool is that the U.S. is a new enough country that an especially long-lived person's life weaves through amazingly distinct eras of our national development.  The entirety of American history can be conceptualized as three, not-even-that-exceptionally-long (~80 year) human lifetimes. 

As a personal anecdote, I have a living great grand-aunt (aged 96) who remembers meeting and knowing living Civil War veterans as a child in Great Depression-era Mississippi.  That someone alive in 2020 has a personal link to an era that seems so anachronistic to us feels pretty amazing.  For a piece of trivia you can share, try this one on for size: the life of Harriet Tubman overlaps with that of Thomas Jefferson and Ronald Reagan.  Human longevity can put the dynamism of the American Experiment on an amazingly personal scale.

Fascinating and thought-provoking post. 

I was watching a short clip of HBO's John Adams, and one comment alleged that JQA was the only person to meet both Benjamin Franklin (as a boy in France in the 1780s) and Abraham Lincoln in the 1840s, shortly before his death.

If people have kids late in life and they live a long time, this sort of thing happens. It's not a distinctly American thing.

One of my grandfathers was born in the Ottoman Empire while Queen Victoria was still on the throne and China was still ruled by the Qing Dynasty.
This man’s grandfather was born a hundred years before yours. That’s not normal.

Yeah, see my post above. John Tyler fathered his youngest child when he was about 70, and his son fathered his youngest child when he was 75.

I desperately seek not to be judgmental about sexual relations and procreation decisions made by consenting adults, but that's got some serious creepy Vibes to it.

It must be somewhat odd for Barron, that when he graduates from college his dad will be 82-84.
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« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2020, 05:34:43 PM »

One reason that American history is so cool is that the U.S. is a new enough country that an especially long-lived person's life weaves through amazingly distinct eras of our national development.  The entirety of American history can be conceptualized as three, not-even-that-exceptionally-long (~80 year) human lifetimes. 

As a personal anecdote, I have a living great grand-aunt (aged 96) who remembers meeting and knowing living Civil War veterans as a child in Great Depression-era Mississippi.  That someone alive in 2020 has a personal link to an era that seems so anachronistic to us feels pretty amazing.  For a piece of trivia you can share, try this one on for size: the life of Harriet Tubman overlaps with that of Thomas Jefferson and Ronald Reagan.  Human longevity can put the dynamism of the American Experiment on an amazingly personal scale.

Fascinating and thought-provoking post. 

I was watching a short clip of HBO's John Adams, and one comment alleged that JQA was the only person to meet both Benjamin Franklin (as a boy in France in the 1780s) and Abraham Lincoln in the 1840s, shortly before his death.

If people have kids late in life and they live a long time, this sort of thing happens. It's not a distinctly American thing.

One of my grandfathers was born in the Ottoman Empire while Queen Victoria was still on the throne and China was still ruled by the Qing Dynasty.
This man’s grandfather was born a hundred years before yours. That’s not normal.

Yeah, see my post above. John Tyler fathered his youngest child when he was about 70, and his son fathered his youngest child when he was 75.

I desperately seek not to be judgmental about sexual relations and procreation decisions made by consenting adults, but that's got some serious creepy Vibes to it.

It must be somewhat odd for Barron, that when he graduates from college his dad will be 82-84.

I was just shy of, and just over, 40 years old respectively when my two boys were born. That's considered old for most of our peers, some of whom have grandkids while we have kids in late elementary school. So again, I'm reluctant comment.

But yeah, that's just kind of weird.
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