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Terry the Fat Shark
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« on: October 02, 2020, 12:57:46 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2020, 01:01:02 PM »
Trump approval: 44/54 (-10)
Whitmer approval: 50/44 (+6)

Biden fav: 46/45 (+1)

Who won the debate?: Biden 40-27- 32 (don’t believe either won)
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2020, 01:02:01 PM »
Yep, points to a narrow Biden lead in reality. I've always thought Biden would win by like 3 or 4 when it came down to it and don't see any reason to think otherwise now. James will lose by like 1 imo.
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2020, 01:02:23 PM »
Another poll showing Trump only getting people who approve of him, news at 11.
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2020, 01:02:57 PM »
« Edited: October 02, 2020, 01:07:35 PM by Gass3268 »
Quote from: UncleSam on October 02, 2020, 01:02:01 PM
Yep, points to a narrow Biden lead in reality. I've always thought Biden would win by like 3 or 4 when it came down to it and don't see any reason to think otherwise now. James will lose by like 1 imo.

The average in Michigan before this poll was Biden +7.2. Biden +6, with a 2 point improvement on their last poll, is not a narrowing. Also James is losing by more than Trump in this poll, so...
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2020, 01:03:43 PM »
For Progress Michigan
Changes with August 28-29 poll

Biden 50% (+2)
Trump 44% (n/c)
Jorgensen 2% (-1)
Hawkins 1% (n/c)
Not sure 3% (n/c)
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2020, 01:03:57 PM »
Quote from: UncleSam on October 02, 2020, 01:02:01 PM
Yep, points to a narrow Biden lead in reality. I've always thought Biden would win by like 3 or 4 when it came down to it and don't see any reason to think otherwise now. James will lose by like 1 imo.

The reason to think otherwise might be that the polling average is about twice that. Just something to think about.

Also there’s the fact that Biden’s already at 50 and most undecideds are leaning towards him. So just assuming Trump will pick up a few extra points but not Biden is dumb.
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2020, 01:05:17 PM »
Surprised PPP released this.  Perhaps they are trying to discourage Dem complacency?
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2020, 01:06:02 PM »
Quote from: TiltsAreUnderrated on October 02, 2020, 01:03:43 PM
For Progress Michigan
Changes with August 28-29 poll

Biden 50% (+2)
Trump 44% (n/c)
Jorgensen 2% (-1)
Hawkins 1% (n/c)
Not sure 3% (n/c)

So it's a Biden improvement over the last PPP poll of Michigan?!
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2020, 01:06:25 PM »
Quote from: Skill and Chance on October 02, 2020, 01:05:17 PM
Surprised PPP released this.  Perhaps they are trying to discourage Dem complacency?

...This is a 6 point Biden lead at 50 in a key state that’s 2 points improved over their previous poll.
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2020, 01:08:37 PM »
Quote from: Skill and Chance on October 02, 2020, 01:05:17 PM
Surprised PPP released this.  Perhaps they are trying to discourage Dem complacency?

The polling average in Michigan before this poll was 7.2. There is nothing outlierish about this poll.
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2020, 01:22:21 PM »
If PPP shows Biden by 6, that means it's really about a 2-point race.
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2020, 01:25:02 PM »
Quote from: TC 25 on October 02, 2020, 01:22:21 PM
If PPP shows Biden by 6, that means it's really about a 2-point race.

Yeah not really, they are a B pollster with a slight (D+0.3) bias.
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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2020, 01:27:41 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2020, 01:51:18 PM »
They underestimated both candidates in 2016 and Biden's at 50. Going on their polling error, Trump's best case scenario here is Biden winning 51-46.
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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2020, 02:17:34 PM »
Lol Michigan was 2 points to the right of the nation (it will trend more GOP then last time).

If Biden is up by 6 likely it's 9-10 nationally.

Realistically I expect Michigan to be 2-3ish Biden (which will be inline with a national 6 to 8% win). Won't vote any different than Arizona (+2 Biden).
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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2020, 02:30:20 PM »
Quote from: TheLaRocca on October 02, 2020, 02:17:34 PM
Lol Michigan was 2 points to the right of the nation (it will trend more GOP then last time).

If Biden is up by 6 likely it's 9-10 nationally.

Realistically I expect Michigan to be 2-3ish Biden (which will be inline with a national 6 to 8% win). Won't vote any different than Arizona (+2 Biden).

I strongly doubt Michigan will trend more right or just be 2-3 Biden in the end.
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2020, 11:57:40 PM »
New Poll: Michigan President by Public Policy Polling on 2020-10-01

Summary: D: 50%, R: 44%, U: 3%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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